Owners bend players over until spring training. Then cave anyway. Unreal lol.
Its not THAT bad. 5 years is fringe acceptable plus an opt out after 2 years, which likely would only benefit Boston. The money is maybe a little high, but contracts are nuts threes days and it’s mostly meaningless to a team like Boston anyway. They needed him and now he’s theirs.
RE: RE: Absolutely horrendous contract by the Sox Â
That this puts the Red Sox as the highest payroll in baseball at around $230 million. And they may not be done adding. I’m not sure how accurate the number is but either way, those lovable underdogs sure do continue to scrape by on pure grit and defeat the long odds, don’t they?
If I understand this right. He gets 25 mil for the first 2 years and 20 million for the last 3 years. So he can opt out after he gets the per year. Unless he really shits the bed, he will most definitely opt out.
5 years $110 million for a guy who had the highest slugging %in MLB? 45 HR's in 119 games which had NEVER been accomplished, not even the roided up Bonds. They front loaded a lousy $3 mil. extra for the next 2 years.AND they stuck to their guns with a 5 year max. contract.
a guy they had to have. 2nd half last year he may have been the best righty bat in baseball. Can't wait to get the season going. Excited to see the Yanks either make a move or even if they don't we get to see more of Andujar and Torres.
if I were a Red Sox fan. I'd kick my own ass for being a Red Sox fan, but no issue with this contract.
I'd like the Mets to find one of these MLB journeymen who suddenly figure out in their late 20's the right combination of chemicals to skirt the testing system and jump from a .650/.700 POS player to a .950/1.000 OPS player.
I wonder if he has the same trainer as Jose Bautista.
Never seen people so blase about the Sox & baseball in general. No 'Pitchers & catchers report in ___ days!' It was more Pats & Celtics talk. Man, I remember being in NE & all anyone talked about was the Sox, regardless of the date. It doesn't feel like that anymore.
Never seen people so blase about the Sox & baseball in general. No 'Pitchers & catchers report in ___ days!' It was more Pats & Celtics talk. Man, I remember being in NE & all anyone talked about was the Sox, regardless of the date. It doesn't feel like that anymore.
They lost their identity and fire when the Red Sox started winning titles.
Red Sox are going through what the Yankees went through a while ago Â
No players that the fans can get excited about. Good players. A good team. But no one likes any of them. David Price is a cancer. That kind of guy ruins things.
5 years $110 million for a guy who had the highest slugging %in MLB? 45 HR's in 119 games which had NEVER been accomplished, not even the roided up Bonds. They front loaded a lousy $3 mil. extra for the next 2 years.AND they stuck to their guns with a 5 year max. contract.
Sounds pretty damn good to me.
Good post and i didn’t know that homerun fact. Remarkable.
Of 45 home runs in 2017, 11 hit to LF and another 12 hit to Left center or dead center. Many of the remaining 22hr's were hit to right center. Bottom line, he hits to all fields.He is also a .303 hitter.
Bash the Sox deal all you want but in the end it is a very good deal. From 2015-2017, here is the comparison to Stanton:
Actually fairly equal accept Martinez has a significantly higher BA. Very interesting.
Oh and for those who will use the argument that Martinez had better protection than Stanton, Actually, not entirely correct. Last year Cabrera had a terrible year and Upton had 28 he's and Castellanos had 22 hr's. Stanton on the other hand had Ozuna with 37 HR's and Bour with 25 HR's.
Of 45 home runs in 2017, 11 hit to LF and another 12 hit to Left center or dead center. Many of the remaining 22hr's were hit to right center. Bottom line, he hits to all fields.He is also a .303 hitter.
Bash the Sox deal all you want but in the end it is a very good deal. From 2015-2017, here is the comparison to Stanton:
Actually fairly equal accept Martinez has a significantly higher BA. Very interesting.
Oh and for those who will use the argument that Martinez had better protection than Stanton, Actually, not entirely correct. Last year Cabrera had a terrible year and Upton had 28 he's and Castellanos had 22 hr's. Stanton on the other hand had Ozuna with 37 HR's and Bour with 25 HR's.
So he hit the same amount of home runs to opposite field as he did center or left field, in other words it's not incorrect info from MLB. His 22 home runs will not come anywhere near that total playing in Fenway park half of his games. They didn't just pull it out of their ass. He hits to the opposite field more than he does any other single part of the field, not the best combo for a right handed hitter in fenway
Because 3 years fits his argument, entire career doesnt
He also thinks he hits to the opposite field more than anything is incorrect info despite the stats he used actually showing it's correct info, he hits to opposite field more than he hits to any other field
They tried to turn good contact hitters , the 4 Bs, into HR hitters, under Chili Davis, and each hit 25-40 points under their hitting average.
Instead of playing small ball to win games, those 4 became HR whores with ownership approval. Now they have a small ball manager, and Hanley the Waste so they had to go out and get a bat to cover him.
They did -0- to help their rotation or their bullpen. The Yanks should own mind them h2h and I wouldn't be surprised if they finish 3rd in the Division, they had to sign Nunez for 2nd until a busted up Pedroia comes back, they have nothing in their pipeline, and now have another dick in the locker room.
Cora will take the whipping for it.
Yanks are safe from them.
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Because 3 years fits his argument, entire career doesnt
He also thinks he hits to the opposite field more than anything is incorrect info despite the stats he used actually showing it's correct info, he hits to opposite field more than he hits to any other field
LOL so basically with 250 fewer ABs over a cherry picked stretch Stanton has equal to or greater power #s?
They tried to turn good contact hitters , the 4 Bs, into HR hitters, under Chili Davis, and each hit 25-40 points under their hitting average.
Instead of playing small ball to win games, those 4 became HR whores with ownership approval. Now they have a small ball manager, and Hanley the Waste so they had to go out and get a bat to cover him.
They did -0- to help their rotation or their bullpen. The Yanks should own mind them h2h and I wouldn't be surprised if they finish 3rd in the Division, they had to sign Nunez for 2nd until a busted up Pedroia comes back, they have nothing in their pipeline, and now have another dick in the locker room.
Cora will take the whipping for it.
Yanks are safe from them.
You’re a homer at its finest, give real Yankee fans a bad name.
Forgot Mook is the expert on all things sports. My bad. Of course he knows all about Fenway. Not worth arguing with the self proclaimed guru of all. Over and out.
i don’t know if it’s a bad signing or not. Nobody does. I’d also say that *any* signing for any player is good or bad only when viewed retrospectively, and this is no different.
But what your comment *was* was the the Sox caved to Boras. As a few of us said, that’s not an accurate comment since he signed for much less than Boras promised and pretty much in line with the Sox initial offer. It’s more like Boras did the caving; the reality is that Boras misjudged the market originally and then had to bring things in line.
But a positive for the JDM signing is that it didn’t cost the Sox anything. They stay under the luxury tax penalty and don’t lose draft position, they don’t give up players, they don’t lose the ability to extend their younger guys, and they give their thin farm system a bit of time to refresh. I also don’t think it takes them out of the running for next year where the actual marquee players will be on the market.
Can only compare stats for a career? I was merely comparing it to RECENT history. And the comparison was factual. And in no way did I say he does not hit to the opposite field. I said he hits to ALL fields. Mook get over yourself. Others have opinions and yours is not gospel. Unbelievable.
who came here and said "incorrect info" when it clearly was NOT incorrect info, when half of your homers go to the opposite field and double either Center or left, you're clearly much more of an opposite field hitter than you are anything.
MLB Network didn't pull the stats or home run charts out of their ass. It was factual data. Not "incorrect" info.
MLB Network does great stuff with the #'s and analytics Â
I would take it with a little grain of salt when talking about Fenway. That park is so ridiculously quirky with its cracks and crevices and jut outs. It will be interesting to see how he does there and if he can keep this ridiculous mid career explosion up. Nice to see the free agent/trade dominoes finally starting to fall.
And he's a much-needed bat. They should be a good team this year, but they have limited flexibility to add pieces, and unless they get extraordinary health out of that rotation it's got some huge question marks. An injury to Sale or TJS for Price and they're almost in Baltimore territory as a team that has to put up 7 or 8 to win. They do have a pen though.
Stick it up your arse. I have been on BBI for many years and you are far and away the biggest a-hole on here. Can't remember seeing a post of yours when someone provided an opposing viewpoint that you didn't berate then or insult them.
You post like you are 12 years old. Grow the hell up. You sir are the moron.
Dumbrowski(sp. intentional) continuing to be Dumb browski
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Owners bend players over until spring training. Then cave anyway. Unreal lol.
Dumbrowski(sp. intentional) continuing to be Dumb browski
The worse, the better....
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Owners bend players over until spring training. Then cave anyway. Unreal lol.
Dumbrowski(sp. intentional) continuing to be Dumb browski
Sounds pretty damn good to me.
I hope he stinks and opts in for 5 years but we will see
Screw the Red Sox, Not scared of them .
They already are.
I'd like the Mets to find one of these MLB journeymen who suddenly figure out in their late 20's the right combination of chemicals to skirt the testing system and jump from a .650/.700 POS player to a .950/1.000 OPS player.
I wonder if he has the same trainer as Jose Bautista.
They lost their identity and fire when the Red Sox started winning titles.
You’re joking right? Boras asked for $210 million. It could end up only being 2/50 for the Sox in his prime.
It’s a complete steal UGH. Boras failed big time
Sounds pretty damn good to me.
Good post and i didn’t know that homerun fact. Remarkable.
Or the last 150 games were an outlier, he'll be nearly 33 years old and gladly ride out the 3/75 has left on the deal.
Mystifying comment.
This is anything but "horrendous"
Good hitter, but hits to the opposite field more than anything basically and in Fenway a handful of his home runs will turn to outs
Bash the Sox deal all you want but in the end it is a very good deal. From 2015-2017, here is the comparison to Stanton:
BA- Martinez .296, Stanton .265
HR-Martinez -105, Stanton 113
RBI-Martinez-274, Stanton 273
Slugging %-Martinez-.580, Stanton .590
OBP-Martinez .363, Stanton .354
OPS-Martinez .943, Stanton .933
Actually fairly equal accept Martinez has a significantly higher BA. Very interesting.
Oh and for those who will use the argument that Martinez had better protection than Stanton, Actually, not entirely correct. Last year Cabrera had a terrible year and Upton had 28 he's and Castellanos had 22 hr's. Stanton on the other hand had Ozuna with 37 HR's and Bour with 25 HR's.
Bash the Sox deal all you want but in the end it is a very good deal. From 2015-2017, here is the comparison to Stanton:
BA- Martinez .296, Stanton .265
HR-Martinez -105, Stanton 113
RBI-Martinez-274, Stanton 273
Slugging %-Martinez-.580, Stanton .590
OBP-Martinez .363, Stanton .354
OPS-Martinez .943, Stanton .933
Actually fairly equal accept Martinez has a significantly higher BA. Very interesting.
Oh and for those who will use the argument that Martinez had better protection than Stanton, Actually, not entirely correct. Last year Cabrera had a terrible year and Upton had 28 he's and Castellanos had 22 hr's. Stanton on the other hand had Ozuna with 37 HR's and Bour with 25 HR's.
So he hit the same amount of home runs to opposite field as he did center or left field, in other words it's not incorrect info from MLB. His 22 home runs will not come anywhere near that total playing in Fenway park half of his games. They didn't just pull it out of their ass. He hits to the opposite field more than he does any other single part of the field, not the best combo for a right handed hitter in fenway
Because 3 years fits his argument, entire career doesnt
He also thinks he hits to the opposite field more than anything is incorrect info despite the stats he used actually showing it's correct info, he hits to opposite field more than he hits to any other field
Instead of playing small ball to win games, those 4 became HR whores with ownership approval. Now they have a small ball manager, and Hanley the Waste so they had to go out and get a bat to cover him.
They did -0- to help their rotation or their bullpen. The Yanks should own mind them h2h and I wouldn't be surprised if they finish 3rd in the Division, they had to sign Nunez for 2nd until a busted up Pedroia comes back, they have nothing in their pipeline, and now have another dick in the locker room.
Cora will take the whipping for it.
Yanks are safe from them.
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why only use numbers the past 3 seasons?
Because 3 years fits his argument, entire career doesnt
He also thinks he hits to the opposite field more than anything is incorrect info despite the stats he used actually showing it's correct info, he hits to opposite field more than he hits to any other field
LOL so basically with 250 fewer ABs over a cherry picked stretch Stanton has equal to or greater power #s?
What point is this making?
Instead of playing small ball to win games, those 4 became HR whores with ownership approval. Now they have a small ball manager, and Hanley the Waste so they had to go out and get a bat to cover him.
They did -0- to help their rotation or their bullpen. The Yanks should own mind them h2h and I wouldn't be surprised if they finish 3rd in the Division, they had to sign Nunez for 2nd until a busted up Pedroia comes back, they have nothing in their pipeline, and now have another dick in the locker room.
Cora will take the whipping for it.
Yanks are safe from them.
You’re a homer at its finest, give real Yankee fans a bad name.
But what your comment *was* was the the Sox caved to Boras. As a few of us said, that’s not an accurate comment since he signed for much less than Boras promised and pretty much in line with the Sox initial offer. It’s more like Boras did the caving; the reality is that Boras misjudged the market originally and then had to bring things in line.
MLB Network didn't pull the stats or home run charts out of their ass. It was factual data. Not "incorrect" info.
Or the last 150 games were an outlier, he'll be nearly 33 years old and gladly ride out the 3/75 has left on the deal.
You post like you are 12 years old. Grow the hell up. You sir are the moron.