Let me start off by saying I totally understand why people love Josh Rosen. His footwork, touch and football intelligence rate above average. His ball accuracy will be night and day to Eli's and I love Eli.
What has slowed my enthusiasm on Josh, like everyone else, is his slight frame, W/L record and concussion history.
I read articles about his attitude and mental make up being problematic, but found it hard to really get a grasp of what others found so discouraging about his personality.
I cam across Josh's Elite 11 episode from 2014 and I think is gives a pretty good insight on his personality and how the QB coaches he worked with found him abrasive and hard to coach. Of course this is Josh Rosen at 17 years old so I have no doubt he has matured some.
Sam Darnold is also in this episode but is not featured at all. He also does not make the cut at the end.
Its an hour long episode, I advise to watch the entire episode because it really features Josh a lot. I will let you guys be the judge.
I also linked the Rich Eisen interview with Trent Dilfer where Trent talks a little about his time with Josh Rosen.
BTW - Davis Webb makes and early appearance as an Elite 11 camp assistant @ 13:55 mark on the left.
Journey to Greatness: The 2014 Elite 11 Story - (
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But Rosen’s quest to know “why” can wear on authority figures. Sometimes, he does it to see how far he can push his point. Once, during spring practice in 2015, Rosen argued with Negro about suspending a weight session so the team could watch the Women’s World Cup. Rosen cited patriotism and feminism in a “very compelling argument.” But eventually Negro had to just say: “Josh, that’s a great idea. But we’re not doing that.”
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And where critics like Dilfer see an arrogant kid with poor “buy-in,” his high school coaches would paint a different picture. Johnson studied the playbook with Rosen prior to Elite 11, making flashcards of every play for Rosen to memorize. Each was named after a different Elite 11 alumnus. A curl route dubbed Andrew Luck, for instance. Studying brought questions about several plays. Rosen wanted to ask for clarification to ensure the plays were run correctly.
But Rosen’s quest to know “why” can wear on authority figures. Sometimes, he does it to see how far he can push his point. Once, during spring practice in 2015, Rosen argued with Negro about suspending a weight session so the team could watch the Women’s World Cup. Rosen cited patriotism and feminism in a “very compelling argument.” But eventually Negro had to just say: “Josh, that’s a great idea. But we’re not doing that.”
It's funny in this episode Rosen talks about how he dislikes the West Coast offense and how you only throw deep inside the 20. I wonder how he would jell with Shurmur.
I asked her about him and she said that he is a really special, hard working kid and is just a pleasure to be around.
Yeah, what else would you expect an aunt to say.
Just thought I’d pass this along.
Dilfers shit camp all show along with his fake patriotism
"Special" is the word constantly used to describe him.
Off the charts smarts, leadership even beyond his role, just great feel, and of course great football ability...
So he asks questions? BFD. I want a critical thinking person, someone to challenge the status into a better way, if there is one. Rosen seems to be on the Peyton / Rogers spectrum of mental aptitude.
Give his body a little more time to mature redshirting him with the Giants and watch out. I think he's the next great one in this class, and the health and frame are worth the gamble.