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Rick in PA : 2/18/2018 9:43 pm
I bought a new house in FL. It's less than a year old.

Bought 15K of new furniture from a local furniture store. A couple of the drawers had what looked like sawdust when it was delivered in January so I just vacuumed it out.

A few weeks later I opened the drawer again and to my surprise it had a significant amount of what appeared to be sawdust.

Called the store and someone came out. They said it appeared to be powder post beetles.

I did some research on powder post beetles. There were probably eggs in the wood before the furniture was made. The eggs hatch. The larva eat into the wood and do pretty much all the damage. Most of the frass (sawdust) is present when the adults chew their way out of the wood. So I’m assuming most of the adults exited the first few weeks it was in my house. The adults, that can fly, mate and lay eggs in unfinished wood and the cycle repeats.

From what I've read it could be from 1 to 10 years before the adults exit the wood again depending on conditions.

It looks like this has created a time bomb in my house.

The furniture store says they will replace the piece of furniture but isn't going to do anything to treat my house.

While I assume the furniture store didn't know the piece was infected even though there was sawdust in the drawer they sold the furniture, delivered it to my house, and was in no real hurry to remove it from my house.

Is the furniture stores responsible for treatment and any future damage?
Had to open this thread  
IIT : 2/18/2018 10:16 pm : link
I've been here a long time and that title was special. The text was a letdown though...
Shoot, I thought it read: "etymologists and lawyers."  
3putt : 2/18/2018 10:24 pm : link
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I thought it was epistemologists and lawyers...  
manh george : 2/18/2018 10:35 pm : link
who together would know about as much as...

epistemologists.
Thought this was about legal advice for  
Sarcastic Sam : 2/18/2018 10:49 pm : link
RE: Thought this was about legal advice for  
Mike in NY : 2/18/2018 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13835852 Sarcastic Sam said:
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Be careful with the powdered donuts. They are like cocaine
Entenmann’s  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/18/2018 11:00 pm : link
I buy a box of donut holes. When I open it, the box is empty. Do I have a legal case since, technically, I bought holes?
If you are large and don't mind paying a couple of $100  
xman : 2/18/2018 11:29 pm : link
you can vault fumigate the furniture with companies in south Florida
It used to be that on BBI you could post a problem or question  
Montreal Man : 2/19/2018 6:57 am : link
and many posters would offer some kind of advice or help instead of the stupid, lame jokes Rick just got.
Curious - how aould they detect  
Matt M. : 2/19/2018 7:37 am : link
any more around the house? How would they treat it?
RE: It used to be that on BBI you could post a problem or question  
pjcas18 : 2/19/2018 8:43 am : link
In comment 13835884 Montreal Man said:
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and many posters would offer some kind of advice or help instead of the stupid, lame jokes Rick just got.


True, usually (since I've been around) you would get a couple legit responses mixed in, but always jokes too.

In this case the population qualified to respond who knows insect biology and the law might be narrow even for BBI.
RE: Curious - how aould they detect  
Diver_Down : 2/19/2018 8:57 am : link
In comment 13835890 Matt M. said:
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any more around the house? How would they treat it?


I presume a tenting/fumigation would take care of any pests. I just don't see how a furniture company is responsible for his house. Ideally, the wood from the manufacture would have been treated. But ultimately, it is up to the buyer to do their due diligence.
Not an expert by any means  
Mike from Ohio : 2/19/2018 9:00 am : link
but I'm not sure how you would have a case for the furniture company to do anything more than replace the piece of furniture they sold you. Your house is less than a year old so who is to say if beetles starting coming out of other untreated wood in your house 10 years from now that they came from the furniture you bought as opposed to being the other wood to begin with?

I'm not sure you would have any cause to make them treat your house if you can't demonstrate there is a problem and that they were the cause.
If you're living in Florida  
rebel yell : 2/19/2018 10:39 am : link
you need to be a lot more concerned about termites devouring your house than you do about larvae from Powder Post Beetles somehow making their way from a piece of furniture and into your house's structure. Seems an unlikely happening and even less likely a lawsuit would hold up.
I don't have answers  
AJ23 : 2/19/2018 10:50 am : link
but as a homeowner, this sounds like a nightmare. Sorry it's happening to you, Rick.
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