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BBI: Do you take this proposed draft day trade with Buffalo?

Emlen'sGremlins : 2/17/2018 5:22 pm
According to 24/7 Sports the Bills are supposedly all in on Josh Rosen and could make a very attractive offer to the Giants in exchange for their 1st Round pick (#2 overall). They are suggesting that it could look something like this.

- Bills 2018 two 1st Round picks (#'s 21 and 22 overall)
- Bills 2018 2nd Round pick (#50 overall)
- Bills starting LT Cordy Glenn
- Bills 2019 1st Round pick
- Bills 2019 2nd Round pick

BBI, would you do this deal?
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Give it a break Milton  
figgy2989 : 2/17/2018 7:44 pm : link
people are allowed to have a negative opinion on Rosen.
RE: Give it a break Milton  
Milton : 2/17/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13835412 figgy2989 said:
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people are allowed to have a negative opinion on Rosen.
Sy has a positive opinion of Rosen.
p.s.--People are allowed to have whatever opinion they want on every prospect (positive, negative, and anywhere in between) and so am I. Are we not allowed to disagree with each other because of that? Isn't that the whole fucking point of a message board like this!
Keep fighting the good fight then...  
figgy2989 : 2/17/2018 8:02 pm : link
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Sy'56 : 2/17/2018 8:12 pm : link
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I've leaned Rosen for awhile, but I am holding off on final answer for now. Still some to see, and his medicals are worrisome. Darnold has more upside, I'll say that

I don't get the "upside" argument. Darnold is more likely to be the next Ben Roethlisberger than Rosen, but Rosen is more likely to be the next Peyton Manning, so who really has more upside? Does Darnold have more upside than Peyton did coming out of college (or Dan Marino)?

Rosen just turned 21 and it's as if people think he's already maxed out. He is the most coachable QB in the draft, so I expect a lot of growth between now and the time he is winning Super Bowls for the Giants! A QB's upside isn't limited simply because he's a pure pocket passer and is no danger to run for twenty yards at a time.

Rosen will never be the threat to run that Darnold is, but Darnold will never be the natural thrower that Rosen is. And since throwing the ball is job#1 for a QB, I'll take Rosen's upside over any QB in the draft.


Thats fine. Like I said it is going to be a toss up.

But I said the same thing about Sam Bradford, just unsure about his ability to hold up. And got criticized for it strongly too.

Rosen is the best looking thrower I have seen in a long time. But his accuracy isn't better than Darnold. His athletic ability isn't better. My guess on who holds up better will be Darnold.

If Darnold was not full of too-aggressive decision making in 2017 that led to his turnovers, he would likely be a sure thing #1 guy on. my list. Trust me, I don't overlook that....if anything that is what weighs him down. But physically Darnold has the advantage.
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GiantTuff1 : 2/17/2018 8:15 pm : link
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I've leaned Rosen for awhile, but I am holding off on final answer for now. Still some to see, and his medicals are worrisome. Darnold has more upside, I'll say that

I don't get the "upside" argument. Darnold is more likely to be the next Ben Roethlisberger than Rosen, but Rosen is more likely to be the next Peyton Manning, so who really has more upside? Does Darnold have more upside than Peyton did coming out of college (or Dan Marino)?

Rosen just turned 21 and it's as if people think he's already maxed out. He is the most coachable QB in the draft, so I expect a lot of growth between now and the time he is winning Super Bowls for the Giants! A QB's upside isn't limited simply because he's a pure pocket passer and is no danger to run for twenty yards at a time.

Rosen will never be the threat to run that Darnold is, but Darnold will never be the natural thrower that Rosen is. And since throwing the ball is job#1 for a QB, I'll take Rosen's upside over any QB in the draft.


Thanks Sy.

I’m of similar mind on Rosen after doing research on him. Honestly I’m sold, I hope he is there and the guy.

And interesting point Milton, from a cerebral standpoint I think Rosen is as smart a person as Peyton was coming out. That alone is enough to get me excited, and I agree that if he physically has a limited ceiling but cerebrally is like Peyton, Rogers or Brady, run to the podium.
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WillVAB : 2/17/2018 8:36 pm : link
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I've leaned Rosen for awhile, but I am holding off on final answer for now. Still some to see, and his medicals are worrisome. Darnold has more upside, I'll say that

I don't get the "upside" argument. Darnold is more likely to be the next Ben Roethlisberger than Rosen, but Rosen is more likely to be the next Peyton Manning, so who really has more upside? Does Darnold have more upside than Peyton did coming out of college (or Dan Marino)?

Rosen just turned 21 and it's as if people think he's already maxed out. He is the most coachable QB in the draft, so I expect a lot of growth between now and the time he is winning Super Bowls for the Giants! A QB's upside isn't limited simply because he's a pure pocket passer and is no danger to run for twenty yards at a time.

Rosen will never be the threat to run that Darnold is, but Darnold will never be the natural thrower that Rosen is. And since throwing the ball is job#1 for a QB, I'll take Rosen's upside over any QB in the draft.



Thats fine. Like I said it is going to be a toss up.

But I said the same thing about Sam Bradford, just unsure about his ability to hold up. And got criticized for it strongly too.

Rosen is the best looking thrower I have seen in a long time. But his accuracy isn't better than Darnold. His athletic ability isn't better. My guess on who holds up better will be Darnold.

If Darnold was not full of too-aggressive decision making in 2017 that led to his turnovers, he would likely be a sure thing #1 guy on. my list. Trust me, I don't overlook that....if anything that is what weighs him down. But physically Darnold has the advantage.


Darnold is not more accurate than Rosen. Darnold is nowhere near the passer Rosen is.
I  
capegman : 2/17/2018 8:41 pm : link
would take that trade in a heartbeat. But I would go with Eli for 2- 3 more years and draft Barkley right now as it stands.
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Sy'56 : 2/17/2018 9:10 pm : link
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I've leaned Rosen for awhile, but I am holding off on final answer for now. Still some to see, and his medicals are worrisome. Darnold has more upside, I'll say that

I don't get the "upside" argument. Darnold is more likely to be the next Ben Roethlisberger than Rosen, but Rosen is more likely to be the next Peyton Manning, so who really has more upside? Does Darnold have more upside than Peyton did coming out of college (or Dan Marino)?

Rosen just turned 21 and it's as if people think he's already maxed out. He is the most coachable QB in the draft, so I expect a lot of growth between now and the time he is winning Super Bowls for the Giants! A QB's upside isn't limited simply because he's a pure pocket passer and is no danger to run for twenty yards at a time.

Rosen will never be the threat to run that Darnold is, but Darnold will never be the natural thrower that Rosen is. And since throwing the ball is job#1 for a QB, I'll take Rosen's upside over any QB in the draft.



Thats fine. Like I said it is going to be a toss up.

But I said the same thing about Sam Bradford, just unsure about his ability to hold up. And got criticized for it strongly too.

Rosen is the best looking thrower I have seen in a long time. But his accuracy isn't better than Darnold. His athletic ability isn't better. My guess on who holds up better will be Darnold.

If Darnold was not full of too-aggressive decision making in 2017 that led to his turnovers, he would likely be a sure thing #1 guy on. my list. Trust me, I don't overlook that....if anything that is what weighs him down. But physically Darnold has the advantage.



Darnold is not more accurate than Rosen. Darnold is nowhere near the passer Rosen is.


I've watched every throw by the 2 of them from 2017.

Darnold has better accuracy numbers 15+ yards, Rosen is better under 15. They are close.

I think it is a draw. Rosen has more upside as a thrower, he is very clean and crisp. But man...there were a lot of throws where I was unpleasantly suprised. Texas A&M in particular.
I agree that it's unlike that such a deal would be offered,  
Ira : 2/17/2018 9:16 pm : link
but if offered we should definitely take it. That's a lot of significant assets.
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WillVAB : 2/17/2018 9:25 pm : link
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I've leaned Rosen for awhile, but I am holding off on final answer for now. Still some to see, and his medicals are worrisome. Darnold has more upside, I'll say that

I don't get the "upside" argument. Darnold is more likely to be the next Ben Roethlisberger than Rosen, but Rosen is more likely to be the next Peyton Manning, so who really has more upside? Does Darnold have more upside than Peyton did coming out of college (or Dan Marino)?

Rosen just turned 21 and it's as if people think he's already maxed out. He is the most coachable QB in the draft, so I expect a lot of growth between now and the time he is winning Super Bowls for the Giants! A QB's upside isn't limited simply because he's a pure pocket passer and is no danger to run for twenty yards at a time.

Rosen will never be the threat to run that Darnold is, but Darnold will never be the natural thrower that Rosen is. And since throwing the ball is job#1 for a QB, I'll take Rosen's upside over any QB in the draft.



Thats fine. Like I said it is going to be a toss up.

But I said the same thing about Sam Bradford, just unsure about his ability to hold up. And got criticized for it strongly too.

Rosen is the best looking thrower I have seen in a long time. But his accuracy isn't better than Darnold. His athletic ability isn't better. My guess on who holds up better will be Darnold.

If Darnold was not full of too-aggressive decision making in 2017 that led to his turnovers, he would likely be a sure thing #1 guy on. my list. Trust me, I don't overlook that....if anything that is what weighs him down. But physically Darnold has the advantage.



Darnold is not more accurate than Rosen. Darnold is nowhere near the passer Rosen is.



I've watched every throw by the 2 of them from 2017.

Darnold has better accuracy numbers 15+ yards, Rosen is better under 15. They are close.

I think it is a draw. Rosen has more upside as a thrower, he is very clean and crisp. But man...there were a lot of throws where I was unpleasantly suprised. Texas A&M in particular.


Everything about Rosen in the pocket is better than Darnold. His technique as a passer is better and his accuracy is better.

The numbers don’t mean squat. It’s college and Rosen played with an inferior cast across the board.

I’ve been in the trade down camp since October so I have no skin in the game. But if the Giants stand pat at 2 and go QB, Rosen should be the guy. The only upside Darnold has is mobility.
Mike Leach was on Sirius NFL today  
Earl the goat : 2/17/2018 9:55 pm : link
FWIW. He said Rosen should’ve stayed in school another year and Darnold should absolutely be the first QB taken
He also said Luke Faulk will be a very good QB in the NFL
If the Bills offer that deal...  
EricJ : 2/17/2018 10:06 pm : link
then someone in Buffalo is going to get fired before that 2nd pick is chosen.
RE: Mike Leach was on Sirius NFL today  
Milton : 2/17/2018 10:07 pm : link
In comment 13835470 Earl the goat said:
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FWIW. He said Rosen should’ve stayed in school another year and Darnold should absolutely be the first QB taken.
In terms of money and draft stock (and risk of injury), they both did the right thing. In terms of growing their game, I think Darnold had more reason to stay in school than Rosen.
I hate trading down  
djm : 2/17/2018 10:27 pm : link
But that would be a tough deal to pass up.
How would we find 8 players to cut  
markky : 2/17/2018 10:36 pm : link
to make room for these draft picks? (sarcasm off)
Yankee fans that call in to FAN  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/18/2018 12:57 am : link
Propose more realistic trades than this.
Problem  
Dragon : 2/18/2018 1:04 am : link
Is that not one of those 2018 picks is inside the top 12, and the Bills are only getting better for 2019 not worse. Your talking about moving from the second pick to the back end of the first round. The Bills have to move up somehow in this draft picks 21 & 22 are way to far away from the second pick. The QB value chart is very simply whatever a team decides to give up to get the player they want.
Roster  
Dragon : 2/18/2018 1:08 am : link
Spots for 40+ players not a problem for this Giants they may have 10-12 good NFL players on the present roster.
Gotta answer two questions.  
MOOPS : 2/18/2018 1:19 am : link
Is the number 2 pick your franchise QB?
Can Eli give you 2 quality years.
If you deem there's one franchise QB in the draft and he goes number 1, you make the trade.
The haul won't be as good as proposed (knock out 2019s # 2).
But this year you can address the OL with 2 high picks, get a speed rusher and add speed and quality at LB in the top 50.
Then you still have your own 3rd round pick at # 66 and the rest of the draft (hopefully adding a # 4 or 5 comp).
And next year 2 first round picks.
Pretty tempting.
That's a joke...  
M.S. : 2/18/2018 7:28 am : link

...and way too much Buffalo is giving up.

But if they want to offer such an absurd amount for the #2 pick, Giants should jump all over it.
Either Buffalo will be picking high next year  
NoPeanutz : 2/18/2018 8:04 am : link
Or the Giants will. If by some miracle the Giants are also picking low next year, as a result of the pieces they drafted with extra BUF picks, then they don't need to pick at #2 in 2019.
Emlen: you forget to add the word  
Jimmy Googs : 2/18/2018 8:26 am : link
"serious" to the end of the title thread...
To be fair...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/18/2018 9:26 am : link
it seems that the posters who keep getting drawn in by 247 sports are consistently terrible.

Not sure why we keep getting that shit site linked here.
RE: To be fair...  
BigBlueShock : 2/18/2018 9:39 am : link
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it seems that the posters who keep getting drawn in by 247 sports are consistently terrible.

Not sure why we keep getting that shit site linked here.

Can’t wait for today’s updated 247 Sports trade proposal thread. There seems to be a daily thread and the proposal gets more ludicrous each day.

“Would BBI make this trade? Giants trade the number two overall pick to Buffalo for Buffalos’ entire drafts in both 2018 and 2019. Buffalo also sends Cordy Glenn, McCoy and cash to the Giants”-247 Sports
Yes.  
idiotsavant : 2/18/2018 9:51 am : link
It's, in the end, about entertainment over and above the future w/l.

What type of team you enjoy watching

...and all those picks, with the right GM, get you back to what we enjoy.
Its about winning championships!!!!  
Chris L. : 2/18/2018 10:12 am : link
If you have watched any of the super bowls over the last 20 years you know that you need an impact player at the QB position to win in the playoffs. When you are lucky enough to have the #2 pick in the best QB draft to come along in the last 10 years and your QB is 37 years old you DON'T trade the pick. Get your franchise QB. By the way the deals offered are going to get better and better as we approach draft night. It should tell you something when a team is willing to trade a ton of assets to obtain your pick. Franchise QB's don't grow on trees!! Quantity doesn't trump quality when it comes to the QB position.
RE: RE: Mike Leach was on Sirius NFL today  
est1986 : 2/18/2018 10:58 am : link
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FWIW. He said Rosen should’ve stayed in school another year and Darnold should absolutely be the first QB taken.

In terms of money and draft stock (and risk of injury), they both did the right thing. In terms of growing their game, I think Darnold had more reason to stay in school than Rosen.


USC coaching staff sucks. Darnold will learn 10x more behind Eli or on any NFL team than he would at USC.
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est1986 : 2/18/2018 11:13 am : link
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I've leaned Rosen for awhile, but I am holding off on final answer for now. Still some to see, and his medicals are worrisome. Darnold has more upside, I'll say that

I don't get the "upside" argument. Darnold is more likely to be the next Ben Roethlisberger than Rosen, but Rosen is more likely to be the next Peyton Manning, so who really has more upside? Does Darnold have more upside than Peyton did coming out of college (or Dan Marino)?

Rosen just turned 21 and it's as if people think he's already maxed out. He is the most coachable QB in the draft, so I expect a lot of growth between now and the time he is winning Super Bowls for the Giants! A QB's upside isn't limited simply because he's a pure pocket passer and is no danger to run for twenty yards at a time.

Rosen will never be the threat to run that Darnold is, but Darnold will never be the natural thrower that Rosen is. And since throwing the ball is job#1 for a QB, I'll take Rosen's upside over any QB in the draft.



Thats fine. Like I said it is going to be a toss up.

But I said the same thing about Sam Bradford, just unsure about his ability to hold up. And got criticized for it strongly too.

Rosen is the best looking thrower I have seen in a long time. But his accuracy isn't better than Darnold. His athletic ability isn't better. My guess on who holds up better will be Darnold.

If Darnold was not full of too-aggressive decision making in 2017 that led to his turnovers, he would likely be a sure thing #1 guy on. my list. Trust me, I don't overlook that....if anything that is what weighs him down. But physically Darnold has the advantage.



Darnold is not more accurate than Rosen. Darnold is nowhere near the passer Rosen is.



I've watched every throw by the 2 of them from 2017.

Darnold has better accuracy numbers 15+ yards, Rosen is better under 15. They are close.

I think it is a draw. Rosen has more upside as a thrower, he is very clean and crisp. But man...there were a lot of throws where I was unpleasantly suprised. Texas A&M in particular.



Everything about Rosen in the pocket is better than Darnold. His technique as a passer is better and his accuracy is better.

The numbers don’t mean squat. It’s college and Rosen played with an inferior cast across the board


Disagree that “Everythig about Rosen in the pocket is better than Darnold”
Darnold can avoid the rush, move in and out of the pocket, and make a throw while taking a hit or with defenders in his face WAY better than Rosen.

And Disagree “..Rosen played with an inferior cast across the board”
Was USC better than UCLA... yeah... But Darnold’s OL was dog shit this year... he had Ro Jo who I like a lot at 34. He is a 1500+ yard back and Darnold still threw for over 4000 yards

Darnold used to play Linebacker, Rosen used to play Tennis.

Darnold is tough SOB at QB and Rosen was in concussion protocol for what would have been about 4 weeks in an NFL season.
I called this trade over a month ago  
Glover : 2/18/2018 11:42 am : link
And it made sense to me, and hopefully makes sense to the Bills and Giants. I didn't expect the Corey Glenn piece, but I said all the picks, and I did actually think they might get more. So there you have it.

Drop down to 22 and still get the best QB in the draft, Lamar Jackson.
RE: I called this trade over a month ago  
BigBlueShock : 2/18/2018 11:47 am : link
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And it made sense to me, and hopefully makes sense to the Bills and Giants. I didn't expect the Corey Glenn piece, but I said all the picks, and I did actually think they might get more. So there you have it.

Drop down to 22 and still get the best QB in the draft, Lamar Jackson.

“So there you have it”? Have what? An absolute abomination of a website agreeing with you?

I’m not sure that’s something to be pounding your chest about...
RE: I called this trade over a month ago  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/18/2018 11:57 am : link
In comment 13835616 Glover said:
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And it made sense to me, and hopefully makes sense to the Bills and Giants. I didn't expect the Corey Glenn piece, but I said all the picks, and I did actually think they might get more. So there you have it.

Drop down to 22 and still get the best QB in the draft, Lamar Jackson.

RE: You would have to consider it  
NYDCBlue : 2/18/2018 12:40 pm : link
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I would take it.....if Webb is a possibly long-term solution at QB.


Consider it? You skip the whole way down the hall towards signing the paperwork.

That is a complete fleecing! I would LOVE THAT!
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NYDCBlue : 2/18/2018 12:47 pm : link
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I would take it.....if Webb is a possibly long-term solution at QB.



Consider it? You skip the whole way down the hall towards signing the paperwork.

That is a complete fleecing! I would LOVE THAT!


I should add what I consider fair.

I would start negotiations for the 2 firsts this year. Next year's first and second.

If they balk, I would be willing to drop the second to as low as a fourth. Heck if the just won't budge, I'd accept just the three firsts.
No  
Phil in LA : 2/18/2018 12:50 pm : link
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RE: On the points system  
NYDCBlue : 2/18/2018 12:54 pm : link
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Equal value would be
Both firsts 2018
Both seconds 2018
And their 3rd 2018
Not interested in Cordy Glenn with his cap hit and injury history


If we trade down we are potentially giving up the chance to draft a franchise QB. I am unwilling to consider any trade down proposal that does not include a 2019 first round pick. We can use the two first rounders next year to move up and get a QB if we believe in one of them.
Thats an interesting offer  
Breeze_94 : 2/18/2018 12:59 pm : link
It would be hard to pass up, unless Darnold is available
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I've leaned Rosen for awhile, but I am holding off on final answer for now. Still some to see, and his medicals are worrisome. Darnold has more upside, I'll say that

I don't get the "upside" argument. Darnold is more likely to be the next Ben Roethlisberger than Rosen, but Rosen is more likely to be the next Peyton Manning, so who really has more upside? Does Darnold have more upside than Peyton did coming out of college (or Dan Marino)?

Rosen just turned 21 and it's as if people think he's already maxed out. He is the most coachable QB in the draft, so I expect a lot of growth between now and the time he is winning Super Bowls for the Giants! A QB's upside isn't limited simply because he's a pure pocket passer and is no danger to run for twenty yards at a time.

Rosen will never be the threat to run that Darnold is, but Darnold will never be the natural thrower that Rosen is. And since throwing the ball is job#1 for a QB, I'll take Rosen's upside over any QB in the draft.



Thats fine. Like I said it is going to be a toss up.

But I said the same thing about Sam Bradford, just unsure about his ability to hold up. And got criticized for it strongly too.

Rosen is the best looking thrower I have seen in a long time. But his accuracy isn't better than Darnold. His athletic ability isn't better. My guess on who holds up better will be Darnold.

If Darnold was not full of too-aggressive decision making in 2017 that led to his turnovers, he would likely be a sure thing #1 guy on. my list. Trust me, I don't overlook that....if anything that is what weighs him down. But physically Darnold has the advantage.



Darnold is not more accurate than Rosen. Darnold is nowhere near the passer Rosen is.



I've watched every throw by the 2 of them from 2017.

Darnold has better accuracy numbers 15+ yards, Rosen is better under 15. They are close.

I think it is a draw. Rosen has more upside as a thrower, he is very clean and crisp. But man...there were a lot of throws where I was unpleasantly suprised. Texas A&M in particular.



Everything about Rosen in the pocket is better than Darnold. His technique as a passer is better and his accuracy is better.

The numbers don’t mean squat. It’s college and Rosen played with an inferior cast across the board.

I’ve been in the trade down camp since October so I have no skin in the game. But if the Giants stand pat at 2 and go QB, Rosen should be the guy. The only upside Darnold has is mobility.


There is so much incorrect in this post. For one, Rosen's OL was much better than Darnold's. It's not close. Darnold was constantly throwing under duress or dirty pockets, Rosen threw from clean pockets often. And sometimes, those throws, even with a clean pocket, weren't indicative of this super human accurate QB everyone keeps talking about. There are some serious misses, under no duress. As Sy said, Darnold is more accurate as a downfield passer. I don't even think that's debatable if you've studied both of their tape.
RE: Yankee fans that call in to FAN  
njm : 2/18/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13835514 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Propose more realistic trades than this.


But not Mets fans. :>)
I'd make that trade though not sure it's realistic  
njm : 2/18/2018 1:55 pm : link
You'd probably end up with an OL that would give Eli at least 2 more years. And other positions would be strengthened as well. Webb would get another year to see if he's the future, and you'd have ammunition to move up in 2019 if he isn't.
Here's What I Think About This Trade  
Jim in NH : 2/18/2018 4:06 pm : link
When my son was 6, I took him to a Red Sox game. Bob Stanley was called in in relief in the sixth inning. They put his face up on the scoreboard.

My son's face brightened.

"Dad! I have a great idea!"

"Let's trade Bob Stanley for Dave Winfield and Don Mattingly"

Sure I would do this trade. Except the Bills won't.
RE: Yankee fans that call in to FAN  
Dankbeerman : 2/18/2018 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13835514 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Propose more realistic trades than this.


When you get Giancarlo and $ for nothing Yankee fans are allowed to belive anything can happen.
Yes  
jeff57 : 2/18/2018 5:26 pm : link
That’s too much to turn down. But I don’t think they’d give up that much.
Absolutely, but do not think that deal will be on the  
TMS : 2/18/2018 7:14 pm : link
table. Unless they believe they can win it all with Rosen right away. Think ELI gets at least 2 years to make or break it . Those type of picks could get us back in the mix next year.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/18/2018 8:24 pm : link
I'm chuckling at the number of fools who actually are responding seriously here.

That trade and that website are complete garbage. The trade offer doesn't exist! It is some schmuck's attempt to draw clicks and he's apparently done his job well.
RE: LOL..  
Diver_Down : 2/18/2018 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13835806 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I'm chuckling at the number of fools who actually are responding seriously here.

That trade and that website are complete garbage. The trade offer doesn't exist! It is some schmuck's attempt to draw clicks and he's apparently done his job well.


Not just this thread, but the same trash was linked/discussed in 2 other threads.
Link to the other threads - ( New Window )
Think this type of trade could appeal to DG  
TMS : 2/18/2018 9:00 pm : link
and Shurmur if the plan is to go with ELI for a few more years and try and develop Webb. DG is a draft guru and those are a lot of high end picks that could change a team fast. If we have the right coaching staff.
And yet...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/18/2018 9:16 pm : link
Diver, just one post later - there's another dimwit talking like this is a serious trade offer.

If the trade is real, you'd do it in an instant, but only after you tell a top Guard be's going to be the highest paid OL and you take the next 27 years of #1's from the Bills....
RE: And yet...  
Diver_Down : 2/18/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 13835827 FatMan in Charlotte said:
Quote:
Diver, just one post later - there's another dimwit talking like this is a serious trade offer.

If the trade is real, you'd do it in an instant, but only after you tell a top Guard be's going to be the highest paid OL and you take the next 27 years of #1's from the Bills....


It is as if the scenario and accompanying dialog is a barometer to see who qualifies for admission into DENSA.
DENSA Test - ( New Window )
RE: And yet...  
MOOPS : 2/19/2018 3:40 am : link
In comment 13835827 FatMan in Charlotte said:
Quote:
Diver, just one post later - there's another dimwit talking like this is a serious trade offer.

If the trade is real, you'd do it in an instant, but only after you tell a top Guard be's going to be the highest paid OL and you take the next 27 years of #1's from the Bills....


Hey grouchy grinch.
!2 first round trades in the 2017 draft.
Between 2005 and 2014 there were 73 trades involving 123 first round draft picks.
This is like the third of these threads involving just Buffalo this week. I don't think anyone is taking them seriously, but no harm in speculating on what a trade for the second pick might bring in return and whether it would be doable.
Get used to it because you have nine more weeks until the draft and there will be a whole bunch more of these.
No reason to resort to name calling because you don't approve of the thread.
MOOPS...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/19/2018 8:18 am : link
It isn't even speculation - it is fiction. Here's the "supposed" trade offer:

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Bills 2018 two 1st Round picks (#'s 21 and 22 overall)
- Bills 2018 2nd Round pick (#50 overall)
- Bills starting LT Cordy Glenn
- Bills 2019 1st Round pick
- Bills 2019 2nd Round pick


There's supposed to be any type of "serious discussion" around that? Look at it again - 3 1st round picks. Two second round picks and a player.

You think I'm grouchy for people taking it seriously? No. I'm fucking flabbergasted that people actually exist who give credence to the steaming pile of shit.

Absolute fucking idiots.
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