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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/8/2018 8:57 pm
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Thanks Eric  
old man : 2/8/2018 9:01 pm : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/8/2018 9:01 pm : link
More commercials than an NFL game. I didn't think that was possible.
Love the winter games.  
Crispino : 2/8/2018 9:12 pm : link
Great break from the tedium of NBA highlights that never seem to end. Somehow, people still get excited about 6’8” guys dunking.

Downhill ski race, ski jumping, and everybody’s trendy passion, curling. It’s great to see athletes excel the one time every four years that the world pays attention.
Opening ceremonies tonight?  
Matt M. : 2/8/2018 9:15 pm : link
Or first events? I thought they started tomorrow.
Live curling  
Pete in MD : 2/8/2018 9:20 pm : link
tonight on NBCSN Network.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 9:34 pm : link
Yawn.

(Yes. I'm posting on this thread even though I don't care.)
RE: Opening ceremonies tonight?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/8/2018 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13827225 Matt M. said:
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Or first events? I thought they started tomorrow.


Opening ceremonies tomorrow.
Ah, the Olympics.  
Mr. Bungle : 2/8/2018 9:48 pm : link
When women watch sports.
have they always  
UESBLUE : 2/8/2018 9:56 pm : link
begun events before the opening ceremonies?
Yes.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 2/8/2018 11:12 pm : link
Just never televised. Usually shown via tape delay after opening ceremonies.
Mens ice skating holy crap  
giant24 : 2/9/2018 12:28 am : link
almost everyone fell on their jumps. As a dad of kids about that age I feel horrible for them, all that practicing and competing and then nerves get the best of them.
A joke that many of the cheating  
Les in TO : 2/9/2018 6:11 am : link
Russian athletes fromSochi get to participate because of a ridiculous legal ruling.
I thought the majority..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 8:15 am : link
of the Russian athletes lost their appeal yesterday to compete.

The ones competing weren't accused of cheating I didn't think.
By the way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 8:16 am : link
for those in the crowd who got excited over it last time, the Tongan flag bearer is oiled and ready to go.....
I'm looking forward to Women's Hockey..  
BamaBlue : 2/9/2018 8:29 am : link
USA vs. Canada. That is always intense. I guess I'm an outlier, because I cannot stand curling. In order to enjoy curling, there would have to be a lot of beer consumption for me and the participants. A lot of beer...
what's the big to do about our flag bearer?  
gtt350 : 2/9/2018 9:21 am : link
there was a coin flip to break a tie vote and the loser is freaking out.
RE: I thought the majority..  
Les in TO : 2/9/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 13827338 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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of the Russian athletes lost their appeal yesterday to compete.

The ones competing weren't accused of cheating I didn't think.
true, 28 Russians lost their appeal yesterday. the 169 Russian athletes competing under a neutral flag (not much off their usual winter Olympics numbers) while supposedly cleared after detailed checks, are the products of a dirty system that was proven by WADA and the IOC to implement widespread doping of its athletes and for which Russia still denies it is responsible, despite the damning evidence of holes in the wall of doping testing rules and urine bottle swap outs by Russian security officials. it's hard to believe that these athletes are clean until Russia owns up to its mistakes and takes meaningful steps to stop cheating. the russians are not alone - there are a number of scandanavian athletes engaged in blood doping - but not at a government-condoned, systemic level.
Considering how deep and pervasive the mind  
idiotsavant : 2/9/2018 10:38 am : link
Control is in the North. And how impoverished it is and barren, even probably for elite athletes...

The quizzicle looks on faces of the minder/cheer squad (Reuters pictures maybe, or was it BBC) are visual gold:


"This doesn't fit our narrative"

"what's with all the happy faces and shiny techmology?"

"We will probably be shot just for seeing this stuff"

"Don't let Betty go pee alone, she might make a run for it"
RE: Considering how deep and pervasive the mind  
Les in TO : 2/9/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13827485 idiotsavant said:
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Control is in the North. And how impoverished it is and barren, even probably for elite athletes...

The quizzicle looks on faces of the minder/cheer squad (Reuters pictures maybe, or was it BBC) are visual gold:


"This doesn't fit our narrative"

"what's with all the happy faces and shiny techmology?"

"We will probably be shot just for seeing this stuff"

"Don't let Betty go pee alone, she might make a run for it"
yeah north korea and south korea are neighbours, but they may as well be from different planets or decades. in the Olympic village this year, you can pay for goods with wearable devices like gloves, pins and stickers that have a chip and antenna embedded. in NK you are probably only paying with cash, government ID cards or bartering. the NK representatives are probably feeling like Brendan fraser's character in the movie blast from the past.
RE: have they always  
njm : 2/9/2018 10:53 am : link
In comment 13827253 UESBLUE said:
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begun events before the opening ceremonies?


Because it takes 2 1/2 weeks to get the 10 curling matches completed.
I'll admit I don't follow the Olympics or even care much  
Bill L : 2/9/2018 11:45 am : link
so I only know what I see in the headlines...

So...is Shani Davis a dick or what?
RE: Ah, the Olympics.  
jpennyva : 2/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13827246 Mr. Bungle said:
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When women watch sports.


I take exception to that. I'd rather watch sports than most of the stuff on TV, with perhaps the exception of Netflix originals (especially the Marvel programs).
I don't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 2:28 pm : link
know, but when you make veiled claims of racism regarding a decision that was made with a "dishonorable coin flip" and then makes reference to Black History Month, he doesn't come off too well.

Sounds like he thinks he should've been the flag bearer because he's black.
He's now skipping the Opening Ceremonies altogether  
Bill L : 2/9/2018 2:36 pm : link
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RE: RE: I thought the majority..  
trueblueinpw : 2/9/2018 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13827408 Les in TO said:
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In comment 13827338 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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of the Russian athletes lost their appeal yesterday to compete.

The ones competing weren't accused of cheating I didn't think.

true, 28 Russians lost their appeal yesterday. the 169 Russian athletes competing under a neutral flag (not much off their usual winter Olympics numbers) while supposedly cleared after detailed checks, are the products of a dirty system that was proven by WADA and the IOC to implement widespread doping of its athletes and for which Russia still denies it is responsible, despite the damning evidence of holes in the wall of doping testing rules and urine bottle swap outs by Russian security officials. it's hard to believe that these athletes are clean until Russia owns up to its mistakes and takes meaningful steps to stop cheating. the russians are not alone - there are a number of scandanavian athletes engaged in blood doping - but not at a government-condoned, systemic level.


Russia is a gangster state. I’m glad to see their flag isn’t allowed. It’s too bad though, because the athletes are essentially forced to cheat or they won’t be allowed to participate in the Russian sports systems. It’s a shame, really it is. Like I said, it’s a lawless state run by thugs and gangsters.
RE: I don't..  
BigBlue2112 : 2/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13827789 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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know, but when you make veiled claims of racism regarding a decision that was made with a "dishonorable coin flip" and then makes reference to Black History Month, he doesn't come off too well.

Sounds like he thinks he should've been the flag bearer because he's black.


This.
I just learned that it was decided by  
Beezer : 2/9/2018 4:17 pm : link
a coin toss.

How can that be real? lolol

A. Seems a bit ridiculous. Someone make a call, based on actual rationale, and go with it. Take your lumps, but own the decision.

2. A fucking coin toss? bahahahahahahahaha
there was a vote  
Csonka : 2/9/2018 4:22 pm : link
came to a 4-4 tie.
they predetermined that in the event of a tie, it would go to a coin toss.
Davis has won two gold medals  
shyster : 2/9/2018 4:29 pm : link
and made four Olympic teams.

Hamlin has won one bronze medal and made four Olympic teams.

Davis is 35; his medal days are behind him and this is, realistically, his last team.

Hamlin is 31.

If one looks at the criteria that have governed previous selections, Davis should have gotten the nod, and he knows that.

The participants in the initial tie vote that led to the ooin toss are the captains of each discipline making up the USA squad. Winter sports being what they are, this means mostly white people.

And that's where the reference to Black History Month comes in.
RE: I just learned that it was decided by  
Boy Cord : 2/9/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13827904 Beezer said:
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a coin toss.

How can that be real? lolol

A. Seems a bit ridiculous. Someone make a call, based on actual rationale, and go with it. Take your lumps, but own the decision.

2. A fucking coin toss? bahahahahahahahaha


A state house seat in VA came down to a fucking coin toss as well. Now that is a travesty.
Can someone help me with the Olympics schedule?  
Boy Cord : 2/9/2018 4:34 pm : link
JFC, I go to nbcolympics.com of all places and I can't figure this out for shit. One place I read there will be speed skating tonight, but the interactive schedule says no events on tap today.

They spend billions on the Olympics but make viewing so damn confusing.
It is as ridiculous..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 4:35 pm : link
as if Hamlin lost and claimed sexism:

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The participants in the initial tie vote that led to the ooin toss are the captains of each discipline making up the USA squad. Winter sports being what they are, this means mostly white people.

And that's where the reference to Black History Month comes in.


"Team USA dishonorably tossed a coin to decide it next flag bearer. No problem, I'll wait until 2022. #MeToo"
RE: Can someone help me with the Olympics schedule?  
Boy Cord : 2/9/2018 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13827926 Boy Cord said:
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JFC, I go to nbcolympics.com of all places and I can't figure this out for shit. One place I read there will be speed skating tonight, but the interactive schedule says no events on tap today.

They spend billions on the Olympics but make viewing so damn confusing.


Okay. This looks to be the best landing spot for the TV schedule on their site.
TV Schedule - ( New Window )
RE: It is as ridiculous..  
shyster : 2/9/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13827929 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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as if Hamlin lost and claimed sexism:

"Team USA dishonorably tossed a coin to decide it next flag bearer. No problem, I'll wait until 2022. #MeToo"


I don't expect it to change your mind but linked is a take that made it into your hometown paper. It's by a national AP writer.

Davis has been in the sport a long time and has not always made friends. The line between a personal dislike that may influence a vote and racial animus is not easy to draw but dismissing the latter is not what I'd call realistic.
Observer - ( New Window )
What is there...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 5:02 pm : link
to dismiss??

There was a split vote of the board of 8 people. It isn't like he wasn't even considered or they voted against him.

They flipped a frigging coin to decide things.

But that's racist? This country truly is losing its mind at times.
RE: RE: It is as ridiculous..  
njm : 2/9/2018 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13827947 shyster said:
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In comment 13827929 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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as if Hamlin lost and claimed sexism:

"Team USA dishonorably tossed a coin to decide it next flag bearer. No problem, I'll wait until 2022. #MeToo"



I don't expect it to change your mind but linked is a take that made it into your hometown paper. It's by a national AP writer.

Davis has been in the sport a long time and has not always made friends. The line between a personal dislike that may influence a vote and racial animus is not easy to draw but dismissing the latter is not what I'd call realistic. Observer - ( New Window )


The unspoken message in "Cool Runnings" was that the Winter Olympics were a place where black people weren't supposed be? Pardon me while I consider that article a joke.
The article..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 5:26 pm : link
also contains this melodramatic drivel:

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For them, it was a familiar scenario: Despite being exceptional in a field dominated by whites, he was bypassed for a job he deserved. What's more, when he pointed that out, he was shouted down as an ungrateful distraction.


How was being a flag bearer a job he "deserved"? If we are going just by exceptional performances, there are other winter Olympic athletes more decorated.

Frankly carrying the flag isn't a job to be deserved, it is an honor, and his reaction is one that isn't exactly helping that cause.

He has basically accused the decision makers to have done it out of racial considerations., and his reaction is that he was excluded because he's black, then he follows it up by not going to the ceremony at all.

Honor my ass.
My first thought would be that coins aren’t racist  
Bill L : 2/9/2018 5:44 pm : link
But then I thought, there’s only white people on them. OTOH, one of the coins is copper-colored...

Look, I don’t know these things well enough to know if a vote and coin toss is out of ordinary. I do know that the rules were known in advance. I also figure that he had a 50% chance at the end.

I do think that he’s showing poor sportsmanship which, considering the venue, is ironic. And pulling out of the ceremonies altogether is essentially a temper tantrum.

God help him if he loses. Maybe we have an international incident in the offing ?
RE: Can someone help me with the Olympics schedule?  
NYerInMA : 2/9/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13827926 Boy Cord said:
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JFC, I go to nbcolympics.com of all places and I can't figure this out for shit. One place I read there will be speed skating tonight, but the interactive schedule says no events on tap today.

They spend billions on the Olympics but make viewing so damn confusing.


It's confusing because there's a TV schedule and an online streaming schedule. The linked page will give you your TV listings. The only event on TV tonight is the (tape delayed) Opening Ceremonies on NBC at 8pm ET.
TV listings - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: It is as ridiculous..  
Bill L : 2/9/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13827971 njm said:
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In comment 13827947 shyster said:


Quote:


In comment 13827929 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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as if Hamlin lost and claimed sexism:

"Team USA dishonorably tossed a coin to decide it next flag bearer. No problem, I'll wait until 2022. #MeToo"



I don't expect it to change your mind but linked is a take that made it into your hometown paper. It's by a national AP writer.

Davis has been in the sport a long time and has not always made friends. The line between a personal dislike that may influence a vote and racial animus is not easy to draw but dismissing the latter is not what I'd call realistic. Observer - ( New Window )



The unspoken message in "Cool Runnings" was that the Winter Olympics were a place where black people weren't supposed be? Pardon me while I consider that article a joke.
i always thought the joke was more the juxtaposotion of a winter sport with a a Caribbean tropical beach paradise?
Whereas  
NYerInMA : 2/9/2018 5:51 pm : link
If you go to this link, you'll see the online streaming schedule.
Stream schedule - ( New Window )
The Washington Post  
jpennyva : 2/9/2018 5:59 pm : link
Published a special section on the Olympics this past Wednesday and one of the things I liked about it was that it broke all the sports down and gave specific information on each sport including when the sport is scheduled to be broadcast and on which network. There seems to be a similar electronic version available from the link below about midway down the page.
Washington Post Olympics Info - ( New Window )
How good is  
XBRONX : 2/9/2018 6:00 pm : link
the Jamaican bobsled team?
RE: How good is  
JINTin Adirondacks : 2/9/2018 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13827993 XBRONX said:
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the Jamaican bobsled team?

Slightly better than the movie.
One team walking in as Korea. Pretty cool.  
Beezer : 2/10/2018 2:46 am : link
Wishing the VP would have stood, at least for diplomacy.
RE: By the way..  
Matt M. : 2/10/2018 7:46 am : link
In comment 13827340 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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for those in the crowd who got excited over it last time, the Tongan flag bearer is oiled and ready to go.....
So, he competed in the summer and winter?
I didn't realize before yesterday there was to be a unified Korea  
Matt M. : 2/10/2018 7:53 am : link
Why?
RE: I didn't realize before yesterday there was to be a unified Korea  
BamaBlue : 2/10/2018 8:44 am : link
In comment 13828185 Matt M. said:
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Why?


Reunification of Korea is a goal for both Koreas. The problem is that the conditions for reunification are as diverse as the two countries. This is a big step in showing unity of the Korean people... the political and economic obstacles will always be there.
Why are so  
Pete in MD : 2/10/2018 1:21 pm : link
many Koreans named "Kim?" I understand that their family name comes first but why so many "Kims?" Does it refer to a profession like "Smith" in the US or a certain city or region? There are also a lot of people with "Park" in their name but not as many as "Kim." This is a serious question.
Pete here's your answer  
Watson : 2/10/2018 4:20 pm : link
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Kim, Park And Lee: Why Do Koreans Have So Few Surnames? - ( New Window )
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