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NFT: Louisville basketball forfeiting all wins 2011-2015

Greg from LI : 2/20/2018 12:17 pm
2013 title vacated. Press conference happening now.

If only they had done what true champions do and concocted phony classes to keep their players eligible....sad
I get the whole thing-  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/20/2018 12:19 pm : link
But does this really make anyone say to themselves, 'Louisville didn't win it all in '13'?
of course not  
Greg from LI : 2/20/2018 12:24 pm : link
which is why vacating titles is a silly practice. It's not as if people won't remember that Louisville won the games.
Louisville...  
bw in dc : 2/20/2018 12:46 pm : link
has over $700M in their endowment. That's where they should be hit. And have coaching bans, fines, etc. But taking it out on the players who did the work on the court is more evidence that the NCAA is as dumb as ever.
RE: Louisville...  
AcidTest : 2/20/2018 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13837112 bw in dc said:
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has over $700M in their endowment. That's where they should be hit. And have coaching bans, fines, etc. But taking it out on the players who did the work on the court is more evidence that the NCAA is as dumb as ever.


Agreed.

NCAA.
FIFA.
IOC.

GO AWAY.
RE: RE: Louisville...  
bw in dc : 2/20/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 13837114 AcidTest said:
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In comment 13837112 bw in dc said:


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Agreed.

NCAA.
FIFA.
IOC.

GO AWAY.


That is an outstanding trifecta. In order of disgraceful, I would go FIFA, IOC, then the NCAA. ;)
I knew someone would whine about fake classes  
MetsAreBack : 2/20/2018 12:55 pm : link
But one and dones (at top 10 school no less) that don't even stick around for spring exams -- nothing to see here
"I knew someone would whine about fake classes......"  
Greg from LI : 2/20/2018 12:57 pm : link
"....a statement which is entirely true."

There, finished your sentence for you.
Well..  
MetsAreBack : 2/20/2018 1:02 pm : link
I'm just expressing my hatred for K and what the Duke program has become. Not that I've ever been a fan but at least I used to respect his program a little.

Anyway it's called Deflecting.

Kind of like what you did in the OP when the subject matter is Louisville
so michigan  
lpdcan28 : 2/20/2018 1:04 pm : link
is now the national champ? i think thats who they played in the final.
fake classes are part of the student athlete charade for these  
Heisenberg : 2/20/2018 1:06 pm : link
programs.
RE: I get the whole thing-  
Rocky369 : 2/20/2018 1:07 pm : link
In comment 13837072 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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But does this really make anyone say to themselves, 'Louisville didn't win it all in '13'?
There is some BBI knucklehead that claims Shula only had a .303 win percentage as a head coach.
RE: RE: Louisville...  
Boy Cord : 2/20/2018 1:07 pm : link
In comment 13837114 AcidTest said:
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In comment 13837112 bw in dc said:


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has over $700M in their endowment. That's where they should be hit. And have coaching bans, fines, etc. But taking it out on the players who did the work on the court is more evidence that the NCAA is as dumb as ever.



Agreed.

NCAA.
FIFA.
IOC.

GO AWAY.


And they can take Penn State, Michigan State amd Baylor with them.
Death Penalty at a big time school  
weeg in the bronx : 2/20/2018 1:08 pm : link
that would change how programs are run
An organization..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/20/2018 1:08 pm : link
that restored JoePa's wins but have kept Boeheim's off the books really isn't a model of fairness.
the NCAA is a joke. Coaches can make million$$ off of  
Victor in CT : 2/20/2018 1:13 pm : link
sneakers deals but players can't take laundry or food money. Thugs of every kind are tolerated so long as they win. No pretense of education made, just eligibility. What a disgrace.
LOL...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/20/2018 1:20 pm : link
Just read Pitino got a tattoo on his back celebrating the '13 title.
RE:  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/20/2018 1:22 pm : link
In comment 13837126 Greg from LI said:
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"....a statement which is entirely true."

There, finished your sentence for you.

The two are not mutually exclusive though - MAB's point is also valid. The programs that have a bunch of one-and-done players are not technically breaking any rules when their players barely participate in more than one semester of college, but is it any less of a farce?
UVA has neither fake classes nor one and dones  
Greg from LI : 2/20/2018 1:25 pm : link
So I will maintain my air of superiority, thankyouverymuch
I think Duke has some  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/20/2018 1:36 pm : link
shady stuff going on. Then again, I hate them so I'm biased.
RE: I think Duke has some  
Greg from LI : 2/20/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13837185 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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shady stuff going on. Then again, I hate them so I'm biased.


Of course they do. It's not a coincidence that as soon as they hired Capel, right after Oklahoma fired him for giving improper benefits, they suddenly start out-Kentuckying Kentucky with the OADs.
RE: I think Duke has some  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 2/20/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13837185 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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shady stuff going on. Then again, I hate them so I'm biased.


One of the things that rarely gets brought up with Duke is Nolan Smith's stepfather, Curtis Malone (DC Assault). You had to pay to play with Curtis.
Or Chris Duhon's mom  
Greg from LI : 2/20/2018 2:22 pm : link
and her never-publicly posted job working for a Duke booster that she wasn't qualified for.
Greg---How come you have such a hardon for the Tar Heels?  
tangled up in blue : 2/20/2018 4:30 pm : link
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RE: An organization..  
FStubbs : 2/20/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13837147 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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that restored JoePa's wins but have kept Boeheim's off the books really isn't a model of fairness.


This. The NCAA lost any semblance of fairness when Penn State not only didn't get the death penalty, but Joe Paterno's records were restored.
RE: Louisville...  
Matt M. : 2/20/2018 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13837112 bw in dc said:
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has over $700M in their endowment. That's where they should be hit. And have coaching bans, fines, etc. But taking it out on the players who did the work on the court is more evidence that the NCAA is as dumb as ever.
+1. I never liked or understood the vacating wins/titles, especially years later.
RE: Greg---How come you have such a hardon for the Tar Heels?  
Greg from LI : 2/20/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13837384 tangled up in blue said:
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A)They're a rival

B)They blatantly cheated for two decades and got away with it because some non-athletes also took the phony classes, since they were listed in the course catalog to maintain the illusion that they were legitimate. All this while maintaining their haughtiness about the "Carolina Way". They're frauds, pure and simple.
RE: Well..  
Matt M. : 2/20/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13837132 MetsAreBack said:
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I'm just expressing my hatred for K and what the Duke program has become. Not that I've ever been a fan but at least I used to respect his program a little.

Anyway it's called Deflecting.

Kind of like what you did in the OP when the subject matter is Louisville
I get the impression here that most who have been up in arms about the UNC debacle despise Duke and Coach K equally as much. It's just a joke how the NCAA handled the UNC scandal, which is much more relevant to this conversation than Duke.
RE: An organization..  
Matt M. : 2/20/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13837147 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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that restored JoePa's wins but have kept Boeheim's off the books really isn't a model of fairness.
Another joke.
Greg-- Thanks for answering  
tangled up in blue : 2/20/2018 7:31 pm : link
I root for the Heels and agree there should have been some penalties. Nothing to be proud of with the way that deal went down.

I take it you root for UVA. TB is a great coach who gets the most out of his players. Always fun to watch them play defense.

I'd would be great if they play again in the NCAA's. Probably be closer than the last game
A sick part of me would love to see UVA  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/20/2018 7:47 pm : link
be busted for some infractions just to see Greg's response. But I agree with Greg that Bennett & that program seems clean. I actually don't mind UVA @ all & think Bennett is a helluva coach.
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