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NFT: Knicks: Noah/Hornacek incident was physical

DanMetroMan : 2/18/2018 10:06 am
Joakim Noah reportedly had a physical altercation with Knicks head coach Jeff Hornacek.

This was quite a while ago, but it's clear that Noah's days in New York are numbered. While no punches were thrown, Hornacek reportedly shoved Noah first before the two had to be separated. If Noah does part ways with the Knicks, the Wolves would be the most likely destination. "I know [Noah] wants to play. He wants to help win. He’s a great dude," Jimmy Butler said of his former teammate. "I talked to him a little bit, not a lot. All in all, I want him to be happy."
Source: New York Daily News Feb 18 - 9:44 AM
If he wants to win  
Earl the goat : 2/18/2018 10:12 am : link
Then he should accept a buyout End of story

He took the money from Phil because that’s all he was interested in
Suspension and injury ruined his first two years here
I don’t feel bad for him and his 72 million dollars
Perry and Mills can hopefully come to common grounds with Noah and get him out of here
RE: If he wants to win  
PhiPsi125 : 2/18/2018 10:14 am : link
In comment 13835588 Earl the goat said:
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Then he should accept a buyout End of story

He took the money from Phil because that’s all he was interested in
Suspension and injury ruined his first two years here
I don’t feel bad for him and his 72 million dollars
Perry and Mills can hopefully come to common grounds with Noah and get him out of here


Periods are your friends. Use them.
Bossman  
Jay on the Island : 2/18/2018 10:16 am : link
pities the fool that uses periods
I despise Hornacek.  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2018 10:31 am : link
Fuck him and his fake tough guy routine.
Shoving players?  
ajr2456 : 2/18/2018 11:23 am : link
How did that not get him fired?
Periods are your friends  
tangled up in blue : 2/18/2018 11:47 am : link
especially if you haven't used protection
Franchise is a mess  
Reeses Pieces : 2/18/2018 11:51 am : link
DMM, do you recall who was reporting that NY had Mitchell near the top of their board? I'm pretty sure "staff" liked Mitchell and Jackson wanted Frank. Was this the case?
Noah  
TyreeHelmet : 2/18/2018 11:54 am : link
Force him to play point for 48 minutes a game to close out the year. That will really rev up the Tank.

Seriously though, this guy has not only been suspended for PEDs but gotten physical with a coach. There’s no way for the Knicks to get money back/ void his contract?

The NBA contracts amaze me. You have a guy like Eddy Curry who got too fat and out of shape to play and he still collected every dollar. The league should look at a way to reward players who outperform their contracts by being able to redo deals and also go after guys like Noah who are not close to living up to their contracts.
RE: Noah  
ajr2456 : 2/18/2018 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13835625 TyreeHelmet said:
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Force him to play point for 48 minutes a game to close out the year. That will really rev up the Tank.

Seriously though, this guy has not only been suspended for PEDs but gotten physical with a coach. There’s no way for the Knicks to get money back/ void his contract?

The NBA contracts amaze me. You have a guy like Eddy Curry who got too fat and out of shape to play and he still collected every dollar. The league should look at a way to reward players who outperform their contracts by being able to redo deals and also go after guys like Noah who are not close to living up to their contracts.


If it's true Hornacek shoved him first, not sure there is much the Knicks can do. No shot the NBAPA would let any action come easy.
RE: Noah  
larryflower37 : 2/18/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13835625 TyreeHelmet said:
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Force him to play point for 48 minutes a game to close out the year. That will really rev up the Tank.

Seriously though, this guy has not only been suspended for PEDs but gotten physical with a coach. There’s no way for the Knicks to get money back/ void his contract?

The NBA contracts amaze me. You have a guy like Eddy Curry who got too fat and out of shape to play and he still collected every dollar. The league should look at a way to reward players who outperform their contracts by being able to redo deals and also go after guys like Noah who are not close to living up to their contracts.

It is on owners to sign better deals. NFL owners can sign guaranteed deals today they chose not to.
Everyone except Dolan and Jackson knew it was a horrible deal when it was signed.
Until Dolan stays away it will happen again.
RE: RE: Noah  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13835630 larryflower37 said:
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In comment 13835625 TyreeHelmet said:


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Force him to play point for 48 minutes a game to close out the year. That will really rev up the Tank.

Seriously though, this guy has not only been suspended for PEDs but gotten physical with a coach. There’s no way for the Knicks to get money back/ void his contract?

The NBA contracts amaze me. You have a guy like Eddy Curry who got too fat and out of shape to play and he still collected every dollar. The league should look at a way to reward players who outperform their contracts by being able to redo deals and also go after guys like Noah who are not close to living up to their contracts.


It is on owners to sign better deals. NFL owners can sign guaranteed deals today they chose not to.
Everyone except Dolan and Jackson knew it was a horrible deal when it was signed.
Until Dolan stays away it will happen again.


By all accounts Dolan has stayed away, how can you blame Dolan for what Phil did?
By all accounts Dolan has stayed away  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2018 12:18 pm : link
Love how it is always Dolan fault, blame him for hiring the wrong people but you can't blame Dolan for the moves the guys makes
RE: I despise Hornacek.  
NYDCBlue : 2/18/2018 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13835596 bceagle05 said:
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Fuck him and his fake tough guy routine.


This fake tough guy is the reason we had to ship Hermangomez out of town just when it seemed minutes would open up for him with the Porzingas injury.

You sumed it up well. Can't wait till he us gone. The only good thing about him is we need to tank, and he sucks so bad he can't help but assist in that effort....
RE: Shoving players?  
NYDCBlue : 2/18/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13835607 ajr2456 said:
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How did that not get him fired?


Remember the stories last year about him coaching mean girls style by basicly passing along negative messages to player A through a third party such as player B. Almost as though he was to cowardly to make his points face to face? I really hate this bumb.
RE: I despise Hornacek.  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13835596 bceagle05 said:
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Fuck him and his fake tough guy routine.


I bet he starts mudiay or Frank but the minute 1 of them make a mistake he brings in jack...
I defy Red Auerbach to win  
HomerJones45 : 2/18/2018 1:10 pm : link
With the collection of stiffs the Knicks have and bring in.
RE: I defy Red Auerbach to win  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2018 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13835669 HomerJones45 said:
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With the collection of stiffs the Knicks have and bring in.


Go look at Miami roster, are they really that much more talented than the knicks before porzingis got hurt?
I don't even care about win/loss record.  
bceagle05 : 2/18/2018 1:37 pm : link
How bout just having a young player improve on his watch? A guy like KP will put up good numbers for any coach. Hernangomez went backwards Even Ron Baker went backwards, and he didn't have far to go. Ntilikina has gotten worse as the season has gone along. He's not a developer, which is what a rebuilding team needs - he's an Xs and Os guy, who sucks at Xs and Os.
RE: RE: I defy Red Auerbach to win  
djm : 2/18/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13835676 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13835669 HomerJones45 said:


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With the collection of stiffs the Knicks have and bring in.



Go look at Miami roster, are they really that much more talented than the knicks before porzingis got hurt?


Yes they are that much more talented. Better PGs by a disgustingly wide margin. Same with small forward. Better depth at power forward. Better d at center.
Nothing says Stockholm Syndrome more than Knick fans  
arniefez : 2/18/2018 2:33 pm : link
Defending Dolan. 18 years, 11 coaches, 6 GMs, 100+ players and 1 playoff series win when he got the last half NBA seasons out of Jason Kidd and Rasheed Wallace. The Knicks are a laughing stock and there’s no hope of that changing any time soon.
Help us....  
GiantsUA : 2/18/2018 2:44 pm : link
This is really bad
Dear Lord some fans are so dramatic  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2018 3:03 pm : link
This is exactly what the knicks need, build with youth, this is why you can't rebuild in New York fans freak out because of losing..

Laughing stock? They have a 22 year old young all star stop freaking out, no hope? They ha e a lot of hope
RE: Dear Lord some fans are so dramatic  
Giantology : 2/18/2018 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13835705 nygiants16 said:
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This is exactly what the knicks need, build with youth, this is why you can't rebuild in New York fans freak out because of losing..

Laughing stock? They have a 22 year old young all star stop freaking out, no hope? They ha e a lot of hope


Jeff Hornacek is not exactly what this team needs. And I don't see anyone freaking out here because of losing, specifically.
Jeff hornacek will be gone  
nygiants16 : 2/18/2018 3:08 pm : link
And Perry will be able to pick his own coach
RE: Jeff hornacek will be gone  
djm : 2/18/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13835707 nygiants16 said:
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And Perry will be able to pick his own coach


Yeah even though I think Miami is more talented they are also well coached and have been ever since spoelstra was hired.
There’s an idiot Knick fan who thinks Perry  
arniefez : 2/18/2018 4:09 pm : link
Is going to get to pick the coach. Phil Jackson didn’t get to pick his own coach but Perry will. That’s hilarious. There’s no hope for the Knicks. NONE.
Phil Jackson didn't pick Derek Fisher? Really?  
Greg from LI : 2/18/2018 4:25 pm : link
Pull the other one, Randal
I'm dying to know what changes  
Dave on the UWS : 2/18/2018 6:17 pm : link
to the rotation is he going to make? It's all about the backcourt for the rest of the season ( or should be)
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