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Ken Rosenthal & #8207;Verified account @Ken_Rosenthal 10m10 minutes ago Again: Darvish to #Cubs, six years, $126M, pending physical, sources tell The Athletic. Chance to get to $150M range through incentives. 4m4 minutes ago Sources: Chances of Darvish getting to $150M with #Cubs quite slim; would need to win multiple Cy Young awards. His guarantee is $126M over six years, making contract the longest and richest free-agent deal of off-season. |
He can give you 160 solid innings as a starter which should be fine.
35 y.o. Lester, 5/6-innings-on-a-good-day Darvish,then what?
They have any kids in their pitching pipeline?
Signing just seems odd for them.
How does Cashman strong arm the Birds?
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is holding his chips and salary availability to strong arm Baltimore to trade him Machado.
How does Cashman strong arm the Birds?
--Machado is out of contract after this year
--Machado wants to go to the Yankees, so he has little trade value to any other team unless that team rents him for 2 months
--Baltimore gets virtually nothing for him if Machado leaves in FA
The only reason Machado isn't already a Yankee is because the Angelos family, who owns the Orioles, detests the Yanks
Baltimore had a Machado trade set up with the White Sox but Machado torpedoed it by saying he would sign with the Yankees in free agency. The White Sox were only making that trade with the guarantee of signing Machado to a long-term deal. The White Sox are also at the start of a multi-year rebuild so Machado did not want to spend 2, possibly 3 more years of his prime on a team that didn't have a chance to win
I don't think old is the right word. Kris Bryant, Kyle Schwarber, Albert Almora, Ian Happ, Addison Russell, Javier Baez, and Willson Contreras are all 26 or younger. Anthony Rizzo, Kyle Hendricks, Tyler Chatwood, and Mike Montgomery are 28, Quintana is 29.
Cubs fans should be excited. Their young offensive core is the best in baseball. When the time comes to extend Bryant and co. they will have the contracts of Lester and Zobrist off the books.
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They’ve gotten old quick. Four big names on the decline at nearly $90mm in Darvish, Lester, Zobrist and Heyward. Couple guys on great contracts still, but with payroll where it is now and not the same farm as a few years ago, they really have little room for error moving forward.
I don't think old is the right word. Kris Bryant, Kyle Schwarber, Albert Almora, Ian Happ, Addison Russell, Javier Baez, and Willson Contreras are all 26 or younger. Anthony Rizzo, Kyle Hendricks, Tyler Chatwood, and Mike Montgomery are 28, Quintana is 29.
Lots of smoke around one of Baez/Russell/Happ getting traded at some point. Zobrist is on year 3 of four-year deal, so he may get traded/retire. There's flexibility to focus on Bryant, Contreras and whoever they deem priority.
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Lots of smoke around one of Baez/Russell/Happ getting traded at some point. Zobrist is on year 3 of four-year deal, so he may get traded/retire. There's flexibility to focus on Bryant, Contreras and whoever they deem priority.
The Braves are a perfect match if they are looking to deal Happ. The Braves need a LF as they don't have any top prospects ready besides Acuna who will play in RF. The Braves have the deepest pool of pitching prospects which is something that the Cubs are in dire need for. I am not sure what the asking price for Happ would be.
I don't think the Yankees should trade for Machado or sign him next year either. Not a Yankees fan but they need to focus on adding starting pitchers. Their offense is going to be among the best in baseball again. They have two excellent in house options for 3B in Torres and Andujar. It doesn't make sense to me to spend $25-35 million per season on Machado when they have cheap young in house options.
As for the Machado talk, ideally the Yankees can put off any decisions until the trade deadline. By then they will have more data on Andujar (either at the major league or triple-A level) to process and the Orioles will have already paid half of his $16M salary.
Too bad for Cubs
But like your predicted, the Dodgers won the World Series so he was worth it right?! 😂😂😂
I don’t understand why people post this crap. Have you been living under a rock? Yankee fans have been almost in unison that they had no interest in signing Darvish to a monster contract. A short deal, maybe. I think most Yankee fans have seen the effect of ridiculous long term deals for players in their 30’s.
But please. Feel free to contue making shit up. It’s never stopped you before.
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No part of trading for Machado, not for a second. Can we see what Andujar is before we spend a nickel on Machado. Can't have two rookies break into the infield is a bunch of pure shit. Save the money, send the rookies out there and see what we have. Spoiled brat fans that want to spend all that money on a guy and trade for him and give up prospects, then when he sucks after a few years they scream about the player, like we have with Ellsbury, but by now nobody wanted to sign him. Bullshit too. If Andujar fails this season and you can get Machado at a reasonable price, then maybe you pull the trigger.
I don't think the Yankees should trade for Machado or sign him next year either. Not a Yankees fan but they need to focus on adding starting pitchers. Their offense is going to be among the best in baseball again. They have two excellent in house options for 3B in Torres and Andujar. It doesn't make sense to me to spend $25-35 million per season on Machado when they have cheap young in house options.
I keep pointing this out, but it doesn't seem to be getting through.
MACHADO IS NO LONGER A 3B. HE IS NOW THE O's STARTING SS.
He has been clear for a while now that while he will play 3B, his preference has always been SS. He will almost certainly demand that the team which signs him in FA sign him as a SS- and will almost certainly demand an opt-out provision early in the deal in case a team doesn't follow through on the promise to play him at SS.
Something else people forget. When Machado hits FA, he will be 26 years old- and won't turn 27 until early July in 2019. In terms of the Yanks, that will basically make him the same age as Sahncez. Bird and Judge.
In other words, if the Yanks WERE to sign him (if he hits FA, every team can sign him), he would not be some "old man" they are bringing in- he would essentially be the same age as their current core. That would allow the core to be able to stay together for a VERY long prime period- perhaps 5-6 years before decline sets in.
In addition, if the Yanks sign him as a SS, we need to remember that for all Didi has done for the Yanks, he will be a FA after 2019, he is almost 30, and is older than their core. You don't pay players for PAST performance, you pay them for what you expect going forward.
If the Yanks chose to give Didi an extension of more than 3 years, the contract would likely be a bust by year 4. With Machado, he likely does not begin his decline until year 6, maybe 7 of the deal. Which is the better choice?
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signed him. deal would have been praised.
I don’t understand why people post this crap. Have you been living under a rock? Yankee fans have been almost in unison that they had no interest in signing Darvish to a monster contract. A short deal, maybe. I think most Yankee fans have seen the effect of ridiculous long term deals for players in their 30’s.
But please. Feel free to contue making shit up. It’s never stopped you before.
The Yanks basically changed their FA model several years ago, but the average non-Yankee baseball fan hasn't noticed yet. If the Yanks sign an older player, it is on a one or two year deal now. Look at Holliday last year. CC this year.
Sure, the Yanks took on Stanton's monster deal in a trade- but also sent a bad contract out to balance some of it. If Stanton does not opt out after 2020, I suspect that the Yanks will try and trade him.
People might not know this, but if Chapman and Stanton exercise their opt outs, there is a chance that the Yanks will not have a long term contract for anyone by 2020.
You don't have to pay Judge, Sanchez, Bird, Gray, Severino eventually?
It depends on what Didi will be asking, and I don't think Torres profiles best as a SS, but Machado is a luxury we can't afford.
Do all the fuzzy math you want, but we don't need a 25M+ superstar at every position.
You don't have to pay Judge, Sanchez, Bird, Gray, Severino eventually?
It depends on what Didi will be asking, and I don't think Torres profiles best as a SS, but Machado is a luxury we can't afford.
Do all the fuzzy math you want, but we don't need a 25M+ superstar at every position.
You beat this drum over and over again. Continuously ignoring the fact that the Yankees DO NOT have anywhere close to $25 Million players at every position. Stanton and Tanaka are the only two. It is obvious that you chose the wrong team to root for if you’re looking for a team that doesn’t spend big money if the opportunity presents itself.
I’m not saying that I’d want them to put that kind of money into Machado, but please stop with the incessant claims that adding Machado would give them $25 million players at every position. It’s not even close.
You don't have to pay Judge, Sanchez, Bird, Gray, Severino eventually?
It depends on what Didi will be asking, and I don't think Torres profiles best as a SS, but Machado is a luxury we can't afford.
Do all the fuzzy math you want, but we don't need a 25M+ superstar at every position.
I think that the reason that the Yanks have not only built, but continue to bring in high end talent is that you can only afford so many superstars- and in 5-6 years, the Yanks will have to make some choices.
For example, if we assume that all of the Yanks young players continue to perform at or above the levels they have already set, then Sanchez, Judge and Severino are locks for long-term deals. However, Bird- while solid, could be replaceable if the Yanks develop a solid 1B.
Andujar is the best option today, but his upside is solid big league regular 3B. If the Yanks develop another 3B internally, they could elect that route as opposed to giving him a big deal.
Gray is more of a stop-gap until some of the really high upside Yankee SP prospects develop. Remember that he is only under team control (arbitration) for 2 years. He could be one they may elect to let walk for a younger guy with huge upside.
Tanaka is under contract for 3 years. Same story there- he will be entering his decline years and the mileage on that arm will be VERY high by that point.
The idea is that the Yanks will be shifting to a model where they will give out large deals to players who project to be the top or among the top at their position for a period of time. However, guys who are aging or just are good, but not great will likely be shown the door for new prospects.
Machado is something different. His upside is enormous. He has had some down seasons. He also plays on an average to below average team. What many have asked for some time is what kind of player would he be in a winning environment surrounded by strong talent- THAT is why he is projected along with Harper as the next $300-400M player.
As much as the Yanks have the best farm system in baseball top to bottom (though maybe the Braves and Padres argue with that), they do not have a middle INF prospect with Machado's upside or production. Even Torres is not projected to end up with Machado's power or middle of the lineup output.
The Yanks will spend where they have a player who is better than what everyone else has- but the cost to that going forward will be that they will have to let the league average guys walk and hope that they can identify a prospect who can give the same or more going forward- or can trade some for one who can.
The point is, the minor league system is stacked. Give the prospects a chance, sift through the wave after wave of talent, rather than locking yourself into long term deals that have no guarantee of performance in the present and are sure to suffocate payroll flexibilty down the road.
I really like Andujar, probably more than most. He has that Cano quality to him, not in style because he isn't touted for his sweet swing, but I have a feeling that he'll grow into his arm on defense and outperform his track record on offense just like Cano did. And Didi is Didi, I don't know how you can be in a hurry to replace him. I'm set with an IF of Sanchez, Bird, Torres, Didi and Anduar, thank you very much.
We are not signing these young superstars to 3-5 year deals that will end before we have to pay our own, we are looking at 7-10 year deals that will certainly become dead weights by the second halfs. We don't need to bring those types of players in anymore because now suddenly our system is churning out prospects.
I see absolutely no way that Darvish outpitches the terms of this contract enough to opt out. He will be 33 in 2 years. Look how long it took him to get this deal, I can’t see him getting a better one when he’s two years older.
The point is, the minor league system is stacked. Give the prospects a chance, sift through the wave after wave of talent, rather than locking yourself into long term deals that have no guarantee of performance in the present and are sure to suffocate payroll flexibilty down the road.
I really like Andujar, probably more than most. He has that Cano quality to him, not in style because he isn't touted for his sweet swing, but I have a feeling that he'll grow into his arm on defense and outperform his track record on offense just like Cano did. And Didi is Didi, I don't know how you can be in a hurry to replace him. I'm set with an IF of Sanchez, Bird, Torres, Didi and Anduar, thank you very much.
We are not signing these young superstars to 3-5 year deals that will end before we have to pay our own, we are looking at 7-10 year deals that will certainly become dead weights by the second halfs. We don't need to bring those types of players in anymore because now suddenly our system is churning out prospects.
Almost everything in this post is silly- except for the part about Andujar, which I agree with.
The problem that runs through the entire post is that while the Yanks minors are deep in talent, there is not a single hitter in the ENTIRE minor league system who has the upside that Machado has already demonstrated. 2017 was Machado's worst full season (he was injured for half the season in 2014)- and he still OPS'd 107 with 33 HR, and an OPS of .782.
The Yanks simply do not have another prospect like that. Didi's BEST season does not match Machado's worst. Torres is not projected to have that kind of power or be a middle of the order hitter.
It may lock up a significant portion of the payroll, but the Yanks are not short of cash. Furthermore, they have been careful to make sure that the large contracts they do have will generally fall off the payroll just as the young guys will make real money. Tanaka, Ellsbury, Chapman and all the others (except Stanton) will all hit FA just as Judge, Severino, and the other youngsters reach FA themselves or their 3rd year of arbitration.
Don't believe me, look for yourself at the link below.
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The problem is that he is really little more than a #3 SP who will take the ball every 5th day- CC is better than him still- and he's the 5th SP.
Even without CC, Chance Adams can give the Yanks whatever Lynn can- at a fraction of the cost- and no long term commitment.
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innings eater, consistent, shouldn't be ridiculously expensive.
The problem is that he is really little more than a #3 SP who will take the ball every 5th day- CC is better than him still- and he's the 5th SP.
Even without CC, Chance Adams can give the Yanks whatever Lynn can- at a fraction of the cost- and no long term commitment.
true, he's not an ace nor an aboslute must have, but not looking for one. CCs knee could go at anytime, as could Tanaka's elbow. At least you would have a steady vet behind Severino and not put too much pressure on the kids coming up. But your point about the commitment is valid.