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LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/11/2018 1:32 pm


Mudiay will make his Knicks debut today.

Scott Perry says Ntilikina won't see any G League action.
Let's go  
adamg : 2/11/2018 1:42 pm : link
Jarrett Jack remains the starter  
Canton : 2/11/2018 1:47 pm : link
Comical
Do they even win 5 more games the rest of the way?  
Mike in NJ : 2/11/2018 1:48 pm : link
Things are going to get ugly without Porzingis. A top 5 pick is looking pretty realistic.
Hoping for a top three pick this year and next  
Earl the goat : 2/11/2018 2:08 pm : link
Luke Kornet today 15 points. 10 rebounds. 3 blocks
RE: Jarrett Jack remains the starter  
PhiPsi125 : 2/11/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13829139 Canton said:
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Comical


This can only mean that Perry hasnít instructed Hornacek to play the kids yet...which is equally concerning. Unless Perry believes that playing the kids more will give them a better chance to win (and be bad for the tank) which is also possible.
Hornacek said yesterday  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 2:28 pm : link
All 3 young point guards will play plenty of minutes and jacks minutes will be reduced
RE: Jarrett Jack remains the starter  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13829139 Canton said:
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Comical


No official word on if he is startijg, these are usually based on last game
Will be  
GMEN46 : 2/11/2018 2:31 pm : link
Very difficult for knicks to become a bottom 5 team. There are so many really bad teams below them that they are 5 games ahead of in the loss column. Now an 8 game losing streak here, which seems likely could make it interesting
RE: Hornacek said yesterday  
PhiPsi125 : 2/11/2018 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13829168 nygiants16 said:
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All 3 young point guards will play plenty of minutes and jacks minutes will be reduced


Well, there you have it.

However, heís said stuff before and not followed through on it.
It's gonna take a ton of losing  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2018 2:37 pm : link
to jump spots in the lottery. The teams ahead of us are all around 18 games under .500 and mostly fading. Nets have lost 9 of 10 or something. Keep the Ls coming, boys.
Looking  
Reeses Pieces : 2/11/2018 2:42 pm : link
Forward to seeing Jarrett Jackís development over th remainder of the season.
RE: Looking  
Giantfootball025 : 2/11/2018 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13829180 Reeses Pieces said:
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Forward to seeing Jarrett Jackís development over th remainder of the season.


Don't forget Lance Thomas as well. Exciting time to be a Knick fan....
Just because jack is starting  
djm : 2/11/2018 3:13 pm : link
Doesn't mean he's going to get big minutes. Plus, they might want to bring frank off the bench and not overwhelm anymore than he already is.

RE: Just because jack is starting  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/11/2018 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13829194 djm said:
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Doesn't mean he's going to get big minutes. Plus, they might want to bring frank off the bench and not overwhelm anymore than he already is.


Jack shouldn't be starting. Period. Burke should be.
Mudiay will play today, hornacek said with Frank  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 3:59 pm : link
Hornacek said lineup changes will happen after all star break
One good thing is  
Carl in CT : 2/11/2018 4:08 pm : link
Mudiay is an athlete like we havenít seen at the 1 in a long time. Decision making is the problem.
Can't argue with that:  
adamg : 2/11/2018 4:18 pm : link
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Hornacek acknowledged there will be some lineup changes after All-Star break.

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Anyone having problems with MSG?  
Canton : 2/11/2018 5:03 pm : link
I'm just getting the color spectrum on my screen
RE: Anyone having problems with MSG?  
steve in ky : 2/11/2018 5:08 pm : link
In comment 13829266 Canton said:
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I'm just getting the color spectrum on my screen


I was having trouble but I thought it may be that I was blacked out. I was able to switch to Pacers broadcast which is coming in OK (Direct TV)
It's working now  
Canton : 2/11/2018 5:09 pm : link
👌
I think I am just blacked out from NY telecast  
steve in ky : 2/11/2018 5:11 pm : link
Sucks I have to listen to Pacers announcers, but at least I am watching it.
Frank in pretty quickly for Jack  
Del Shofner : 2/11/2018 5:19 pm : link
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and now Mudiay with Frank  
Del Shofner : 2/11/2018 5:26 pm : link
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God lance Thomas blows  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 5:36 pm : link
Mudiay looks good so far
Mudiay  
Jon in NYC : 2/11/2018 5:38 pm : link
looks good so far. Burke looks like the odd man out.
Mudiay looks like a real  
Carl in CT : 2/11/2018 5:43 pm : link
PG.
wow - Mudiay looking good on assists,  
Del Shofner : 2/11/2018 5:43 pm : link
would have more if Lance could shoot.
Um...  
Jon in NYC : 2/11/2018 5:44 pm : link
is Emmanuel Mudiay the best PG in the league? Holy shit.
That cross court dime was sweet mudiay to my ears  
Canton : 2/11/2018 5:44 pm : link
.🎼🎧
Mudiay missed 2 shots  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 5:48 pm : link
I am sure jack is coming back in
Burke comes in  
Del Shofner : 2/11/2018 6:00 pm : link
and some turnovers follow ...
This is what happens when you have jack at point  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 6:25 pm : link
Kanter has to make passes at the top of the key and Lee and hardaway basically have to run the offense
So glad we hung onto Lee.  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2018 6:28 pm : link
What was our asking price again? Five first rounders?
Mudiay and Frenchie  
Carl in CT : 2/11/2018 6:47 pm : link
Outplayed Lee and Jack by a mile through 3. Is like to see their plus/minus after this one
There seems to be something with a Knick's first game.  
JustaDiscussion : 2/11/2018 7:28 pm : link
Today Mudiay looked good. Last game Kornet looked good. Burke looked good his first game. Kanter and McDermott both started the season really well. So far nobody has been able to be consistent after the quick starts. I wonder if Mudiay can play anything like today's game going foward.

I liked the Mudiay / Frank back court. Mudiay cut just as well as McDermott had been, so it looks like there isn't any drop off there.

THjr's contract is looking bad again. At least he made some shots today. I still struggle to see the Knicks ever becoming contenders if they continue to pay players like THjr and Kanter as much money as they currently are.
Only 25 more to go.  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2018 7:29 pm : link
I say we go 5-20.

Frank needs to shoot a million jumpers this summer. If he hits two threes, two teardrops and two free throws per game, he'll be just fine.
RE: There seems to be something with a Knick's first game.  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 7:31 pm : link
In comment 13829372 JustaDiscussion said:
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Today Mudiay looked good. Last game Kornet looked good. Burke looked good his first game. Kanter and McDermott both started the season really well. So far nobody has been able to be consistent after the quick starts. I wonder if Mudiay can play anything like today's game going foward.

I liked the Mudiay / Frank back court. Mudiay cut just as well as McDermott had been, so it looks like there isn't any drop off there.

THjr's contract is looking bad again. At least he made some shots today. I still struggle to see the Knicks ever becoming contenders if they continue to pay players like THjr and Kanter as much money as they currently are.


Kanter has not been consistent? He is averaging a double double...

Hardaway looked very good then got hurt, his contract won't prohibit them from doing anything, it is noah contract that is going to kill them
Mudiay: 14 pt 10 as in his debut  
adamg : 2/11/2018 7:48 pm : link
not bad
RE: Mudiay and Frenchie  
Del Shofner : 2/11/2018 8:03 pm : link
In comment 13829351 Carl in CT said:
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Outplayed Lee and Jack by a mile through 3. Is like to see their plus/minus after this one


Jack -8 in 8 min
Mudiay +2 in 29 min
Frank +8 in 31 min
sorry -  
Del Shofner : 2/11/2018 8:05 pm : link
and Lee -12 in 21 min
RE: RE: There seems to be something with a Knick's first game.  
JustaDiscussion : 2/11/2018 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13829378 nygiants16 said:
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Kanter has not been consistent? He is averaging a double double...

Hardaway looked very good then got hurt, his contract won't prohibit them from doing anything, it is noah contract that is going to kill them


I was hopeful for THjr there for a moment, but as of right now he just seems to be very streaky. His first 3 games were awful, he got hot, he got hurt, he came back strong and then went back to awful again. It fits with his M.O. I hope I'm wrong but he hasn't proven it to me yet.

It seems like we've beat the Kanter thing to death. He's a good scorer and great rebounder but there is more to the game than that. It's the rest of his play that is inconsistent. He's always been taken off the court at the end of games everywhere that he's been because his D and his passing just aren't good enough when the chips are down.

I'm not saying that either player is awful. I'm just saying that they aren't great either. To me they are both decent players that are getting paid more than they are worth and it's one of the many issues currently holding the Knicks down. Just my opinion. I only mentioned it because I hope that the Frank / Mudiay back court works out in the next year or two and forces THjr to the bench.
THJr is playing the 3 so  
Del Shofner : 2/11/2018 8:08 pm : link
the Frank-Mudiay backcourt doesn't force him out. Now, it may well be that we need another 3, though ...
The Knicks might not win more than 5-7 games the rest of the way  
dpinzow : 2/11/2018 8:15 pm : link
without Porzingis. They will get into the lottery conversation (and I want Trae Young over everyone else available, we desperately need a PG and he's scarily like Steph Curry)
I want hardaway to attack stop settling for 3  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 8:15 pm : link
If it is wide open yes shoot it but he can't attack the rim..

Liked what I saw from mudiay, I would have liked to seehim attack more but he played well for his first game, any doubt he should start tomorrow?

Lance Thomas needs to go away, mudiay would of had 14 assists if Thomas knocked down wide open shots
RE: The Knicks might not win more than 5-7 games the rest of the way  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 13829415 dpinzow said:
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without Porzingis. They will get into the lottery conversation (and I want Trae Young over everyone else available, we desperately need a PG and he's scarily like Steph Curry)


My guy is miles bridges...

He is a great fit next to kp and is very versatile,, can play the 4 or 3,
RE: THJr is playing the 3 so  
JustaDiscussion : 2/11/2018 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13829410 Del Shofner said:
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the Frank-Mudiay backcourt doesn't force him out. Now, it may well be that we need another 3, though ...


Yeah, I was hoping the Knicks can find a two way player at the three. It's tough to watch Lee and THjr get abused by players like Bojan Bogdanović.
If the medicals check out on Michael Porter  
Earl the goat : 2/11/2018 8:47 pm : link
And heís there when the Knicks pick than heís my choice
Either of the Bridges are fine with me - Miles or Mikal.  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2018 8:48 pm : link
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The Frank Mudiay backcourt should be the starters  
Earl the goat : 2/11/2018 8:58 pm : link
The remaining season. Both these guys should see 30 plus minutes
With Trey Burke as the rotational piece. Jack should get no minutes

I can see Frank building up towards the end of the year averaging 15 points 5-8 assists and 3-5 rebounds
I can see Mudiay 15-20 points with the same assist and rebounds
Iím hoping Lee gets less and less playing time and THJr shoots his way out of this slump

Starters
Enes
Beasley
THJr
Frank
Mudiay

Bench
Oquinn. Kornet Burke. Dotson

Jack and Thomas zero minutes. Lee subbing in for THJr
^^^^  
Del Shofner : 2/11/2018 9:05 pm : link
I'm in with that plan.
There are three sf's projected on a lot of sites...  
manh george : 2/11/2018 9:44 pm : link
to go at roughly 7-11 in the draft: Kevin Knox, Mikhail Bridges, Miles Bridges. A big, fast athletic sf would improve this team significantly when JP gets back.

Knox is not yet 19.
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6í8.75 skilled and versatile forward Ö Good size and length for a wing with a 7í0 wingspan and 8í11 standing reach Ö Smooth shooting mechanics with good arc ... Can shoot from midrange and three ... Can shoot off the catch and dribble ... Can score from anywhere on the floor/


SI also has him as 10th, but has Bridges at 8th. The Knicks seem lucky that there is good depth at this position.
RE: RE: Just because jack is starting  
djm : 2/12/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 13829199 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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In comment 13829194 djm said:


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Doesn't mean he's going to get big minutes. Plus, they might want to bring frank off the bench and not overwhelm anymore than he already is.




Jack shouldn't be starting. Period. Burke should be.


Jack logged a whopping 8 minutes last night. Like I said....
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