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Other than our beloved Bobby Hart, When do our cuts start?

superspynyg : 2/12/2018 12:33 pm
When will Gettleman start with the bulk of our cuts? More toward start of the new league year in March?

I know there is speculation that several contracts on the block including Marshal, Harris, Jerry, possibly DRC.
Maybe waiting until after the coaching hires are completed  
adamg : 2/12/2018 12:42 pm : link
Have you heard any cuts coming in from other teams yet?

Also, don't know how much self-scouting they've done...
I know DRC has a decent sized cap hit for a player..  
bLiTz 2k : 2/12/2018 12:47 pm : link
who has not been utilized for majority of the defensive snaps..

BUT -- with only 1 year left on his deal, I would be willing to eat that cost for his situational use and locker room presence.

Bettcher may have a different opinion than Spags in terms of utilizing his skill set as well.

Once you let him walk in 2019, the Giants should gain a positive with regards to a comp pick as well.
RE: I know DRC has a decent sized cap hit for a player..  
Beer Man : 2/12/2018 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13829916 bLiTz 2k said:
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who has not been utilized for majority of the defensive snaps..

BUT -- with only 1 year left on his deal, I would be willing to eat that cost for his situational use and locker room presence.

Bettcher may have a different opinion than Spags in terms of utilizing his skill set as well.

Once you let him walk in 2019, the Giants should gain a positive with regards to a comp pick as well.
DRC has also indicated a willingness to move to FS
Did DRC have any time playing under our new DC  
jlukes : 2/12/2018 12:58 pm : link
when he was in Arizona?

What's the rush?  
paesan98 : 2/12/2018 1:19 pm : link
Team can't spend the money on FAs for another month
Fairly soon I would imagine but cutting Eli  
Jimmy Googs : 2/12/2018 1:20 pm : link
could be later...
Should be a ton of self-scouting in full force  
JonC : 2/12/2018 1:21 pm : link
in prep to clear the space in time for UFA to open.
RE: Did DRC have any time playing under our new DC  
Mad Mike : 2/12/2018 1:25 pm : link
In comment 13829938 jlukes said:
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when he was in Arizona?

No, Bettcher didn't get there until 2013 and didn't become the DC until 2015.
RE: Should be a ton of self-scouting in full force  
jvm52106 : 2/12/2018 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13829983 JonC said:
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in prep to clear the space in time for UFA to open.


Yeah agree completely. I highly doubt they have not been "self scouting". Things will heat up soon I suspect. Free Agency is around the corner.
RE: I know DRC has a decent sized cap hit for a player..  
giants#1 : 2/12/2018 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13829916 bLiTz 2k said:
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who has not been utilized for majority of the defensive snaps..

BUT -- with only 1 year left on his deal, I would be willing to eat that cost for his situational use and locker room presence.

Bettcher may have a different opinion than Spags in terms of utilizing his skill set as well.

Once you let him walk in 2019, the Giants should gain a positive with regards to a comp pick as well.


The issue with his playing time was more nagging injuries and the belief that his body couldn't withstand 100% of the snaps. Not a belief in how to use him.

As for the comp pick, they'd likely net something but their may not be a ton of teams lining up for a 33 year old CB and comp picks are based partly on the size of the contract.
RE: RE: I know DRC has a decent sized cap hit for a player..  
giants#1 : 2/12/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13829927 Beer Man said:
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In comment 13829916 bLiTz 2k said:


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who has not been utilized for majority of the defensive snaps..

BUT -- with only 1 year left on his deal, I would be willing to eat that cost for his situational use and locker room presence.

Bettcher may have a different opinion than Spags in terms of utilizing his skill set as well.

Once you let him walk in 2019, the Giants should gain a positive with regards to a comp pick as well.

DRC has also indicated a willingness to move to FS


I thought (last offseason at least) that DRC was reluctant to move to FS. Where did you see he was willing to make the switch?
DRC is reportedly is open to a pay cut  
JonC : 2/12/2018 1:29 pm : link
which might help his case with the new boss.

Preferably, you need a consistent strong tackler at FS.
RE: RE: RE: I know DRC has a decent sized cap hit for a player..  
Diver_Down : 2/12/2018 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13829997 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13829927 Beer Man said:


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In comment 13829916 bLiTz 2k said:


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who has not been utilized for majority of the defensive snaps..

BUT -- with only 1 year left on his deal, I would be willing to eat that cost for his situational use and locker room presence.

Bettcher may have a different opinion than Spags in terms of utilizing his skill set as well.

Once you let him walk in 2019, the Giants should gain a positive with regards to a comp pick as well.

DRC has also indicated a willingness to move to FS



I thought (last offseason at least) that DRC was reluctant to move to FS. Where did you see he was willing to make the switch?


Exit interviews at the end of this season. I'm sure you can find them on Giants.com.
Preferably, you need a consistent strong tackler at FS  
JonC : 2/12/2018 1:34 pm : link
to which DRC is not.
RE: Preferably, you need a consistent strong tackler at FS  
Emil : 2/12/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13830009 JonC said:
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to which DRC is not.


Agreed

Also, with the Eli Apple situation I'm not sure the Giants should cut a proven player like DRC. Starting 3 CBs next season could very well be Jenkins, DRC, and Cockrell. Why start Apple, even if he is on the team. All three of those players outplayed him in 2017.
RE: Preferably, you need a consistent strong tackler at FS  
Snacks : 2/12/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13830009 JonC said:
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to which DRC is not.


I'm with you on this one. Ball in the air he would be pretty damn good i think.

But i would hold my breath with him tackling and being the last line of defense.

Another thing to consider, can he hold up playing safety?
This is...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/12/2018 3:27 pm : link
incorrect:

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The issue with his playing time was more nagging injuries and the belief that his body couldn't withstand 100% of the snaps. Not a belief in how to use him.


The issue was both his playing time and his utilization. He was on the sidelines while Apple was in there in some defensive sets, and then later in the year when Cockrell was in there.

He had a problem with the coaches, which is one of the reasons he ended up getting into a couple of sideline arguments and went to the locker room early at the end of a game.

Normally, I'd pin that on DRC because he's always walked a fine line, but last year was such a shitshow and so poorly led that he probably was in the right.
Doubtful that there will be many cuts unless it is for cap adjustments  
Ivan15 : 2/12/2018 4:46 pm : link
Some free agents won’t be resigned but, for now, if a player has a contract that fits, it makes no sense to cut him.

Perhaps after the Giants start to sign new players, there will be cuts.
Has the league year even ended yet?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/12/2018 5:10 pm : link
Getting ahead of ourselves worrying about cuts. There's no roster limit to worry about right now.
Speaking of which  
bLiTz 2k : 2/12/2018 6:54 pm : link
is there a benefit to cut loose certain contracts before the league year starts?

I know a poster made a thread with the Giants having a history of cutting loose vets during the month of February...Is it a good faith thing to allow them to prepare for FA?
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