I watched part of the Knicks game last night in the hope to watch them lose, but to also see more of Mudiay and Frenchie in the same backcourt.
Instead, we got a ton of Jarrett Jack, Courtney Lee and Lance Thomas.
At times, the lineup was Jack, Hardaway, Lee or Thomas, Beasley and Kanter.
I don't care if Ben Simmons scores 50 points, no need to play Lance Thomas extra minutes.
I don't know if management has or has not told Hornacek that his job depends on the younger players or not, but if they not, they need too.
The worst case scenario is going to happen as the veterans are going to lead the Knicks to 7-9 more wins this season, which will keep us around 9 or 10 in the draft and we will have no idea if the younger players are keepers are not.
It is extremely frustrating!
The draft is a crapshoot. We got very lucky with KP and possibly missed on Frank ( still too early). But that’s how lottery picks go- you need multiple cracks at it. That was Hinkies philosophy and it proved true. Embiid/Simmons/Saric vs Okafor/ Noel / MCW and maybe Futz?
Separate topic--tanking: If you look at the rankings and records of the teams behind the Knicks in w-l, doing better than the eighth slot is tough, and even that is doubtful. Right now they are ninth. The Bulls are the only team in either conference less than 4 games behind the Knicks, and none of the others is winning much except Sacramento. Maybe they fall below Sacramento and get to eighth. I'm still looking at one of the SFs at that slot.
But....but....CULTURE!
I was thinking the same.
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Really hit the skids after being somewhat competitive in the first half of the season.
But....but....CULTURE!
Haha I was listening to the radio yeaterday, nets fans calling in ripping the knicks saying they are not building anything and they stink, Michael Kay of course agreed with them..
I am thinking wait a second the nets suck and they have no draft pick..
At least the knicks will add another lottery pick to kp
This team is terrible now. It wouldn't shock me if they finish out the season with only 3 or 4 more wins. As of today, Dallas and Atlanta are on a 26 win pace and as you said are both well coached. I think it's realistic they finish ahead of the Knicks. Orlando, Memphis, Brooklyn, and Chicago are all on pace for 27 wins or more. We will be neck and neck with all of them, but I would expect Orlando to be the one to finish worse than NY.
I agree that Phoenix and Sacramento are terrible, it's unlikely we catch either of them, but a top 5 pick seems pretty realistic to me.
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should pass by us at some point. I'm hoping the Nets do as well eventually, simply because they have no reason to tank. No way we catch the Suns or Kings. That leaves the Grizz, Magic, Mavs, and Hawks. Maybe we get lucky and 1-2 of them string some random wins together. The Mavs and Hawks are well coached so you never know.
This team is terrible now. It wouldn't shock me if they finish out the season with only 3 or 4 more wins. As of today, Dallas and Atlanta are on a 26 win pace and as you said are both well coached. I think it's realistic they finish ahead of the Knicks. Orlando, Memphis, Brooklyn, and Chicago are all on pace for 27 wins or more. We will be neck and neck with all of them, but I would expect Orlando to be the one to finish worse than NY.
I agree that Phoenix and Sacramento are terrible, it's unlikely we catch either of them, but a top 5 pick seems pretty realistic to me.
Unfortunately, Hornacek is going to continue to play Beasley/Kanter/Hardaway/Jack/Lee and a few others big minutes, which will probably have us win about 5 -7 more games by accient, which will keep us in the in the 8-10 range instead of Top 5. It is why we go nuts each day, because we all know it is destined to happen.
Kristaps Porzingis underwent successful surgery today to repair a torn ACL in his left knee on Tuesday.
The Knicks have not yet provided a timetable for his return, but he is likely looking at between 10-12 months of rehab. Let's hope the Unicorn comes back stronger than ever. He is the only player in NBA history to average at least 1.5 3-pointers and 2.0 blocks over the first three seasons of his NBA career.
I'd guess his true timetable will be 9-12 months. They can be very conservative with KP and he should still get back in 9 months(assuming no setbacks). Plenty of players have come back between 6-9 months, but KP is unique in his body type. I still say November/December of 2018 is when we should see the big guy back on the floor.
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Hornacek is really good.
Yup that's exactly what I said.
I said he was ordinary...maybe even a little worse but he's not clueless and complaints about a difference of 3-4-5 minutes doesn't change that. He could just be easing guys like Frank and Mudiay along. Can't speak to Burke but after his first 2 games here he looks like shit, in limited playing time... one thing is certain, Burke can't play D. Surprise.
I was fucking with you a bit since you were playing devils advocate. But I agree with you that we shouldn't change for changes same. Ideally we'd bring in a guy who can improve kids. That should be our focus. Maximizing potential. I don't trust Hornacek for that.
I'm not the biggest more ardent tank supporter but now? I'm all in. Think good, bad lousy bball nyk thoughts...believe.....
I sure as hell won't shed a tear if when he's wacked but if horn is coach for another year it won't devastate me either.
I sure as hell won't shed a tear if when he's wacked but if horn is coach for another year it won't devastate me either.
My biggest problem with hornacek is he says one thing then does the exact opposite the next game...
The offense he runs is horrible, his defensive philosophy is horrid, it just seems like he makes it up as he goes along...
He talks about players have to earn minutes, yet he plays guys like jack and thomas who do nothing, hardaway is chucking away last night and he leaves him in..
Mudiay or Frank have 1 turnover and they immediately sit...