I know I am in the minority, but would love the Giants to draft Mayfield. Trade down a few spots if the thought is, he is not worth the number 2 spot.
I think he better than the rest (just not as tall).
Those comparing him to Manziel, should instead compare him to Brees.
I don't see how that factors in, Winston and Mariota both declined to attend the draft. Joe Thomas skipped the draft to go fishing.
Brees also played at Purdue with a shit line and little talent. His release, accuracy, and decision making were incredible as he was always under pressure. I still remember watching him play and saying this guys gonna be incredible....
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Has a much stronger arm than mayfield. Mayfield accuracy is due a lot to the players being open because of scheme. He hasn’t shown that he can be the pocket passer Brees is at this point. Comparison is weak
Brees also played at Purdue with a shit line and little talent. His release, accuracy, and decision making were incredible as he was always under pressure. I still remember watching him play and saying this guys gonna be incredible....
Yup I don’t see the comparison except for size.
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skipping the draft is not going to help him rise that is for sure.
I don't see how that factors in, Winston and Mariota both declined to attend the draft. Joe Thomas skipped the draft to go fishing.
Because teams are using his size against him the draft is the exact place to show size does not matter in direct comp with the other top QBs ....
I disagree with the arm strength but agree with the pocket passer comment. What Brees does so well is manipulate passing lanes. That's what makes him so great. Not saying Mayfield can't learn to do that but that's kinda what makes the comparison a stretch for me.
Russell Wilson is the best comparison from my perspective.
Best case: Wilson
Worst case: Manziel
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skipping the draft is not going to help him rise that is for sure.
I don't see how that factors in, Winston and Mariota both declined to attend the draft. Joe Thomas skipped the draft to go fishing.
Because teams are using his size against him the draft is the exact place to show size does not matter in direct comp with the other top QBs ....
Worst logic ever.
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In comment 13837093 MotownGIANTS said:
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skipping the draft is not going to help him rise that is for sure.
I don't see how that factors in, Winston and Mariota both declined to attend the draft. Joe Thomas skipped the draft to go fishing.
Because teams are using his size against him the draft is the exact place to show size does not matter in direct comp with the other top QBs ....
Yea I don't agree. These teams we'll have their conclusion on Mayfield before draft night.
Darnold, Allen, Rosen before Mayfield.
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Has a much stronger arm than mayfield. Mayfield accuracy is due a lot to the players being open because of scheme. He hasn’t shown that he can be the pocket passer Brees is at this point. Comparison is weak
I disagree with the arm strength but agree with the pocket passer comment. What Brees does so well is manipulate passing lanes. That's what makes him so great. Not saying Mayfield can't learn to do that but that's kinda what makes the comparison a stretch for me.
Russell Wilson is the best comparison from my perspective.
Best case: Wilson
Worst case: Manziel
UGH. If Josh Allen is taken at #2, forget the remote. I'm throwing coffee tables.
Gettleman isn't trying to get fired in 2-3 years.
Delete this useless thread.
Like the poster above mentions, he is only 6'0 tall, and comes from a gimmick spread offense that played against the big 12.
Mayfield IMO will be a solid NFL QB, but for the most part when you pick as high as the Giants do, you have the luxury of looking for a guy who checks ALL of the boxes, and there are a few too many question marks with Mayfield.
He absolutely has a stronger arm than Mayfield. Mayfield can throw the ball far but he doesn’t have the zip on his ball that Brees has.
Wilson is listed 5'11" and 215 lbs. Mayfield at the senior bowl was 6' and 216 lbs. I don't know where you're going with the "similar size but Wilson is thicker" talk. Their body composition appears to be very similar from what I see.
Daniel Jeremiah polled 5 league executives asking for comparisons, 1 of them said Wilson.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000839431/article/ask-5-whats-best-nfl-comp-for-oklahoma-qb-baker-mayfield
Here's a stat comparison of the two from college:
https://cfbcomparisons.com/russell-wilson-vs-baker-mayfield-college-comparison/
I also think you underestimate Baker Mayfields arm strength. He wasn't far behind Josh Allen at the Senior Bowl.
Mayfield isn't quite the athlete Wilson is obviously. I don't expect him to put up Wilson like numbers at the combine but they have a similar playing style (ability to move in the pocket or escape and extend plays) and a lot of the same traits (quick release, throwing accurately on the run, command).