what do Mets junkies think of 2B-Nick Madrigal at pick#6, 21 years old, batted .380, perhaps a Jose Altuve clone. Could probably reach the majors in a year or two, giving us a real nice core of young position players in Smith/Alonso, Rosario, Madrigal, Conforto. I know this is so far off, but just been projecting out.
Not a fan of 5' 7" athletes, but baseball is I guess different than some sports.
It works for Pedroia (and Altuve).
plus he and Conforto come from the same college (not there at the same time obviously).
The bat that intrigues me is Griffin Conine. Son of Jeff Conine and in Cape Cod League has really shown he can hit and hit for power with wood bats.
All that being said, the two SEC arms (Florida's Brady Singer and Auburn's Casey Mize) may be my favorite college players this year.
And this is why the Mets won’t take him.
The bat that intrigues me is Griffin Conine. Son of Jeff Conine and in Cape Cod League has really shown he can hit and hit for power with wood bats.
All that being said, the two SEC arms (Florida's Brady Singer and Auburn's Casey Mize) may be my favorite college players this year.
I'd love to get Singer, but he seems like the consensus #1, right?
I saw one mock draft that had the Mets taking a big lefty college pitcher who already had Tommy John surgery. a guy they drafted also when he was in the draft out of high school.
I wonder what the track record is like for pitchers being drafted after you know they already had TJ.
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Makes contact and doesn't strike out. The concern I would have with his game is ultimately how much speed does he have because the SB nubmers don't jump out at me although Oregon State doesn't really use the running game.
The bat that intrigues me is Griffin Conine. Son of Jeff Conine and in Cape Cod League has really shown he can hit and hit for power with wood bats.
All that being said, the two SEC arms (Florida's Brady Singer and Auburn's Casey Mize) may be my favorite college players this year.
I'd love to get Singer, but he seems like the consensus #1, right?
I saw one mock draft that had the Mets taking a big lefty college pitcher who already had Tommy John surgery. a guy they drafted also when he was in the draft out of high school.
I wonder what the track record is like for pitchers being drafted after you know they already had TJ.
Actually not that big, he's 6'1" Shane McClanahan from South Florida.
Lol. Not being a dick but you want to pick arguably a top 5-10 hitter in the game if healthy and one of the true young stars in baseball or pre-injury Harvey who maybe pitched one of the most dominant seasons in the history of the franchise and started the all star game? Who wouldn’t want that?? About a third of first rounders actually make it. The fact that Nimmo, Cecchini, Smith, Fuller, Conforto, Reynolds, Plawecki have all seen the majors is quite impressive. Give me a solid everyday regular and I’ll be thrilled.
What a weird statement. Making it to the pros and sucking doesn’t equate to “impressive” for. Sorry.
What a weird statement. Making it to the pros and sucking doesn’t equate to “impressive” for. Sorry.
Actually, I'd just say 1 of them.. Conforto.
Nimmo did some nice things last year, but I'm not ready to call him a quality MLB player just yet.
So, yeah.. that'd be 2.
What a weird statement. Making it to the pros and sucking doesn’t equate to “impressive” for. Sorry.
Actually, it does. Making it to the majors is a major feat in itself. This isnt the NFL where every single first round pick turns into a quality MLB starter. The fact that every single first round pick that reasonably could have made it by now and most comp picks have made it to the majors with very few top 10 picks IS impressive.
Go back and look at top 10 lists from 5-10 years ago and you'll see busts left and right. And what are we bashing guys like Nimmo and Smith? Is that a joke? These guys are just getting started and both have upside as everyday players. Cecchini looks like the only weak pick as of now and he's still been up and probably is still a utility player eventually.
I was way too hard on Eric and I apologize but the expectations of some of you guys are nuts. No wonder you all are so miserable. lol.
Conforto isnt a quality everyday player? Conforto was a college bat. The rest were high school. They are just breaking in now and almost all of them dominated in the minors.
He also traded for a couple of other first round picks (Wheeler and Syndergaard) when they were babies but I wont even get into that.
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Two of those players are quality pros. The rest don’t even belong in the same sentence, let alone good enough to be pro ball players.
What a weird statement. Making it to the pros and sucking doesn’t equate to “impressive” for. Sorry.
Actually, I'd just say 1 of them.. Conforto.
Nimmo did some nice things last year, but I'm not ready to call him a quality MLB player just yet.
Where did you guys see me say that all THOSE players are quality everyday players? I said the fact that they have all made the majors was impressive. I then said separately.... I would be thrilled if THIS upcoming pick turned into a solid everyday player.
Hoping for a top 10 hitter in the game or best pitcher in the game is going to leave people sadly disappointed.
He picked 13, 12, 11, 10, forfeited for Michael Cudddyer, 19/31, 20
so Kay, Dunn and Peterson are too recent to draw any conclusions.
but for the rest of them, even with the 1st round pick odds, I don't think it's a good sign that there's a legit chance 4 top 13 picks yields one major league regular.
of course Smith and even Nimmo could still develop, but I said "legit shot" if that happens, I doubt Sandy is here to defend it.
Dan I saw him play six times in high school and four times in college and probably 10 other times on TV ..
going to see him March 16 17 and 18 at Cal Berkeley I think he is very special.....He wills his team to win like Derek Jeter they went 56-6 last year without a bunch of high-end starters...It’s so easy to say he is Jose Altuve part two we will see
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the position doesn't matter so much, I just want another decade cost-controlled star like Conforto or pre-injury Harvey.
Lol. Not being a dick but you want to pick arguably a top 5-10 hitter in the game if healthy and one of the true young stars in baseball or pre-injury Harvey who maybe pitched one of the most dominant seasons in the history of the franchise and started the all star game? Who wouldn’t want that?? About a third of first rounders actually make it. The fact that Nimmo, Cecchini, Smith, Fuller, Conforto, Reynolds, Plawecki have all seen the majors is quite impressive. Give me a solid everyday regular and I’ll be thrilled.
Yes - I expect them to get as good of a player as their 2 best first round picks in the last decade considering this is their highest pick in that period of time.
Also I love Conforto as much as any other Met fan but there is no way he's currently a top 5-10 hitter in the game. Let's allow him get 500 ABs in a season before trying to compare him to guys like Trout, Harper, Stanton, Goldschmidt, Bryant, etc.
Ok. Im off my soap box. Have a goodnight.
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Two of those players are quality pros. The rest don’t even belong in the same sentence, let alone good enough to be pro ball players.
What a weird statement. Making it to the pros and sucking doesn’t equate to “impressive” for. Sorry.
Actually, it does. Making it to the majors is a major feat in itself. This isnt the NFL where every single first round pick turns into a quality MLB starter. The fact that every single first round pick that reasonably could have made it by now and most comp picks have made it to the majors with very few top 10 picks IS impressive.
Go back and look at top 10 lists from 5-10 years ago and you'll see busts left and right. And what are we bashing guys like Nimmo and Smith? Is that a joke? These guys are just getting started and both have upside as everyday players. Cecchini looks like the only weak pick as of now and he's still been up and probably is still a utility player eventually.
I was way too hard on Eric and I apologize but the expectations of some of you guys are nuts. No wonder you all are so miserable. lol.
Actually, it doesn’t. You named a bunch of guys that aren’t good enough to hold anything but a small bench role and are so bad that they are back and forth between the minors and the pros (if not releases or DFA’d altogether). Teams are full of these guys. And spare me with the September callups or someone that just sits on the bench to fill a seat because of an injury.
Yes, color me unimpressed to have a majority of high first round draft picks that amount to nothing. And what’s with the “top ten” number you keep throwing out? Is that some arbitrary number you select to make Sandy look good because he always picks just out of the top ten? Is there really a big difference between 8/9 picks and 11/12/13 picks?
I knew this was going to be a Bat Signal for you. You are the only person in the world that feels that Sandy has drafted well.
Yeah, sort of like how you draw the line at the top 10 drafts picks...a hair before Sandy has picked for a number of years. Pot meet kettle.
Comparing him to Altuve is not really apt since Altuve is a freak of nature and nobody his size has done what he has done in recent memory. Altuve also hit 15 HR in his age 20 season, playing A ball. Madrigal hit 4 playing in college. Altuve also was a great base stealer. Madrigal is not that fast.
I think Madrigal would be a really bad pick. Probably a high floor guy but his ceiling is low
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I love how you draw the line a hair ahead of where he actually was(440 atbats). As if that's not a significant sample over his first full season. Whatever dude. Yeah, Conforto, assuming he heals 100%, is a fluke. Jesus.
Yeah, sort of like how you draw the line at the top 10 drafts picks...a hair before Sandy has picked for a number of years. Pot meet kettle.
What in the Gods name are you talking about man?? Have you lost your mind? I literally named off every first round pick since Sandy's been here AND included comp draft picks. I said to go back and look at other teams top 10 picks from 5-10 years ago for busts (IE higher odds of hitting than Sandy mostly has) and you'll still find busts left and right that never made it out of AA. Do you even read?
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Two of those players are quality pros. The rest don’t even belong in the same sentence, let alone good enough to be pro ball players.
What a weird statement. Making it to the pros and sucking doesn’t equate to “impressive” for. Sorry.
Actually, it does. Making it to the majors is a major feat in itself. This isnt the NFL where every single first round pick turns into a quality MLB starter. The fact that every single first round pick that reasonably could have made it by now and most comp picks have made it to the majors with very few top 10 picks IS impressive.
Go back and look at top 10 lists from 5-10 years ago and you'll see busts left and right. And what are we bashing guys like Nimmo and Smith? Is that a joke? These guys are just getting started and both have upside as everyday players. Cecchini looks like the only weak pick as of now and he's still been up and probably is still a utility player eventually.
I was way too hard on Eric and I apologize but the expectations of some of you guys are nuts. No wonder you all are so miserable. lol.
Actually, it doesn’t. You named a bunch of guys that aren’t good enough to hold anything but a small bench role and are so bad that they are back and forth between the minors and the pros (if not releases or DFA’d altogether). Teams are full of these guys. And spare me with the September callups or someone that just sits on the bench to fill a seat because of an injury.
Yes, color me unimpressed to have a majority of high first round draft picks that amount to nothing. And what’s with the “top ten” number you keep throwing out? Is that some arbitrary number you select to make Sandy look good because he always picks just out of the top ten? Is there really a big difference between 8/9 picks and 11/12/13 picks?
I knew this was going to be a Bat Signal for you. You are the only person in the world that feels that Sandy has drafted well.
Again, what the hell are you talking about? If the average is a third of first-round picks even make it the majors and I'm saying every single first-round pick has made it so far INCLUDING comp picks/sandwich picks that reasonably could have made it so far (I get some are bench players) I feel that's pretty damn good. I dont care if you dont like them. Im simply stating something.
As for the players themselves, again, the only player that doesn't look like a solid everyday player or player primed for loads of playing time yet in the majors who was a reasonably high pick was Cecchini. Smith and Nimmo still have huge chances to. So again? WTF are you talking about? You are saying every high pick has been garbage. Who, other than Cecchini, do you even have a chance to say that about yet?
Its pretty clear that you're the one that never saw it considering you didn't read a single thing I was referring to.
Fulmer- all-star
Smith- currently viewed as the 1B of the future for now/will start in AAA.
Nimmo- 4th OF Sandy wouldn't use in any offseason trades expected to get a lot of playing time. wRC+ 117 last year
Plawecki-expected to split catching duties 50/50 this year wRC+ over 100 last year
Cecchini-starter in AAA-likely bust or bench player but he's getting at least one more chance
Reynolds- Bench guy... hopes to compete for 25th man on the Nats
Wow.
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even in this draft but man the hype on Bobby Witt Jr. is pretty massive.
Dan I saw him play six times in high school and four times in college and probably 10 other times on TV ..
going to see him March 16 17 and 18 at Cal Berkeley I think he is very special.....He wills his team to win like Derek Jeter they went 56-6 last year without a bunch of high-end starters...It’s so easy to say he is Jose Altuve part two we will see
capone,
Thanks for the insight. I don't recall so much hype for a kid this far away since Harper. I realize Harper was an absolute freak of nature and a potential future HOFer but Witt jr isn't even a huge kid and all you hear is raves and comps to Jeter with tools and off-field stuff to match. This isn't the NBA but he seems like a "franchise changer"
It's really too early to even guess. So many games to be played.
Some writers say best LHP in the draft, but as I mentioned above he already had TJS. Does that hurt his value? These days I just don't know anymore, maybe it's a he got it out of the way early thing, but I tend to think at #6 I'd like a guy with a clean bill of health/history.
I'm actually a fan. I don't share the speed concerns of whomever mentioned it above. 20+ SB upside. He's 100% on my radar.
RHP Jose Valero - 6'1 180" DOB: 8/17/2000.
LHP Carlos Castellanos - DOB: 1/27/2001.
SS Andres Parra - DOB: 9/9/1999.
madigral is a 4.05 guy altuve 3.98.. you can project nick to get a bit faster as he gets stronger he turns 21 on 3/5
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