until there's no other option, even if it means missing games.
agree, but he has a torn tendon in his foot, I'm not a medical expert obviously, but that doesn't sound like something that heals with rest. I think he probably tried to play through it not realizing the severity (and although they had a rough start the season clearly wasn't lost by November) and he didn't tell anyone how bad the pain was and then the team sat on it with their own medical staff before sending him to a specialist (which just happened last weekend).
It could be, diagnosing such an injury isn't always clear cut without going in there, I've been there (with other body parts).
If they're going to deal with that repulsive organization, they had better get absolute top dollar. Doing anything to help that team makes my stomach churn.
If they're going to deal with that repulsive organization, they had better get absolute top dollar. Doing anything to help that team makes my stomach churn.
Friedman specifically mentioned Daniel Sprong, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Sprong is a fast, skilled, sniper who is 20 years old.
He's outscoring Chytil in the AHL (granted Chytil is 2 ywars younger, but Sprong was a 2nd round pick). And he's not a C, but is reportedly defensively sound (won't claim to have witnessed that), but if they offer Sprong for Grabner you send Grabner on the next flight.
Sprong is the kind of player I'd target in a Grabner trade.
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Neither Rick Nash nor Michael Grabner will play for #NYR tonight. Team closing in deals, so right now, this is just precautionary. Lettieri and Carey will be in.
Out indefinitely with a concussion. Montreal in full tank mode
Well if the Rangers are holding out Nash and Grabner need to try and get in the Dahlin battle.
I do like that MTL called up Lindgren. He looks like a legit future backup. If Niemi starts tonight it means MTL wants to lose. He's about as nimble as an ice berg in net.
Hopefully MTL holds out Pacioretty, Galchenyuk and Drouin too just to make sure.
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3h3 hours ago
NYI and pending UFA forward Josh Bailey are closing in on a multi-year contract extension. Still finalizing some details but likely to be an AAV of around $5M with a term of five or six years. #TradeCentre
They have to go like 4-17 the rest of the way. We might have a shot but Ottawa Montreal buffalo Arizona have something to say about their suck too
Anyway we're not one or even two players away ... this is going to take a few years. I'm worried Dolan will never let a 'process' play out. His ticket prices are too high.
Based on my recent conversation with Devils assistant GM Tom Fitzgerald, here's what I've got on D Yegor Rykov: (20, 6-2, 205, St. Petersburg SKA, KHL) Poised puck mover but must be more agile. Not leaving KHL soon. (Acquired: 2016 draft, 132nd overall)
Should be a pretty high 2nd rounder. Im sure if someone was offering a 1st rounder we would have taken that. I dont think Grabner was realistically worth a 1st rounder though. Rykov was their best D prospect. Rangers may be the SKA Rangers in a few years between Buch, Kovalchuk?, Shestyorkin, and Rykov
$8 mil next two years to sit on a beach somewhere ? Fuck that, next year is a 40 point season. Make him coach the year and live with his choices. There's not much to 'develop' next year besides Chytil and Andersson and he's ok with young forwards anyway.
Fire him next summer if you want but next year is certainly a lost year. The development / ascension years start when these lousy contracts roll off - Staal, smith, even lundqvist - in 2021.
Should be a pretty high 2nd rounder. Im sure if someone was offering a 1st rounder we would have taken that. I dont think Grabner was realistically worth a 1st rounder though. Rykov was their best D prospect. Rangers may be the SKA Rangers in a few years between Buch, Kovalchuk?, Shestyorkin, and Rykov
Pretty high ? It's going to be like the 20th pick in the second round. But I agree no one was offering a 1st.
I feel like we could have perhaps leveraged a better prospect with no pick or a better pick with no prospect - either of which I think I'd have preferred to this.
But, then again, I don't know what was offered and what wasn't - so I'd really just be guessing.
Pretty high ? It's going to be like the 20th pick in the second round. But I agree no one was offering a 1st.
Of all the interested playoff teams their 2nd rounder is going to be among the best. Im sure Gorton was holding out trying to get a Toronto, Pitt, Dal, Nashville, Boston 1st and it was evident none were going to do it
Rykov has played regularly for SKA as a 19-20 year old
But I've lost faith in my 4 GMs - all of whom suck at building their teams - I'm out of faith when it comes to 'trust them they know what they're doing'
Yet all 4 picking in the top 7-8 this fucking year
Nice writeup - not sure how qualified that person is to evaluate talent, but if those things are true, I'll feel a little better.
I obviously have never seen the kid play and didn't know he existed until 20 minutes ago, so I won't sit here and make a big stink about him one way or another.
Feels like a "meh" return, but maybe we did better than I think.
Now, the real question becomes whether or not we can get him over here.
Unrelated to this, but I gotta say - I really liked what I saw from Georgiev tonight. I want to see a lot more of him this last quarter of the season. Pure evaluation time. Playing him often gets him more NHL experience and keeps unnecessary weight off Hank in meaningless games.
MTL isn't a great measuring stick but he faced a lot of high quality shots because of how horrendous we are defensively and he made some pretty damn impressive saves.
Oh I'm fine with Lundqvist announcing a 'concussion'
But I've lost faith in my 4 GMs - all of whom suck at building their teams - I'm out of faith when it comes to 'trust them they know what they're doing'
Yet all 4 picking in the top 7-8 this fucking year
Players who have played for the Rangers, Islanders, amd Devils. There aren't that many of them -PA Parenteau, Arron Asham, Sergei Nemchinov, John Vanbiesbrouck, maybe a few others
They set the price at a first and a prospect and instead got a second and by all accounts a solid prospect.
Its not a steal, but its a fair return. Rangers now have 5 picks in the first three rounds and will end up with at least 7, and potentially three first rounders.
The NHL is giving the NFL a run for its money when it comes to parity. The top 3 teams from last years draft are all in playoff position this season. Declaring next season lost already is just silly. Nothing that happens on these remaining games is an indicator for next season. Its a dead team on the ice just playing out the string
that for a two year $3mm deal they got 52 goals, then a second rounder and a prospect.
Thats pretty good value. Plenty to be annoyed with Gorton about, but I think he did ok here. For a rental he likely did the best he could do. The fact that they dealt with NJ shows they took the best deal out there
I know, I said his other team(s) have it over MTL. I wsn't sure if it was just Penguins or maybe Blackhawks or Kings too.
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until there's no other option, even if it means missing games.
agree, but he has a torn tendon in his foot, I'm not a medical expert obviously, but that doesn't sound like something that heals with rest. I think he probably tried to play through it not realizing the severity (and although they had a rough start the season clearly wasn't lost by November) and he didn't tell anyone how bad the pain was and then the team sat on it with their own medical staff before sending him to a specialist (which just happened last weekend).
It could be, diagnosing such an injury isn't always clear cut without going in there, I've been there (with other body parts).
If they're going to deal with that repulsive organization, they had better get absolute top dollar. Doing anything to help that team makes my stomach churn.
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If they're going to deal with that repulsive organization, they had better get absolute top dollar. Doing anything to help that team makes my stomach churn.
Friedman specifically mentioned Daniel Sprong, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Sprong is a fast, skilled, sniper who is 20 years old.
He's outscoring Chytil in the AHL (granted Chytil is 2 ywars younger, but Sprong was a 2nd round pick). And he's not a C, but is reportedly defensively sound (won't claim to have witnessed that), but if they offer Sprong for Grabner you send Grabner on the next flight.
Sprong is the kind of player I'd target in a Grabner trade.
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3h3 hours ago
Action definitely picking up on Rangers' Grabner. Cheap cap hit. Teams coming harder at NYR today it seems...
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Neither Rick Nash nor Michael Grabner will play for #NYR tonight. Team closing in deals, so right now, this is just precautionary. Lettieri and Carey will be in.
4:59 PM - Feb 22, 2018
Well if the Rangers are holding out Nash and Grabner need to try and get in the Dahlin battle.
I do like that MTL called up Lindgren. He looks like a legit future backup. If Niemi starts tonight it means MTL wants to lose. He's about as nimble as an ice berg in net.
Hopefully MTL holds out Pacioretty, Galchenyuk and Drouin too just to make sure.
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3h3 hours ago
NYI and pending UFA forward Josh Bailey are closing in on a multi-year contract extension. Still finalizing some details but likely to be an AAV of around $5M with a term of five or six years. #TradeCentre
What were the odds of this goalie matchup taking place February 22nd back in October.
Let this kid keep getting starts. No need to keep beating up Hank in a lost season.
The team we are icing now is truly awful - I don't see us winning more than 5 games the rest of the way.
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Anyway we're not one or even two players away ... this is going to take a few years. I'm worried Dolan will never let a 'process' play out. His ticket prices are too high.
This is a putrid hockey team now. We can't score, we suck defensively.
We are 3-12 in our last 15 games and we're only going to get worse now without Nash, Grabner and Mac (assuming they're dealt)
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Hearing Grabner has been traded to the Devils. Stay tuned.
10:27 PM - 22 Feb 2018
Meh.
Gotta get a 1st rd pick for Nash.
I'd just have assumed gotten vegas' 2nd rounder. Disappointing if true.
Based on my recent conversation with Devils assistant GM Tom Fitzgerald, here's what I've got on D Yegor Rykov: (20, 6-2, 205, St. Petersburg SKA, KHL) Poised puck mover but must be more agile. Not leaving KHL soon. (Acquired: 2016 draft, 132nd overall)
Underwhelming.
Fire him next summer if you want but next year is certainly a lost year. The development / ascension years start when these lousy contracts roll off - Staal, smith, even lundqvist - in 2021.
Pretty high ? It's going to be like the 20th pick in the second round. But I agree no one was offering a 1st.
But, then again, I don't know what was offered and what wasn't - so I'd really just be guessing.
Pretty high ? It's going to be like the 20th pick in the second round. But I agree no one was offering a 1st.
Of all the interested playoff teams their 2nd rounder is going to be among the best. Im sure Gorton was holding out trying to get a Toronto, Pitt, Dal, Nashville, Boston 1st and it was evident none were going to do it
Saw this in the BSB comments. I can't say I know who this is, but it's encouraging
Yet all 4 picking in the top 7-8 this fucking year
I obviously have never seen the kid play and didn't know he existed until 20 minutes ago, so I won't sit here and make a big stink about him one way or another.
Feels like a "meh" return, but maybe we did better than I think.
Now, the real question becomes whether or not we can get him over here.
Unrelated to this, but I gotta say - I really liked what I saw from Georgiev tonight. I want to see a lot more of him this last quarter of the season. Pure evaluation time. Playing him often gets him more NHL experience and keeps unnecessary weight off Hank in meaningless games.
MTL isn't a great measuring stick but he faced a lot of high quality shots because of how horrendous we are defensively and he made some pretty damn impressive saves.
Yet all 4 picking in the top 7-8 this fucking year
Look at the bright side, the Mets suck.
Its not a steal, but its a fair return. Rangers now have 5 picks in the first three rounds and will end up with at least 7, and potentially three first rounders.
The NHL is giving the NFL a run for its money when it comes to parity. The top 3 teams from last years draft are all in playoff position this season. Declaring next season lost already is just silly. Nothing that happens on these remaining games is an indicator for next season. Its a dead team on the ice just playing out the string
Thats pretty good value. Plenty to be annoyed with Gorton about, but I think he did ok here. For a rental he likely did the best he could do. The fact that they dealt with NJ shows they took the best deal out there