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Latest CBS Mock: Mayfield 1st, Barkley falls to 9th!

Stan in LA : 2/16/2018 2:25 pm
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2. New York Giants

Sam Darnold, QB, USC. The Giants will receive a copious amount of phone calls here with Darnold and Rosen on the board, and while general manager Dave Gettleman will listen to every offer, he'll take his quarterback of the future, the signal caller no one really has the Giants picking. It's not crazy to believe Gettleman and head coach Pat Shurmur ultimately see more upside with Darnold.

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I love any mock  
allstarjim : 2/16/2018 2:29 pm : link
with Darnold to the Giants. But this is just silly.
That's the ideal scenario  
Jay on the Island : 2/16/2018 2:31 pm : link
the Browns take either Allen, Rosen, or Mayfield 1st leaving Darnold for the Giants.
click bait mock  
Heisenberg : 2/16/2018 2:32 pm : link
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RE: click bait mock  
Victor in CT : 2/16/2018 2:37 pm : link
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They're all click bait at this point. FA signing period hasn't started yet. Combine hasn't happened yet. Cuts still have to happen.
"Click Bait"  
ZogZerg : 2/16/2018 2:53 pm : link
New BBI catch phrase....
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Danny Kanell : 2/16/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13834745 ZogZerg said:
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New BBI catch phrase....


Agreed.

- 2007
RE: RE: click bait mock  
Heisenberg : 2/16/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13834730 Victor in CT said:
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They're all click bait at this point. FA signing period hasn't started yet. Combine hasn't happened yet. Cuts still have to happen.


True, and to stand out you need to do goofy stuff like Mayfield going #1. It's not as bad as the guy who had a trade of every pick in the first round, though.
"The signal caller no one has Giants picking"  
joeinpa : 2/16/2018 3:36 pm : link
Does he mean Darnold or any qb.

If the latter I don t get it. You don t get the number 2 pick in the draft unless you are a very bad team with many holes and in need of a rebuild.

There is no more important place to begin a rebuild than at quarterback.

Unless you are positive Davis Webb is the next franchise guy, you go quarterback with that pick, especially when it is a quarterback year

I don t buy into all the concerns being shared from those who want to build around Eli or place their trust in Webb.

These prospects have big arms, are athletic, and seem to be smart enough
to learn the pro game

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est1986 : 2/16/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13834708 allstarjim said:
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with Darnold to the Giants. But this is just silly.


Why is it silly? Should every mock draft be the same?
It's certainly possible...  
Milton : 2/16/2018 3:44 pm : link
I think Cleveland goes with either Mayfield or Darnold. And if they go Mayfield (he could be exactly what that franchise and city needs), I could see the Giants choosing Darnold over Rosen and then the Jets trading up with Indy to grab Rosen.

I'm not sure who goes where, but I could definitely see Darnold and Rosen taking their "rivalry" from the City of Angels to the Big Apple. Here's hoping Rosen is the one in blue, but I like Darnold too.

p.s.--I like Mayfield too but he and NYC would not be a good fit.
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allstarjim : 2/16/2018 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13834785 est1986 said:
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with Darnold to the Giants. But this is just silly.



Why is it silly? Should every mock draft be the same?


It's silly that Barkley is going to last to #9 and be drafted behind Josh Jackson and Calvin Ridley. You can say the Browns might fall in love with Mayfield at #1, but Barkley that low is nuts.
If the Browns want to take Mayfield  
Essex : 2/16/2018 4:16 pm : link
I feel like they would be fools not to take him at 4, but just keep it quiet (so nobody jumps them at 3). The Giants aren't taking Mayfield and nobody is giving up a draft for him to trade at 3. If they take Barkley 1, Giants take Darnold or Rosen, Indy would be sitting in the catbird seat for whoever the Giants don't take and the Browns pick Mayfield at 4 and have Barkley and Mayfield.
You take the fucking QB  
adamg : 2/16/2018 4:20 pm : link
You don't pretend not to like him and draft another position at 1 and then watch another team trade in front of you at 3 to snag him because you tried to get fancy when you just need to take the effing QB.
Unless the Browns are dumb enough to leak their #1 pick,  
Ivan15 : 2/16/2018 5:07 pm : link
It won’t be enough for the Giants to be committed to a QB, they will have to move up to get him. No way can the Giants sit back and wait unless they aren’t committed.
Barkley falls to 9th?  
Jimmy Googs : 2/16/2018 5:15 pm : link
Damn it, too bad we aren't picking 9th this year...
What if the Browns are equally interested in 2 QBs? They can trade  
Ivan15 : 2/16/2018 5:18 pm : link
With the Giants, pick up more draft picks and still get a QB. Or they could get Barkley at #2 and trade from 4 to 3 to get a QB.
I think Barkley  
Big Rick in FL : 2/16/2018 6:00 pm : link
Goes lower then people think. Idk about 9, but I don't think he's a top 3 guy like most people think.
Awful  
Jerry K : 2/16/2018 6:28 pm : link
writing.
RE: What if the Browns are equally interested in 2 QBs?  
Milton : 2/16/2018 6:44 pm : link
It's hard enough to find one that you love, if there's two you love equally chances are you don't really love either (kind of like with women). Usually, there's one you love and--if you're lucky--one you can be happy with. And if you have the first pick, you take the one you love and don't look back.

The Giants have the second pick. If there's one they love, they're just going to have to cross their fingers and hope that the Browns see it differently (beauty, after all, is in the eye of the beholder). If there's also one that the Giants would be happy with, then they should consider themselves still lucky if he is the one they wind up with. Short of that, they should trade down with a team who sees it differently.

So here's hoping that Dorsey keeps the party polite
And doesn't let Mayfield out of his sight.

A lady wouldn't wander all over the room and blow on some other guy's dice - ( New Window )
Wow, these guys are smart!  
TC : 2/16/2018 7:31 pm : link
I've got ZERO ability to predict the future, even if I have too many opinions of what the Giants OUGHT to do!

1. If some team offers Gettleman enough he'll come down unless he's absolutely convinced the QB he wants is worth it. I'm not sure any of them are.

2. I don't necessarily want the Giants to take Barkley, nor I do I believe he has to be a top 5 pick, but I'll bet money someone's in love with him and he doesn't fall that far.
I know everyone wants a QB ....but,  
short lease : 2/16/2018 8:17 pm : link
I would love to see Chubb in Blue. The defense has to get back to the dominating front it once had not to long ago (Tuck, Osi, Strahan, Linval Joesph, Kiwinuka had a couple of good years on the line etc ...).

It seems like they got away from drafting solid pass rushers on the DL? It also seems like the would draft 1 very high 1st or 2nd round every year. Were those EA's drafts (his approach I should say) and then JR stopped with that?
Barkley at 9 is a head scratcher...BUT Connor Williams at #12?  
GFAN52 : 2/16/2018 8:47 pm : link
No chance that happens. Not impressed with this draft.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 2/16/2018 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13834745 ZogZerg said:
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New BBI catch phrase....


Have you never heard this word before?
So Denver trades back and reaches on a guard  
larryflower37 : 2/16/2018 10:21 pm : link
Remotes will be flying all over Colorado.
RE: I know everyone wants a QB ....but,  
Big Rick in FL : 2/16/2018 11:27 pm : link
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I would love to see Chubb in Blue. The defense has to get back to the dominating front it once had not to long ago (Tuck, Osi, Strahan, Linval Joesph, Kiwinuka had a couple of good years on the line etc ...).

It seems like they got away from drafting solid pass rushers on the DL? It also seems like the would draft 1 very high 1st or 2nd round every year. Were those EA's drafts (his approach I should say) and then JR stopped with that?


Well get that out of your head. The Giants can't afford and aren't going to draft a DE with the 2nd pick. We have way too much money tied up at DE. If a Khalil Mack, Clowney type player was there it's a possibility. Chubb isn't close to those guys.
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short lease : 2/17/2018 12:09 am : link
In comment 13834996 Big Rick in FL said:
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I would love to see Chubb in Blue. The defense has to get back to the dominating front it once had not to long ago (Tuck, Osi, Strahan, Linval Joesph, Kiwinuka had a couple of good years on the line etc ...).

It seems like they got away from drafting solid pass rushers on the DL? It also seems like the would draft 1 very high 1st or 2nd round every year. Were those EA's drafts (his approach I should say) and then JR stopped with that?



Well get that out of your head. The Giants can't afford and aren't going to draft a DE with the 2nd pick. We have way too much money tied up at DE. If a Khalil Mack, Clowney type player was there it's a possibility. Chubb isn't close to those guys.


Can't argue with anything you said Rick but, I was thinking more if (for whatever reason) Gettlemen, trades down a few spots gets some more picks and then takes Chubb lower in the round? I don't think any of it will happen ... just dreamin' out loud (on the keyboard).
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mrvax : 2/17/2018 12:56 am : link
In comment 13834996 Big Rick in FL said:
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Well get that out of your head. The Giants can't afford and aren't going to draft a DE with the 2nd pick. We have way too much money tied up at DE. If a Khalil Mack, Clowney type player was there it's a possibility. Chubb isn't close to those guys.


Rick, if the Giants drafted Chubb in 2018, in 2019 they could say bye-bye to JPP and save $9.5m - Chubb's salary.
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est1986 : 2/17/2018 9:54 am : link
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with Darnold to the Giants. But this is just silly.



Why is it silly? Should every mock draft be the same?



It's silly that Barkley is going to last to #9 and be drafted behind Josh Jackson and Calvin Ridley. You can say the Browns might fall in love with Mayfield at #1, but Barkley that low is nuts.


Right. So it is silly because of 1 thing. Barkley isn’t at the spot you see him at in every other mock. Got it.
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Gatorade Dunk : 2/17/2018 12:04 pm : link
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Well get that out of your head. The Giants can't afford and aren't going to draft a DE with the 2nd pick. We have way too much money tied up at DE. If a Khalil Mack, Clowney type player was there it's a possibility. Chubb isn't close to those guys.



Rick, if the Giants drafted Chubb in 2018, in 2019 they could say bye-bye to JPP and save $9.5m - Chubb's salary.

Great, they can use they can carry both for 2018 and then save $2-3MM in 2019 by doing that. What a windfall!

And they'd still need a successor to Eli at that point. Maybe they can sign one for for $2-3MM.
Until Eli and JPP are off this team  
Jimmy Googs : 2/17/2018 3:08 pm : link
they are taking up both playing space and cap space.

And that ain't that helping...
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allstarjim : 2/17/2018 4:02 pm : link
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with Darnold to the Giants. But this is just silly.



Why is it silly? Should every mock draft be the same?



It's silly that Barkley is going to last to #9 and be drafted behind Josh Jackson and Calvin Ridley. You can say the Browns might fall in love with Mayfield at #1, but Barkley that low is nuts.



Right. So it is silly because of 1 thing. Barkley isn’t at the spot you see him at in every other mock. Got it.


Why do you care so much what I think? And Barkley is not falling to 9, that's dumb. Unless he's snorted some coke off a hooker's ass the night before the combine, he'll be gone in the top 5 picks. This is not debatable and has zero to do with other mocks. It has everything to do with him being the best player in this draft. Dgaf what the mocks say.
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