an OLineman wasn’t even taken in the top 10 and there first Guard chosen was in round 2.
And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.
Scherff has indeed worked wonders...Skins won the division in 2015, had an elite offense in 2016...Scherff has helped make a mediocre QB like Cousins look like a Pro Bowler
Which is why Scot McCloughan calls it his 1 or 2 best draft pick ever
I don’t know about you guys but I’ve changed my stance Â
I am now worried Cleveland will take Nelson and instead, I think we should trade up to secure the best player in this draft. Too risky waiting until 2 and I don’t care what it costs.
RE: Re: Larry Allen is the greatest lineman of all time 3 Super Bowl rings Â
Been playing Guard since Week 1 of his rookie year.
Nelson is better than Scherff anyways.
Actually it does dunce...he lost out on the RT job in training camp and was moved to guard. The point being he was drafted as a TACKLE. The people on here are saying #2 for a Guard is unprecedented.
RE: If you keep typing the same shot over and over again Â
Been playing Guard since Week 1 of his rookie year.
Nelson is better than Scherff anyways.
Actually it does dunce...he lost out on the RT job in training camp and was moved to guard. The point being he was drafted as a TACKLE. The people on here are saying #2 for a Guard is unprecedented.
I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.
I think the Skins drafted Brandon Scherff at #5 thinking he'd be an OT. He's pretty good at G. Wasted pick AT #5 though.
False.
Skins drafted Scherff with every intention of playing him at G.
Scot McGloughan calls Scherff his 1 or 2 best draft pick ever
So this is true? Please show me where the Skins has every intention of playing him at Guard. He was drafted to be the RT and lost the battle in training camp which is when he moved to Guard.
Says who? You? Even if he was... notice how you said “interior OL”... even if he was he still ain’t going 2nd overall, not in John Jerry’s wildest dreams does a fucking Guard go that high. If Nelson smoked some of that crack you are smoking he still wouldn’t get that high. No chance.
We will look back when Eli is 40 and wonder who the hell Â
...that's an absolute waste of the rare draft capital the #2 pick affords us. If we don't want the QB trade down a few slots and take one of Nelson, Chubb, Fitzpatrick etc that are at the top of our board.
People just can't see past the letter "G" next to his name Â
You used Chris Snee as an example of what we need. Snee a former early 2nd round pick in which both Wynn and Smith are comparable to Snee. With each post you continue to prove that you know nothing.
What happens in the likely event Eli is gone a year from now? Â
we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.
Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.
You used Chris Snee as an example of what we need. Snee a former early 2nd round pick in which both Wynn and Smith are comparable to Snee. With each post you continue to prove that you know nothing.
Newsflash: Those guys aren't anywhere near Nelson
Here's an analogy:
If they were WR prospects, Nelson would be OBJ and Wynn would be Jarvis Landry.
Not equal prospects, not even close.
RE: What happens in the likely event Eli is gone a year from now? Â
we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.
Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.
we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.
Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.
He will have a HOF career.
Zach Martin will be in the HOF one day.
Nelson is Martin with more drive-power.
Hey can you tell me if will I win the PowerBall being you know the future so well.
Huge question to ask yourself before you burn a #2 overall pick on an OG, as dominant as he might prove to be in the NFL.
Davis Webb is playing QB behind an OL that features 2 All-Pro Guards in Norwell and Nelson, with new upgraded Tackles.
That dominant OL props Webb up and allows him to succeed.
"Everything starts with the offensive line."
- Shurmur / Gettleman
Ah yes the good guard play will allow Webb to succeed which was evident last season when Deshone Kizer, a better prospect than Webb, succeeded with Bitonio and Zeitler and HOF LT Joe Thomas.
Why do the Giants need a guard anyway when they have John Jerry??
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Flem care to share your credentials as you clearly know more than the draft experts including Sy.
Sy knows more about Offensive Line play than Geoff Schwartz, a former OL who is basically an OL expert?
Yes he does. Players are not scouts. Theres a reason for that
Check the draft grades on NFL.com
Nelson = 7.4
Hernandez = 6.11
Wynn = 6.11
All the scouts agree: Nelson is the best OL in this draft by a wide margin.
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just keep punching those keys, fight the fight no one cares about. Awful poster.
Quenton Nelson:
- Best player in the draft
- Safest player in the draft
- Highest graded prospect EVER at his position
- Fills the #1 position of Need for the Giants
- Compared to Larry Allen, the greatest lineman of all time
Guard
Don’t care
Can pay for a Guard
Who cares
Chris Snee had little to do with the Giants 2 SB wins.
Who am I kidding?
And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.
He will be the best in any offense. His impact will be greater than the best LT, QB, WR and Running Back combined. There is nothing Nelson can’t do.
LT only had two.
And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.
Scherff has indeed worked wonders...Skins won the division in 2015, had an elite offense in 2016...Scherff has helped make a mediocre QB like Cousins look like a Pro Bowler
Which is why Scot McCloughan calls it his 1 or 2 best draft pick ever
LT only had two.
That wasn't the point.
The point is, All-Pro guards have a tremendous impact on forming a winning foundation.
As soon as Chris Snee started declining...the Giants run game turned to shit.
And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.
His draft was a long long time ago. Different era of football.
Either way - Gettleman and the Giants goal should/will be to build the best OL possible - and that starts now with Nelson.
Gettleman will make a loud statement with his 1st ever draft pick as Giants GM.
Doesn't matter.
He's a Guard in the NFL.
Been playing Guard since Week 1 of his rookie year.
Nelson is better than Scherff anyways.
Mah...the meat loaf!
You can find anything anywhere.
Antonio Gates was a UDFA
Victor Cruz was a UDFA
James Harrison was a UDFA
Means nothing.
Nelson is a sure thing. He changes the culture and starts forming the winning foundation.
The guards later in the draft are not as good as Nelson.
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Doesn't matter.
He's a Guard in the NFL.
Been playing Guard since Week 1 of his rookie year.
Nelson is better than Scherff anyways.
Actually it does dunce...he lost out on the RT job in training camp and was moved to guard. The point being he was drafted as a TACKLE. The people on here are saying #2 for a Guard is unprecedented.
Mah...the meat loaf!
Everything I have said in this thread is true. Everything.
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Doesn't matter.
He's a Guard in the NFL.
Been playing Guard since Week 1 of his rookie year.
Nelson is better than Scherff anyways.
Actually it does dunce...he lost out on the RT job in training camp and was moved to guard. The point being he was drafted as a TACKLE. The people on here are saying #2 for a Guard is unprecedented.
Because Quenton Nelson is unprecedented.
And therefore worthy of the selection.
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an OLineman wasn’t even taken in the top 10 and there first Guard chosen was in round 2.
And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.
His draft was a long long time ago. Different era of football.
Either way - Gettleman and the Giants goal should/will be to build the best OL possible - and that starts now with Nelson.
Gettleman will make a loud statement with his 1st ever draft pick as Giants GM.
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I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.
I think the Skins drafted Brandon Scherff at #5 thinking he'd be an OT. He's pretty good at G. Wasted pick AT #5 though.
False.
Skins drafted Scherff with every intention of playing him at G.
Scot McGloughan calls Scherff his 1 or 2 best draft pick ever
So this is true? Please show me where the Skins has every intention of playing him at Guard. He was drafted to be the RT and lost the battle in training camp which is when he moved to Guard.
He sounds just like the John Jerry troll. Probably the same guy - looking for a new guard to drool over.
Giants have the 32nd ranked rushing attack since 2011.
How badly do you want to win?
When is this crap gonna stop?
Giants have the 32nd ranked rushing attack since 2011.
How badly do you want to win?
When is this crap gonna stop?
I find myself asking this exact same question every time you post.
Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.
Newsflash: Those guys aren't anywhere near Nelson
Here's an analogy:
If they were WR prospects, Nelson would be OBJ and Wynn would be Jarvis Landry.
Not equal prospects, not even close.
Davis Webb is playing QB behind an OL that features 2 All-Pro Guards in Norwell and Nelson, with new upgraded Tackles.
That dominant OL props Webb up and allows him to succeed.
"Everything starts with the offensive line."
- Shurmur / Gettleman
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we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.
Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.
He will have a HOF career.
Zach Martin will be in the HOF one day.
Nelson is Martin with more drive-power.
Makes sense.
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we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.
Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.
He will have a HOF career.
Zach Martin will be in the HOF one day.
Nelson is Martin with more drive-power.
Hey can you tell me if will I win the PowerBall being you know the future so well.
The last time Giants fans have seen strong Guard play was 2009 Chris Snee.
Jerry Reese devalued Guards, it's why he's out of a job.
The last time Giants fans have seen strong Guard play was 2009 Chris Snee.
Jerry Reese devalued Guards, it's why he's out of a job.
There are a ton of guys at the top of the draft playing more premium postitions who are also "culture changers"
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Huge question to ask yourself before you burn a #2 overall pick on an OG, as dominant as he might prove to be in the NFL.
Davis Webb is playing QB behind an OL that features 2 All-Pro Guards in Norwell and Nelson, with new upgraded Tackles.
That dominant OL props Webb up and allows him to succeed.
"Everything starts with the offensive line."
- Shurmur / Gettleman
Ah yes the good guard play will allow Webb to succeed which was evident last season when Deshone Kizer, a better prospect than Webb, succeeded with Bitonio and Zeitler and HOF LT Joe Thomas.
Why do the Giants need a guard anyway when they have John Jerry??
The last time Giants fans have seen strong Guard play was 2009 Chris Snee.
Jerry Reese devalued Guards, it's why he's out of a job.
Then why hasn’t ND won a national championship during his tenure?
He’s the John Jerry troll with his new favorite guard.