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Take Quenton Nelson at 2 and never look back

Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 3:46 pm
Colts might take Nelson at 3, with LG Jack Mewhort hitting free agency

Don't even risk it by trading down

Prospects like Nelson come around once every 15 years.

Welcome back  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 3:49 pm : link
FirstballotEli
As great as Nelson looks  
robbieballs2003 : 2/19/2018 3:49 pm : link
The history of guards being drafted early is pretty bad. I am not talking about players currently playing guard. I am talking about players who were actually projected to play G and not OT.
As good as Nelson is  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 3:50 pm : link
taking him with the 2nd overall pick is a huge mistake especially when you can get an outstanding guard like Wynn, Smith, or Hernandez in round 2.
no thanks  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 3:52 pm : link
I'm not the type of guy to get mad at who we take in the draft, but a Guard at 2 would piss me off.
Great..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/19/2018 3:53 pm : link
a February 2018 poster who replaced the last fuckstick who littered the board with pleas to draft Nelson.

Offseason awesomeness.
I won't be pissed if we draft a player  
widmerseyebrow : 2/19/2018 3:54 pm : link
That's actually worth resigning after his rookie contract is up. The bar is low.
RE: Great..  
djstat : 2/19/2018 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13836277 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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a February 2018 poster who replaced the last fuckstick who littered the board with pleas to draft Nelson.

Offseason awesomeness.
Why are you always such a jerk?
factoring in the rookie payscale  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 3:55 pm : link
and what a Guard would make at #2 overall, you aren't even getting much of an investment savings vs. paying for a seasoned Guard in FA.
You use a top 3 pick on premier positions  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 3:55 pm : link
which are QB, DE, CB, LT and WR. The Browns have one of the league's best guard combo's and they both played every snap last season.
RE: RE: Great..  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13836279 djstat said:
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a February 2018 poster who replaced the last fuckstick who littered the board with pleas to draft Nelson.

Offseason awesomeness.

Why are you always such a jerk?

He isn't being a jerk. This is the John Jerry troll with his 20th handle the last being FirstballotEli.
the people trolling the site  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 3:57 pm : link
using up bandwith are the jerks.
Prospects like Nelson come along every 15 years?  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 3:57 pm : link
I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.
is this the John Jerry troll again  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/19/2018 4:00 pm : link
-- geez
it's kinda like guarditis  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/19/2018 4:00 pm : link
...
Damn straight. Don’t look back but because ...  
Boy Cord : 2/19/2018 4:02 pm : link
... the fans with their pitchforks and torches will catch up with you. Put your head down and run like hell. Nelson at #2 is not happening.
RE: Welcome back  
mrvax : 2/19/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 13836270 Jay on the Island said:
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FirstballotEli


Good job, Jay. Outed him the first time he posted something stupid.
I don't think it's firstBallot  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/19/2018 4:04 pm : link
this guy is on verizon and FirstBallot was TMobile
RE: Prospects like Nelson come along every 15 years?  
mrvax : 2/19/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13836285 Jay on the Island said:
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I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.


I think the Skins drafted Brandon Scherff at #5 thinking he'd be an OT. He's pretty good at G. Wasted pick AT #5 though.
RE: RE: Prospects like Nelson come along every 15 years?  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13836303 mrvax said:
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In comment 13836285 Jay on the Island said:


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I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.



I think the Skins drafted Brandon Scherff at #5 thinking he'd be an OT. He's pretty good at G. Wasted pick AT #5 though.

IIRC they drafted him to keep him at G. They already had Trent Williams entrenched at LT and I believe they liked their RT as well.
RE: RE: Great..  
section125 : 2/19/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13836279 djstat said:
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In comment 13836277 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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a February 2018 poster who replaced the last fuckstick who littered the board with pleas to draft Nelson.

Offseason awesomeness.

Why are you always such a jerk?


Sometimes, it is necessary....
I know picking a guard that high seems like a waste  
Rjanyg : 2/19/2018 4:46 pm : link
But we know for a fact these 2 things:

1. He would start
2. He would fill a huge need

I think Nelson is one of the top 3 positional players in this draft. My top 5 overall players being
1. Darnold
2. Barkley
3. Nelson
4. Chubb
5. Fitzpatrick

If Darnold is gone a trade back with selection of Nelson is good for me.
he might be  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 4:54 pm : link
but along with his draft status would be his pricetag, which negates having a really good player on a rookie deal. I'd have to see what the final numbers would be but he'd get substantially more than the measly $2 million per year a guy like Zack Martin got on his rookie deal - likely 3-4x more per year. Might as sign the top rated Guard in FA and use the #2 pick on a premium position that costs significantly more.
Let the Colts stupidly  
Rflairr : 2/19/2018 4:56 pm : link
take a Guard at 3
RE: no thanks  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13836276 UConn4523 said:
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I'm not the type of guy to get mad at who we take in the draft, but a Guard at 2 would piss me off.

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RE: As good as Nelson is  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13836272 Jay on the Island said:
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taking him with the 2nd overall pick is a huge mistake especially when you can get an outstanding guard like Wynn, Smith, or Hernandez in round 2.


Those guys are not even close to Nelson.

Not even close.
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RE: Prospects like Nelson come along every 15 years?  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13836285 Jay on the Island said:
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I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.


Neither of those guys were compared to Larry Allen.

RE: factoring in the rookie payscale  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13836280 UConn4523 said:
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and what a Guard would make at #2 overall, you aren't even getting much of an investment savings vs. paying for a seasoned Guard in FA.


Are you dense?

Nelson will be a 12x All-Pro.

He has the talent to be the #1 Guard in all of football.

Maybe of all time.
RE: RE: Prospects like Nelson come along every 15 years?  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:04 pm : link
In comment 13836303 mrvax said:
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In comment 13836285 Jay on the Island said:


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I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.



I think the Skins drafted Brandon Scherff at #5 thinking he'd be an OT. He's pretty good at G. Wasted pick AT #5 though.


False.

Skins drafted Scherff with every intention of playing him at G.

Scot McGloughan calls Scherff his 1 or 2 best draft pick ever
If he was so special he would be playing Left Tackle.  
est1986 : 2/19/2018 5:04 pm : link
He is good but he reminds me a lot of the two can’t miss guard prospects of 2013, Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack, both went top 10 and both were total busts. Now I don’t see him being a bust but... there is no way we draft this guy at number 2... zero chance... just stop already.
I could see it at 8-10 range.  
Carl in CT : 2/19/2018 5:07 pm : link
At #2 we need an impact player. Our brass need to find that stud!
The best OG of all time?  
MetsAreBack : 2/19/2018 5:09 pm : link
this just got interesting. Anything to support this claim?
We’d be looking  
cokeduplt : 2/19/2018 5:11 pm : link
Back plenty if whatever QB we passed over becomes a franchise QB and we have a Guard blocking for a bad QB in the future
FWIW,  
old man : 2/19/2018 5:17 pm : link
I think Sy'56 doesn't even have him as the #1 or #2 G in the draft.
Personally, I was high on him, but he and McGlinchey both disappointed me the last 2-3 ND games.
But if they feel he's their best value @#2(;-( ), then so be it.
Or if the 2004 draft repeated itself  
MetsAreBack : 2/19/2018 5:18 pm : link
which one of these guys does not belong? I'll forgive the Skins on #5 since he had a hell of a future until he died.


1 San Diego Chargers Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2 Oakland Raiders Robert Gallery T Iowa
3 Arizona Cardinals Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
4 New York Giants Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
5 Washington Redskins Sean Taylor FS Miami (Fla.)
Does anyone remember Tony Mandarich  
Ira : 2/19/2018 5:19 pm : link
?
RE: Does anyone remember Tony Mandarich  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13836386 Ira said:
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?


Nelson isn't Mandarich
RE: Or if the 2004 draft repeated itself  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:28 pm : link
In comment 13836385 MetsAreBack said:
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which one of these guys does not belong? I'll forgive the Skins on #5 since he had a hell of a future until he died.


1 San Diego Chargers Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2 Oakland Raiders Robert Gallery T Iowa
3 Arizona Cardinals Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
4 New York Giants Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
5 Washington Redskins Sean Taylor FS Miami (Fla.)


Nelson isn't Gallery.
RE: If he was so special he would be playing Left Tackle.  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13836370 est1986 said:
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He is good but he reminds me a lot of the two can’t miss guard prospects of 2013, Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack, both went top 10 and both were total busts. Now I don’t see him being a bust but... there is no way we draft this guy at number 2... zero chance... just stop already.


Gettleman is the GM.

Very high chance it's Nelson.

Nelson will be the best OL prospect Gettleman has ever scouted

Gettleman is obsessed with OL play
RE: RE: As good as Nelson is  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13836362 Flem17454 said:
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In comment 13836272 Jay on the Island said:


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taking him with the 2nd overall pick is a huge mistake especially when you can get an outstanding guard like Wynn, Smith, or Hernandez in round 2.



Those guys are not even close to Nelson.

Not even close. Link - ( New Window )

Says who? you?
RE: The best OG of all time?  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13836376 MetsAreBack said:
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this just got interesting. Anything to support this claim?



NFL Comparison: Larry Allen
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This is clearly FirstballotELi  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:30 pm : link
Flem care to share your credentials as you clearly know more than the draft experts including Sy.
RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:31 pm : link
In comment 13836375 Carl in CT said:
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At #2 we need an impact player. Our brass need to find that stud!


Nelson is literally the #1 "impact player" in the draft

Larry Allen reincarnated

Impact huh?

Power running game up the middle, including short yardage

Clean pocket up the middle

Giants are 32nd in Rushing since 2011.

The best run-blocker scouts have ever seen, doesn't have a profound impact?
Using the 2nd overall pick on a G  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:32 pm : link
when the Giants could take their next franchise QB is colossal mistake.
RE: RE: RE: As good as Nelson is  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13836401 Jay on the Island said:
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taking him with the 2nd overall pick is a huge mistake especially when you can get an outstanding guard like Wynn, Smith, or Hernandez in round 2.



Those guys are not even close to Nelson.

Not even close. Link - ( New Window )


Says who? you?


Says the draft grades.

Draft Grade:

Nelson = 7.4
Wynn = 6.11
Hernandez = 6.11

RE: RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:34 pm : link
In comment 13836404 Flem17454 said:
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At #2 we need an impact player. Our brass need to find that stud!



Nelson is literally the #1 "impact player" in the draft

Larry Allen reincarnated

Impact huh?

Power running game up the middle, including short yardage

Clean pocket up the middle

Giants are 32nd in Rushing since 2011.

The best run-blocker scouts have ever seen, doesn't have a profound impact?

great now all we need is a feature back and quarterback! If you think guard is an impact position then you clearly don't know what the hell you are talking about. Once again proving that you are the firstballotEli troll by referring to guard as an impact position.
RE: This is clearly FirstballotELi  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:34 pm : link
In comment 13836403 Jay on the Island said:
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Flem care to share your credentials as you clearly know more than the draft experts including Sy.


Sy knows more about Offensive Line play than Geoff Schwartz, a former OL who is basically an OL expert?
RE: RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:35 pm : link
In comment 13836404 Flem17454 said:
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The best run-blocker scouts have ever seen, doesn't have a profound impact?

Where do you come up with this shit?
RE: RE: This is clearly FirstballotELi  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13836409 Flem17454 said:
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Flem care to share your credentials as you clearly know more than the draft experts including Sy.



Sy knows more about Offensive Line play than Geoff Schwartz, a former OL who is basically an OL expert?

You don't understand value.
RE: Using the 2nd overall pick on a G  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13836406 Jay on the Island said:
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when the Giants could take their next franchise QB is colossal mistake.


Using the 2nd overall pick on:

Sam Bradford (Josh Rosen)
Jake Locker (Josh Allen)

Over

Larry Allen (Q Nelson)

...would be the real mistake.
RE: RE: Using the 2nd overall pick on a G  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13836414 Flem17454 said:
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when the Giants could take their next franchise QB is colossal mistake.



Using the 2nd overall pick on:

Sam Bradford (Josh Rosen)
Jake Locker (Josh Allen)

Over

Larry Allen (Q Nelson)

...would be the real mistake.

Interesting as neither are Darnold or Rosen. Locker was the 6th overall pick. Bradford was done in by his injuries.
RE: RE: Using the 2nd overall pick on a G  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13836414 Flem17454 said:
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when the Giants could take their next franchise QB is colossal mistake.



Using the 2nd overall pick on:

Sam Bradford (Josh Rosen)
Jake Locker (Josh Allen)

Over

Larry Allen (Q Nelson)
Larry Allen over Carson Wentz or Matt Ryan is a colossal mistake. See I can find examples too!
...would be the real mistake.
RE: RE: RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13836412 Jay on the Island said:
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The best run-blocker scouts have ever seen, doesn't have a profound impact?


Where do you come up with this shit?


Scroll down

"He's one of the best run-blockers I've ever evaluated..."


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RE: RE: RE: RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13836420 Flem17454 said:
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Scroll down

"He's one of the best run-blockers I've ever evaluated..."
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So one draft guru says that he is "one of the best." That's a far cry from "The best run-blocker scouts have ever seen"
RE: RE: RE: Using the 2nd overall pick on a G  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13836417 Jay on the Island said:
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when the Giants could take their next franchise QB is colossal mistake.



Using the 2nd overall pick on:

Sam Bradford (Josh Rosen)
Jake Locker (Josh Allen)

Over

Larry Allen (Q Nelson)

...would be the real mistake.


Interesting as neither are Darnold or Rosen. Locker was the 6th overall pick. Bradford was done in by his injuries.


Re-read it.

Rosen = Bradford. Injuries will do in Rosen like they did Bradford. Rosen is frail.

Allen will bust like Locker. Same QB.
I am not saying Nelson won't be good  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 5:42 pm : link
I am just pointing out how stupid it is to take a guard with the #2 pick when you can get a guard in round 2 with pro bowl upside and an all-pro guard in free agency.
At this point  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/19/2018 5:48 pm : link
people are convincing themselves that every other prospect is bad because they really want the RB.

Is it not possible that Barkley is a great prospect AND there are some great QB prospects also? Why must we have tunnel vision and fixate on one player?
RE: RE: RE: Prospects like Nelson come along every 15 years?  
est1986 : 2/19/2018 5:48 pm : link
In comment 13836369 Flem17454 said:
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I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.



I think the Skins drafted Brandon Scherff at #5 thinking he'd be an OT. He's pretty good at G. Wasted pick AT #5 though.



False.

Skins drafted Scherff with every intention of playing him at G.

Scot McGloughan calls Scherff his 1 or 2 best draft pick ever


Not true. They wanted him to be RT but he didn’t play well there when they tried him there in the off season and in camp so they moved him to guard where they knew he would thrive. But you can bet your ass he would be a tackle if he could be one. Luckily for them, Morgan Moses has developed nicely and Trent Williams is still kicking, so now Scherff can dominate at guard.
#2 pick  
Craigg619 : 2/19/2018 5:48 pm : link
It's mind boggling to me that anyone would want a guard at #2 overall in a draft rich in qbs for a team with a 37 year old QB who is almost never in this position. Just makes no sense at all.
RE: RE: factoring in the rookie payscale  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/19/2018 5:53 pm : link
In comment 13836366 Flem17454 said:
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and what a Guard would make at #2 overall, you aren't even getting much of an investment savings vs. paying for a seasoned Guard in FA.



Are you dense?

Nelson will be a 12x All-Pro.

He has the talent to be the #1 Guard in all of football.

Maybe of all time.

This will end quickly.

Bye!
RE: RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
OBJRoyal : 2/19/2018 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13836404 Flem17454 said:
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At #2 we need an impact player. Our brass need to find that stud!



Nelson is literally the #1 "impact player" in the draft

Larry Allen reincarnated

Impact huh?

Power running game up the middle, including short yardage

Clean pocket up the middle

Giants are 32nd in Rushing since 2011.

The best run-blocker scouts have ever seen, doesn't have a profound impact?


"Clean pocket up the middle" was used non stop by the poster who wanted to have John Jerry's baby on BBWC
Shuuuuut the fuuuckkk uppp  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 5:59 pm : link
you didn’t even read my fucking post about cost. Are you fucking dense?
RE: RE: RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
Jay on the Island : 2/19/2018 6:01 pm : link
In comment 13836439 OBJRoyal said:
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"Clean pocket up the middle" was used non stop by the poster who wanted to have John Jerry's baby on BBWC

Gidi confirmed that FirstballotEli is the John Jerry Troll. First ballot Eli also referred to guard as a "premier position" You would think that with all the handles this guy has had he would be better at disguising himself but he is clearly too dense to do so.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
OBJRoyal : 2/19/2018 6:33 pm : link
In comment 13836445 Jay on the Island said:
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"Clean pocket up the middle" was used non stop by the poster who wanted to have John Jerry's baby on BBWC


Gidi confirmed that FirstballotEli is the John Jerry Troll. First ballot Eli also referred to guard as a "premier position" You would think that with all the handles this guy has had he would be better at disguising himself but he is clearly too dense to do so.


There is also a similar port on BBWC from the same guy stating to take Nelson cause he is worried about Indy at 3.

From all the John Jerry crap to this??? Dude needs a life...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I could see it at 8-10 range.  
OBJRoyal : 2/19/2018 6:36 pm : link
In comment 13836464 OBJRoyal said:
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"Clean pocket up the middle" was used non stop by the poster who wanted to have John Jerry's baby on BBWC


Gidi confirmed that FirstballotEli is the John Jerry Troll. First ballot Eli also referred to guard as a "premier position" You would think that with all the handles this guy has had he would be better at disguising himself but he is clearly too dense to do so.



There is also a similar port on BBWC from the same guy stating to take Nelson cause he is worried about Indy at 3.

From all the John Jerry crap to this??? Dude needs a life...


Meant to say similar post
Put the crack pipe down!  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 2/19/2018 6:45 pm : link
Flem, calm down. The greatest guard of all time? Josh Rosen may be the greatest QB of all time! Which would you rather have -- the greatest guard or the greatest QB?

John Hannah was/is the greatest guard of all time. never went to a Super Bowl. Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Joh Elway all considered among the greatest QBs of all time -- lots of Super Bowls.
RE: RE: factoring in the rookie payscale  
GFAN52 : 2/19/2018 6:46 pm : link
In comment 13836366 Flem17454 said:
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and what a Guard would make at #2 overall, you aren't even getting much of an investment savings vs. paying for a seasoned Guard in FA.



Are you dense?

Nelson will be a 12x All-Pro.

He has the talent to be the #1 Guard in all of football.

Maybe of all time.


"prospects like this come around every  
ryanmkeane : 2/19/2018 7:05 pm : link
15 years..." the same guy that is a guard and not even the top guard on the board by Sy?
Pro Bowl  
ryanmkeane : 2/19/2018 7:06 pm : link
guards can be drafted in the mid rounds. Hard pass on Nelson at #2.
So the obsession with Jerry has changed to Nelson?  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 7:07 pm : link
You really have to be some kind of loser to continue to create new handle after new handle after being banned from a site that doesn’t want you.
RE:  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:16 pm : link
In comment 13836487 ryanmkeane said:
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15 years..." the same guy that is a guard and not even the top guard on the board by Sy?


What makes u think I care about Sy's board?

He is literally the only person on Earth who feels that way.
RE: So the obsession with Jerry has changed to Nelson?  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13836490 figgy2989 said:
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You really have to be some kind of loser to continue to create new handle after new handle after being banned from a site that doesn’t want you.


Jerry?

What are u talking about?
RE: RE: RE: factoring in the rookie payscale  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:17 pm : link
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and what a Guard would make at #2 overall, you aren't even getting much of an investment savings vs. paying for a seasoned Guard in FA.



Are you dense?

Nelson will be a 12x All-Pro.

He has the talent to be the #1 Guard in all of football.

Maybe of all time.






Larry Allen is the greatest lineman of all time.

Nelson's comparison?

Larry Allen.
RE: I am not saying Nelson won't be good  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:19 pm : link
In comment 13836424 Jay on the Island said:
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I am just pointing out how stupid it is to take a guard with the #2 pick when you can get a guard in round 2 with pro bowl upside and an all-pro guard in free agency.



Not stupid at all.

Nelson is significantly better than any Round 2 Guard.

Hernandez is going Round 1.
RE: Put the crack pipe down!  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:19 pm : link
In comment 13836473 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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Flem, calm down. The greatest guard of all time? Josh Rosen may be the greatest QB of all time! Which would you rather have -- the greatest guard or the greatest QB?

John Hannah was/is the greatest guard of all time. never went to a Super Bowl. Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Joh Elway all considered among the greatest QBs of all time -- lots of Super Bowls.


Larry Allen is the greatest lineman of all time.

3 Super Bowl rings.
RE: Shuuuuut the fuuuckkk uppp  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13836441 UConn4523 said:
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you didn’t even read my fucking post about cost. Are you fucking dense?


Geoff Schwartz says Nelson is worth the cost/slot/value.

His evaluation on Nelson's play after lots of tape study > yours


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People on here  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:24 pm : link
Don't really realize how dominant Nelson is.

He is the highest graded interior OL prospect in NFL history.

Literally. That is not hyperbole.
GM Geoff Schwartz says it, must be true  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 7:29 pm : link
and I wouldnt take the best Guard in the NFL at #2 overall, not sure what about that you don’t understand. I don’t think he sucks, I’m not taking any Guard at 2 no matter what.

So have fun regurgitating the same old shit. You suck and this thread sucks.
Larry Allen  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 7:30 pm : link
cool, did he win those SBs throwing and running and tackling all by himself?
RE: GM Geoff Schwartz says it, must be true  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:33 pm : link
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and I wouldnt take the best Guard in the NFL at #2 overall, not sure what about that you don’t understand. I don’t think he sucks, I’m not taking any Guard at 2 no matter what.

So have fun regurgitating the same old shit. You suck and this thread sucks.


Larry Allen would go #1 or #2 overall in a re-draft
RE: Larry Allen  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13836515 UConn4523 said:
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cool, did he win those SBs throwing and running and tackling all by himself?


Don't worry, the REAL GM (Gettleman) will make Nelson the pick.

Not in today’s nfl he wouldnt  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 7:34 pm : link
. See, I can say whatever I want too.
RE: GM Geoff Schwartz says it, must be true  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13836514 UConn4523 said:
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and I wouldnt take the best Guard in the NFL at #2 overall, not sure what about that you don’t understand. I don’t think he sucks, I’m not taking any Guard at 2 no matter what.

So have fun regurgitating the same old shit. You suck and this thread sucks.


If Brandon Scherff can go 5th overall, Quenton Nelson can go 2nd overall.

Scherff is Nelson's FLOOR. Nelson is much better.

Nelson is a Pro-Bowler in Year 1.

RE: RE: Larry Allen  
GFAN52 : 2/19/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 13836518 Flem17454 said:
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cool, did he win those SBs throwing and running and tackling all by himself?


Doubtful.
Don't worry, the REAL GM (Gettleman) will make Nelson the pick.
Cool story bro  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 7:36 pm : link
just keep punching those keys, fight the fight no one cares about. Awful poster.
RE: Not in today’s nfl he wouldnt  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13836519 UConn4523 said:
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. See, I can say whatever I want too.


Today's NFL has increased the value of Guards.

Osemele contract.

Zeitler contract.

Norwell will command $12-13 million per year.

Zach Martin will command $13-14 million per year.

Top Guards make much more than top Right Tackles and top Centers. Much much more.
Larry Allen was so good  
markky : 2/19/2018 7:38 pm : link
he'd be drafted the year BEFORE he entered the draft.
Right and go look up what hed  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 7:40 pm : link
make on his rookie deal being drafted at 2 compared to what we’d pay a top QB vs their rookie deal.

You are doing a horrendous job making your case.
RE: Cool story bro  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13836522 UConn4523 said:
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just keep punching those keys, fight the fight no one cares about. Awful poster.


Quenton Nelson:

- Best player in the draft

- Safest player in the draft

- Highest graded prospect EVER at his position

- Fills the #1 position of Need for the Giants

- Compared to Larry Allen, the greatest lineman of all time
RE: RE: This is clearly FirstballotELi  
twostepgiants : 2/19/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13836409 Flem17454 said:
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Flem care to share your credentials as you clearly know more than the draft experts including Sy.



Sy knows more about Offensive Line play than Geoff Schwartz, a former OL who is basically an OL expert?


Yes he does. Players are not scouts. Theres a reason for that
RE: Right and go look up what hed  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13836528 UConn4523 said:
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make on his rookie deal being drafted at 2 compared to what we’d pay a top QB vs their rookie deal.

You are doing a horrendous job making your case.


QB wouldn't play his 1st year.

Eli is starting in 2018.

You're paying a #2 pick to sit on the bench.

Can always get a QB in 2019.
RE: RE: Cool story bro  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13836529 Flem17454 said:
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just keep punching those keys, fight the fight no one cares about. Awful poster.



Quenton Nelson:

- Best player in the draft

- Safest player in the draft

- Highest graded prospect EVER at his position

- Fills the #1 position of Need for the Giants

- Compared to Larry Allen, the greatest lineman of all time


Guard
Don’t care
Can pay for a Guard
Who cares
Can always get a Guard in 2019  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 7:43 pm : link
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Why do people argue with trolls?  
Mike from Ohio : 2/19/2018 7:43 pm : link
Just reading how Flem posts tells you that critical thinking is not his thing. He is a fan boi. Let him be a fan boi.
RE: RE: RE: This is clearly FirstballotELi  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13836530 twostepgiants said:
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Flem care to share your credentials as you clearly know more than the draft experts including Sy.



Sy knows more about Offensive Line play than Geoff Schwartz, a former OL who is basically an OL expert?



Yes he does. Players are not scouts. Theres a reason for that



Every scout besides Sy has Nelson rated the #1 Guard by a large margin.

You just did a horrible job of making a point in ur favor.
RE: Why do people argue with trolls?  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13836534 Mike from Ohio said:
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Just reading how Flem posts tells you that critical thinking is not his thing. He is a fan boi. Let him be a fan boi.



Best player in the draft.

Safest player in the draft.

Highest graded prospect ever at his position.

Fills the Giants #1 position of Need.

NFL comp is Larry Allen.
This guy reads like a bot  
Mike from SI : 2/19/2018 7:46 pm : link
hired by Eric to drive up responses and clicks. Don't give him the time of day.
Who is his NFL comp?  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 7:47 pm : link
Unsure if it’s been mentioned...
RE: RE: RE: This is clearly FirstballotELi  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:47 pm : link
In comment 13836530 twostepgiants said:
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Flem care to share your credentials as you clearly know more than the draft experts including Sy.



Sy knows more about Offensive Line play than Geoff Schwartz, a former OL who is basically an OL expert?



Yes he does. Players are not scouts. Theres a reason for that


Check the draft grades on NFL.com

Nelson = 7.4

Hernandez = 6.11
Wynn = 6.11

All the scouts agree: Nelson is the best OL in this draft by a wide margin.
RE: RE: RE: Cool story bro  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13836532 UConn4523 said:
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just keep punching those keys, fight the fight no one cares about. Awful poster.



Quenton Nelson:

- Best player in the draft

- Safest player in the draft

- Highest graded prospect EVER at his position

- Fills the #1 position of Need for the Giants

- Compared to Larry Allen, the greatest lineman of all time



Guard
Don’t care
Can pay for a Guard
Who cares


Chris Snee had little to do with the Giants 2 SB wins.

Who am I kidding?
What are your thoughts on John Jerry?  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 7:51 pm : link
,
I think there’s a Guard or 2  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 7:58 pm : link
on every Super-Bowl team, but I could be wrong.
Please tell me your thoughts on how Nelson’s game will translate to a  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 7:59 pm : link
WCO?
Larry Allen of the Cowboys was drafted where?.....  
GFAN52 : 2/19/2018 8:00 pm : link
In the second round of the draft. Goes to show you can find value for the OL outside of the top ten picks, let alone the 2nd pick.
Not only that but in his draft  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 8:02 pm : link
an OLineman wasn’t even taken in the top 10 and there first Guard chosen was in round 2.

And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.
RE: Please tell me your thoughts on how Nelson’s game will translate to a  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 8:03 pm : link
In comment 13836552 figgy2989 said:
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WCO?


He will be the best in any offense. His impact will be greater than the best LT, QB, WR and Running Back combined. There is nothing Nelson can’t do.
Isn’t this the tool bag who always said Jerry was the best  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 8:04 pm : link
WCO guard in the entire NFL?
Re: Larry Allen is the greatest lineman of all time 3 Super Bowl rings  
JohnF : 2/19/2018 8:09 pm : link
So, using that logic, Charles Haley (5 rings) is the greatest linebacker of all time.

LT only had two.



RE: Not only that but in his draft  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 8:13 pm : link
In comment 13836554 UConn4523 said:
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an OLineman wasn’t even taken in the top 10 and there first Guard chosen was in round 2.

And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.


Scherff has indeed worked wonders...Skins won the division in 2015, had an elite offense in 2016...Scherff has helped make a mediocre QB like Cousins look like a Pro Bowler

Which is why Scot McCloughan calls it his 1 or 2 best draft pick ever
I don’t know about you guys but I’ve changed my stance  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 8:13 pm : link
I am now worried Cleveland will take Nelson and instead, I think we should trade up to secure the best player in this draft. Too risky waiting until 2 and I don’t care what it costs.
RE: Re: Larry Allen is the greatest lineman of all time 3 Super Bowl rings  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 8:15 pm : link
In comment 13836558 JohnF said:
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So, using that logic, Charles Haley (5 rings) is the greatest linebacker of all time.

LT only had two.




That wasn't the point.

The point is, All-Pro guards have a tremendous impact on forming a winning foundation.

As soon as Chris Snee started declining...the Giants run game turned to shit.
Yet Scherff was drafted as a Tackle  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 8:17 pm : link
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RE: Not only that but in his draft  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 13836554 UConn4523 said:
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an OLineman wasn’t even taken in the top 10 and there first Guard chosen was in round 2.

And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.


His draft was a long long time ago. Different era of football.

Either way - Gettleman and the Giants goal should/will be to build the best OL possible - and that starts now with Nelson.

Gettleman will make a loud statement with his 1st ever draft pick as Giants GM.

You are right  
UConn4523 : 2/19/2018 8:19 pm : link
and it better be trading up for Nelson #1 overall
RE: Yet Scherff was drafted as a Tackle  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 8:19 pm : link
In comment 13836563 figgy2989 said:
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Doesn't matter.

He's a Guard in the NFL.

Been playing Guard since Week 1 of his rookie year.

Nelson is better than Scherff anyways.
If you keep typing the same shot over and over again  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 8:20 pm : link
Does it make it any more true?


Mah...the meat loaf!
RE: Larry Allen of the Cowboys was drafted where?.....  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13836553 GFAN52 said:
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In the second round of the draft. Goes to show you can find value for the OL outside of the top ten picks, let alone the 2nd pick.



You can find anything anywhere.

Antonio Gates was a UDFA

Victor Cruz was a UDFA

James Harrison was a UDFA

Means nothing.

Nelson is a sure thing. He changes the culture and starts forming the winning foundation.
The guards later in the draft are not as good as Nelson.
RE: RE: Yet Scherff was drafted as a Tackle  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13836567 Flem17454 said:
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Doesn't matter.

He's a Guard in the NFL.

Been playing Guard since Week 1 of his rookie year.

Nelson is better than Scherff anyways.


Actually it does dunce...he lost out on the RT job in training camp and was moved to guard. The point being he was drafted as a TACKLE. The people on here are saying #2 for a Guard is unprecedented.
RE: If you keep typing the same shot over and over again  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13836568 figgy2989 said:
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Does it make it any more true?


Mah...the meat loaf!



Everything I have said in this thread is true. Everything.
RE: RE: RE: Yet Scherff was drafted as a Tackle  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13836570 figgy2989 said:
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Doesn't matter.

He's a Guard in the NFL.

Been playing Guard since Week 1 of his rookie year.

Nelson is better than Scherff anyways.



Actually it does dunce...he lost out on the RT job in training camp and was moved to guard. The point being he was drafted as a TACKLE. The people on here are saying #2 for a Guard is unprecedented.



Because Quenton Nelson is unprecedented.

And therefore worthy of the selection.
RE: RE: Not only that but in his draft  
GFAN52 : 2/19/2018 8:28 pm : link
In comment 13836564 Flem17454 said:
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an OLineman wasn’t even taken in the top 10 and there first Guard chosen was in round 2.

And Scherff at 5 has worked wonders for the Redskins, way to cite that source, genius. Talk about a franchise I’d wish we would carbon copy.



His draft was a long long time ago. Different era of football.

Either way - Gettleman and the Giants goal should/will be to build the best OL possible - and that starts now with Nelson.

Gettleman will make a loud statement with his 1st ever draft pick as Giants GM.


RE: RE: RE: Prospects like Nelson come along every 15 years?  
figgy2989 : 2/19/2018 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13836369 Flem17454 said:
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I didn't realize David DeCastro and Zach Martin were drafted 15 years ago.



I think the Skins drafted Brandon Scherff at #5 thinking he'd be an OT. He's pretty good at G. Wasted pick AT #5 though.



False.

Skins drafted Scherff with every intention of playing him at G.

Scot McGloughan calls Scherff his 1 or 2 best draft pick ever


So this is true? Please show me where the Skins has every intention of playing him at Guard. He was drafted to be the RT and lost the battle in training camp which is when he moved to Guard.

.  
arcarsenal : 2/19/2018 8:36 pm : link
Why are you guys entertaining this jackass?

He sounds just like the John Jerry troll. Probably the same guy - looking for a new guard to drool over.
Is nice to see that Nelson's agent  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/19/2018 9:43 pm : link
is posting on BBI
Highest grade for an interior OL ever????  
est1986 : 2/19/2018 10:10 pm : link
Says who? You? Even if he was... notice how you said “interior OL”... even if he was he still ain’t going 2nd overall, not in John Jerry’s wildest dreams does a fucking Guard go that high. If Nelson smoked some of that crack you are smoking he still wouldn’t get that high. No chance.
We will look back when Eli is 40 and wonder who the hell  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/19/2018 10:35 pm : link
is supposed to play quarterback that doesn't suck.
I feel like  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/19/2018 10:36 pm : link
we've met this Flem fella before..
'Take Quenton Nelson at 2 and never look back'...  
Torrag : 2/19/2018 10:45 pm : link
...that's an absolute waste of the rare draft capital the #2 pick affords us. If we don't want the QB trade down a few slots and take one of Nelson, Chubb, Fitzpatrick etc that are at the top of our board.
People just can't see past the letter "G" next to his name  
Flem17454 : 2/19/2018 11:30 pm : link
And that's a shame.

Giants have the 32nd ranked rushing attack since 2011.

How badly do you want to win?

When is this crap gonna stop?

You constantly contradict youreelf  
Jay on the Island : 2/20/2018 9:50 am : link
You used Chris Snee as an example of what we need. Snee a former early 2nd round pick in which both Wynn and Smith are comparable to Snee. With each post you continue to prove that you know nothing.
What happens in the likely event Eli is gone a year from now?  
JonC : 2/20/2018 9:53 am : link
Huge question to ask yourself before you burn a #2 overall pick on an OG, as dominant as he might prove to be in the NFL.
RE: People just can't see past the letter  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/20/2018 10:03 am : link
In comment 13836677 Flem17454 said:
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And that's a shame.

Giants have the 32nd ranked rushing attack since 2011.

How badly do you want to win?

When is this crap gonna stop?

I find myself asking this exact same question every time you post.
Guys  
UConn4523 : 2/20/2018 10:09 am : link
we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.
RE: Guys  
GFAN52 : 2/20/2018 10:11 am : link
In comment 13836903 UConn4523 said:
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we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.


Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.
RE: You constantly contradict youreelf  
Flem17454 : 2/20/2018 10:19 am : link
In comment 13836874 Jay on the Island said:
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You used Chris Snee as an example of what we need. Snee a former early 2nd round pick in which both Wynn and Smith are comparable to Snee. With each post you continue to prove that you know nothing.


Newsflash: Those guys aren't anywhere near Nelson

Here's an analogy:

If they were WR prospects, Nelson would be OBJ and Wynn would be Jarvis Landry.

Not equal prospects, not even close.
RE: What happens in the likely event Eli is gone a year from now?  
Flem17454 : 2/20/2018 10:21 am : link
In comment 13836879 JonC said:
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Huge question to ask yourself before you burn a #2 overall pick on an OG, as dominant as he might prove to be in the NFL.


Davis Webb is playing QB behind an OL that features 2 All-Pro Guards in Norwell and Nelson, with new upgraded Tackles.

That dominant OL props Webb up and allows him to succeed.

"Everything starts with the offensive line."

- Shurmur / Gettleman
RE: RE: Guys  
Flem17454 : 2/20/2018 10:22 am : link
In comment 13836910 GFAN52 said:
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we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.



Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.


He will have a HOF career.

Zach Martin will be in the HOF one day.

Nelson is Martin with more drive-power.
Davis Webb is a virtual unknown  
JonC : 2/20/2018 10:24 am : link
You're going to run with him and skip picking a blue chipper?

Makes sense.
RE: RE: RE: Guys  
GFAN52 : 2/20/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 13836927 Flem17454 said:
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we can just get a QB later. We need to trade up for Nelson and solidify a Guard spot for the next decade. Priorities, people.



Nelson is the greatest of ALLL-TIMMMEE....just kidding. Will he have a good career? Probably. Should we use the 2nd overall pick in the draft for him. NO.



He will have a HOF career.

Zach Martin will be in the HOF one day.

Nelson is Martin with more drive-power.


Hey can you tell me if will I win the PowerBall being you know the future so well.
Might be an unpopular opinion...  
Tom in DC : 2/20/2018 10:41 am : link
but some positions just don't warrant top 5 picks. Guard and Safety are such positions.
Nelson isn't "just a Guard"  
Flem17454 : 2/20/2018 11:10 am : link
He's a guy who transforms your entire offensive line. He changes the culture. A culture change the Giants desperately need right now.

The last time Giants fans have seen strong Guard play was 2009 Chris Snee.

Jerry Reese devalued Guards, it's why he's out of a job.
RE: Nelson isn't  
Breeze_94 : 2/20/2018 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13836995 Flem17454 said:
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He's a guy who transforms your entire offensive line. He changes the culture. A culture change the Giants desperately need right now.

The last time Giants fans have seen strong Guard play was 2009 Chris Snee.

Jerry Reese devalued Guards, it's why he's out of a job.


There are a ton of guys at the top of the draft playing more premium postitions who are also "culture changers"
RE: RE: What happens in the likely event Eli is gone a year from now?  
Jay on the Island : 2/21/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13836925 Flem17454 said:
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Huge question to ask yourself before you burn a #2 overall pick on an OG, as dominant as he might prove to be in the NFL.



Davis Webb is playing QB behind an OL that features 2 All-Pro Guards in Norwell and Nelson, with new upgraded Tackles.

That dominant OL props Webb up and allows him to succeed.

"Everything starts with the offensive line."

- Shurmur / Gettleman

Ah yes the good guard play will allow Webb to succeed which was evident last season when Deshone Kizer, a better prospect than Webb, succeeded with Bitonio and Zeitler and HOF LT Joe Thomas.

Why do the Giants need a guard anyway when they have John Jerry??
RE: Nelson isn't  
Jay on the Island : 2/21/2018 12:18 pm : link
In comment 13836995 Flem17454 said:
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He's a guy who transforms your entire offensive line. He changes the culture. A culture change the Giants desperately need right now.

The last time Giants fans have seen strong Guard play was 2009 Chris Snee.

Jerry Reese devalued Guards, it's why he's out of a job.

Then why hasn’t ND won a national championship during his tenure?
This guys reminds me of  
Mike in Philly : 2/21/2018 12:38 pm : link
the poster that was pounding the drum for Duke Johnson a few years ago.
RE: This guys reminds me of  
Jay on the Island : 2/21/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 13838102 Mike in Philly said:
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the poster that was pounding the drum for Duke Johnson a few years ago.

He’s the John Jerry troll with his new favorite guard.
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