What would your Giants offensive lineup look like in 2018?

Defense
34DE Tomlinson, Okwara
NT Snacks, Robert Thomas (ERFA Tender for 630k)
34DE JPP, Mike Pennel* (2 yrs, 3.8 mil)
OLB Vernon, Moss
ILB Goodson, Christian Sam* (7th rounder)
ILB Kevin Minter* (FA 2 yrs, 7mil)
OLB Uchenna Nwosu (3rd rounder)
CB Jenkins, Christian Campbell (5th rounder)
CB Apple, Cockrell (re-sign 3yrs, 17mil)
FS Armani Watts (4th Round comp pick), Thompson
SS Collins, Adams

Has the goods and they don't have to draft a QB man would that be such a Luxury.

In comment 13837305 Breeze_94 said:

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OLB Vernon, Moss ILB Goodson, Christian Sam* (7th rounder) ILB Kevin Minter* (FA 2 yrs, 7mil) OLB Uchenna Nwosu (3rd rounder)

Maybe switch Minter for Mark Barron if he is released by the Rams. He is similar to Deonne Buccanon

In comment 13837305 Breeze_94 said:

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Defense 34DE Tomlinson, Okwara NT Snacks, Robert Thomas (ERFA Tender for 630k) 34DE JPP, Mike Pennel* (2 yrs, 3.8 mil) OLB Vernon, Moss ILB Goodson, Christian Sam* (7th rounder) ILB Kevin Minter* (FA 2 yrs, 7mil) OLB Uchenna Nwosu (3rd rounder) CB Jenkins, Christian Campbell (5th rounder) CB Apple, Cockrell (re-sign 3yrs, 17mil) FS Armani Watts (4th Round comp pick), Thompson SS Collins, Adams

Looks good. At first glance I see no DRC. I hope not.

In comment 13837310 Rolyrock said:

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Has the goods and they don't have to draft a QB man would that be such a Luxury.

My reasoning for Barkley is he is the BPA.

I think Darnold goes to the Browns at #1, so he is off the board otherwise he'd be my pick.

It comes down to Barkley/Rosen/Allen for me

-Rosen too many medical issues, pro-ready is his best trait as a prospect but the Giants have Eli. Apparently he had to quit playing tennis b/c of a shoulder injury? (Or at least according to Cris Carter on FS1)

-Allen- less than 60% in the Mountain West conference, too big of a gamble at #2 with a talent like Barkley on the board

In comment 13837313 Elisthebest said:

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In comment 13837305 Breeze_94 said: Quote: Defense 34DE Tomlinson, Okwara NT Snacks, Robert Thomas (ERFA Tender for 630k) 34DE JPP, Mike Pennel* (2 yrs, 3.8 mil) OLB Vernon, Moss ILB Goodson, Christian Sam* (7th rounder) ILB Kevin Minter* (FA 2 yrs, 7mil) OLB Uchenna Nwosu (3rd rounder) CB Jenkins, Christian Campbell (5th rounder) CB Apple, Cockrell (re-sign 3yrs, 17mil) FS Armani Watts (4th Round comp pick), Thompson SS Collins, Adams Looks good. At first glance I see no DRC. I hope not.

Could keep DRC instead of Cockrell. I went with Cockrell because he is younger and a bit cheaper, but I like DRC just not sure about paying him 8.5 mil to be on the field for less than 50% of the defensive snaps.

Sure you can.

LT - Orlando Brown

LG - Andrew Norwell

C - Brett Jones

RG - Quenton Nelson

RT - Ereck Flowers' vs cheap veteran

In comment 13837317 Breeze_94 said:

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In comment 13837310 Rolyrock said: Quote: Has the goods and they don't have to draft a QB man would that be such a Luxury. My reasoning for Barkley is he is the BPA. I think Darnold goes to the Browns at #1, so he is off the board otherwise he'd be my pick. It comes down to Barkley/Rosen/Allen for me -Rosen too many medical issues, pro-ready is his best trait as a prospect but the Giants have Eli. Apparently he had to quit playing tennis b/c of a shoulder injury? (Or at least according to Cris Carter on FS1) -Allen- less than 60% in the Mountain West conference, too big of a gamble at #2 with a talent like Barkley on the board

Darnold throws too many picks for my liking.

In comment 13837339 Flem17454 said:

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Sure you can. LT - Orlando Brown LG - Andrew Norwell C - Brett Jones RG - Quenton Nelson RT - Ereck Flowers' vs cheap veteran

I actually really like Orlando Brown. Some compare him to Flowers (Geoff Schwartz did) but he has way better technique. It's not even close. That guy is like a wall on the blind-side at 6'8, 350lbs.

Best part, as of now he can definitely be had at pick #34 as the OT3 behind McGlinchey and Connor Williams. Cam Robinson went in a similar range last year. Ramcyzk lasted until 32.

QB: Geno Smith
HB: William Joseph
FB: Sinorice Moss
WR: Tam Hopkins, Matt Dodge
TE: Eli Manning

LT: Ereck Flowers
LG: Preston Parker
OC: Trey Junkin
RG: Reuben Randle
RT: Also Eli Manning

QB Eli Manning, Sam Darnold, Davis Webb
RB Kerryon Johnson (3rd and 4th round compensatory in trade up), Wayne Gallman, Orleans Darkwa (2 years 5 mill), Paul Perkins
TE Evan Engram, Rhett Ellison, Jerrell Adams
WR Odell Beckham, Sterling Shepard, Brandon Marshall (pay cut to 3.5 mill), Jake Wieneke (6th rounder), Roger Lewis
LT Martinas Rankin (2nd rounder pick), Chad Wheeler
LG Andrew Norwell (6 years 70 mill), John Jerry
C Brett Jones
RG Justin Pugh (4 years 50 mill)
RT Ereck Flowers

DE Jason Pierre-Paul, Dalvin Tomlinson, Kentavius Street (5th rounder), Romeo Okwara
NT Snack Harrison, Robert Thomas
OLB Olivier Vernon, Devon Kennard (3 years 8.5 mill), Avery Moss
ILB BJ Goodson, Nigel Bradham (4 years 25 mill), Fred Warner (4th rounder), Calvin Munson
CB Janoris Jenkins, DRC, Ross Cockrell (2 years 8 mill), Eli Apple
FS Darian Thompson, Andrew Adams
SS Landon Collins

8 players remaining would be late FA picks up in the secondary (at both S and CB), cheap old OLB ER type (like Julius Peppers). And UDFAs potentially at TE, WR (knocking off either Marshall or Lewis), RB (knocking off Perkins), etc.

In comment 13837339 Flem17454 said:

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Sure you can. LT - Orlando Brown LG - Andrew Norwell C - Brett Jones RG - Quenton Nelson RT - Ereck Flowers' vs cheap veteran

Nelson @2 is a little high, value wise; and can he play RG?
Can EF handle a speed or flexible ER better there than he can at LT? Will OB make it to 34? Finally, can we get AN?
Whole lotta ??? there. But if we can be on a + roll the way much of our last 6-7 offseason have been on a - roll, having a hopefully good, YOUNG, OL would be excellent for Eli's last year or 2 as well as whoever the new QB is, over the next 3 seasons at least(with a tweak or 2 in that time).

In comment 13837339 Flem17454 said:

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Sure you can. LT - Orlando Brown LG - Andrew Norwell C - Brett Jones RG - Quenton Nelson RT - Ereck Flowers' vs cheap veteran

You are f*cking insufferable.

QB Eli, Webb
RB Rookie #2 or #3 (Michael, Jone, Guidice, Chubb), Gallman, Perkins, Darkwa
FB TBD
WR OBJ, Shepard, VET TBD* (FA 1yr, 3mil incentive-laden), Roger Lewis, Travis Rudolph (ERFA Tender)
TE Engram, Ellison, Adams
LT Solder* (2nd Round), Wheeler
LG Andrew Norwell* (FA 5 yrs, 62mil), Bisnowatty
C Rookie #2 or #3 pick (Price, Ragnow, Clapp, Wynn), Brett Jones (Tender for 2.4 mil)
RG Rookie #2 or #3 (Hernandez, Wynn, Other), Fluker, John Greco (Vet min deal 1 yr)
RT Flowers/Wheeler/ Vet TBD

Picks used #2,#2, #3 RB, OL, OL FA 2 premium 2 mid level

In comment 13837376 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 13837339 Flem17454 said: Quote: Sure you can. LT - Orlando Brown LG - Andrew Norwell C - Brett Jones RG - Quenton Nelson RT - Ereck Flowers' vs cheap veteran You are f*cking insufferable.

Odd how he kicked John Jerry to the curb.

Defense 4-3
DE JPP, OVTomlinson, Okwara, Moss
DT Snacks, Tomlinson, Vet, (#2 or #3 Robert Thomas (ERFA Tender for 630k)
OLB Vernon, Moss
ILB Goodson, Rookie Christian Sam* (7th rounder)
ILB Kevin Minter* (FA 2 yrs, 7mil)
OLB Uchenna Nwosu (3rd rounder)
CB Jenkins, DRC, Rookie #3
CB Apple, Cockrell (re-sign 3yrs, 17mil)
FS Thompson,Rookie #1 or #2 (Fitz, James, Reed)
SS Collins, Adams

Picks used #1, #2, #3

Round 1 Pick 24 (CAR): McGlinchey, Mike, OT, NDame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 2: Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 9 (OAK): Wynn, Isaiah, OG/C, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 20 (BALT): Hernandez, Will, OG, TX-ElPaso (A)
Round 2 Pick 23 (CAR): Michel, Sony, RB, Georgia (A)
Round 3 Pick 2: Baker, Jerome, OLB/ILB, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 19 (BALT): Nnadi, Derrick, DT, Florida St(A+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (CAR): Rudolph, Mason, QB, Oklahoma St(A+)
Round 4 Pick 2: Hill, BJ, DT/DE, North Carolina State (A)
Round 4 Pick 2: Hill, Holton, CB/FS, Texas (B-)
Round 5 Pick 2: Scarbrough, Bo, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 2: Phillips, Darius, CB, West Michigan (A+)

QB Eli/Webb Rudolph to push Webb
RB FA (None or Darkwa) FA Michel, Scarbrough
WR FA best possible
TE Cheap or none
OL sign 2 Premium FA (Solder, Norbert) McGlinchey, Hernandez, Wynn, re-sign Jones and Fluker if possible.
DT sign 1 FA (Cheap TBD) Nnadi Hill
DE FA (None)
LB sign 1 FA (Premium TBD) Baker, Evans
DB sign 1 FA (Cockerall, Keep DRC cheaper) Hill, Phillips

In free agency, we tender Brett Jones, sign LG Norwell and RT Cameron Fleming. In the draft, a trade back with Cleveland to pick 4 along with getting pick 33,35 and their 4th rounder.

With pick 4 select OG Quenton Nelson, pick 33 select OT Tyrell Crosby and with the first pick of round 4 select Mason Cole.

Our line would look like this:
LT: Flowers, Crosby
LG: Norwell, Bisnowaty
C: Jones, Cole
RG: Nelson, Hilapio
RT: Fleming, Wheeler

QB: Manning, Webb, Mason Rudolph ( 2nd round )
RB: Gallman, Perkins, Rashad Penny ( 3rd round )
TE: Engram, Ellison, Adams
WR: OBJ, Shepard, Donte Moncrief, Rogers, Randolph,

In free agency, we tender Brett Jones, sign LG Norwell and RT Cameron Fleming. In the draft, a trade back with Cleveland to pick 4 along with getting pick 33,35 and their 4th rounder.

With pick 4 select OG Quenton Nelson, pick 33 select OT Tyrell Crosby and with the first pick of round 4 select Mason Cole.

Our line would look like this:
LT: Flowers, Crosby
LG: Norwell, Bisnowaty
C: Jones, Cole
RG: Nelson, Hilapio
RT: Fleming, Wheeler

QB: Manning, Webb, Mason Rudolph ( 2nd round )
RB: Gallman, Perkins, Rashad Penny ( 3rd round )
TE: Engram, Ellison, Adams
WR: OBJ, Shepard, Donte Moncrief, Rogers, Randolph,

In free agency, we tender Brett Jones, sign LG Norwell and RT Cameron Fleming. In the draft, a trade back with Cleveland to pick 4 along with getting pick 33,35 and their 4th rounder.

With pick 4 select OG Quenton Nelson, pick 33 select OT Tyrell Crosby and with the first pick of round 4 select Mason Cole.

Our line would look like this:
LT: Flowers, Crosby
LG: Norwell, Bisnowaty
C: Jones, Cole
RG: Nelson, Hilapio
RT: Fleming, Wheeler

QB: Manning, Webb, Mason Rudolph ( 2nd round )
RB: Gallman, Perkins, Rashad Penny ( 3rd round )
TE: Engram, Ellison, Adams
WR: OBJ, Shepard, Donte Moncrief, Rogers, Randolph,

Will address the old GM s failures first .....Offensive line and linebackers will be drafted heavily and Josh Rosen maybe Giants can pick up 3rd rounder for Webb

In comment 13837305 Breeze_94 said:

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Defense 34DE Tomlinson, Okwara NT Snacks, Robert Thomas (ERFA Tender for 630k) 34DE JPP, Mike Pennel* (2 yrs, 3.8 mil) OLB Vernon, Moss ILB Goodson, Christian Sam* (7th rounder) ILB Kevin Minter* (FA 2 yrs, 7mil) OLB Uchenna Nwosu (3rd rounder) CB Jenkins, Christian Campbell (5th rounder) CB Apple, Cockrell (re-sign 3yrs, 17mil) FS Armani Watts (4th Round comp pick), Thompson SS Collins, Adams

your offense and defense gets uns into the SB at least once. Is that worth having to do a QB search in three years? Most here apparently say No.

Beefed up and still got Barkley. You really have no clue until draft day how it will unfold.... however I’d be happy with the below draft.
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8 (CHI): Barkley, Saquon, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 2: Crosby, Tyrell, OT/OG, Oregon (B+)
Round 2 Pick 7 (CHI): Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (A-)
Round 3 Pick 2: Jefferson, Malik, ILB/OLB, Texas (A-)
Round 4 Pick 2: Cappa, Alex, OT/OG, Humboldt State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 2: Atkins, John, DT, Georgia (A+)
Round 6 Pick 2: Miller, Kolton, OT, UCLA (A+)
Round 7 Pick 2: Reed, DJ, CB, Kansas State (A+)

Crosby, Pugh, jones, Norwell, Cappa (Miller)
Eli Webb
Barkley, Gallman, Darkwa
OBJ, Shep, FA sign, Lewis, Rudolph
Engram

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Round 1 Pick 24 (CAR): McGlinchey, Mike, OT, NDame (B+) Round 2 Pick 2: Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B+) Round 2 Pick 9 (OAK): Wynn, Isaiah, OG/C, Georgia (A) Round 2 Pick 20 (BALT): Hernandez, Will, OG, TX-ElPaso (A) Round 2 Pick 23 (CAR): Michel, Sony, RB, Georgia (A) Round 3 Pick 2: Baker, Jerome, OLB/ILB, Ohio State (A-) Round 3 Pick 19 (BALT): Nnadi, Derrick, DT, Florida St(A+) Round 3 Pick 21 (CAR): Rudolph, Mason, QB, Oklahoma St(A+) Round 4 Pick 2: Hill, BJ, DT/DE, North Carolina State (A) Round 4 Pick 2: Hill, Holton, CB/FS, Texas (B-) Round 5 Pick 2: Scarbrough, Bo, RB, Alabama (A+) Round 6 Pick 2: Phillips, Darius, CB, West Michigan (A+) QB Eli/Webb Rudolph to push Webb RB FA (None or Darkwa) FA Michel, Scarbrough WR FA best possible TE Cheap or none OL sign 2 Premium FA (Solder, Norbert) McGlinchey, Hernandez, Wynn, re-sign Jones and Fluker if possible. DT sign 1 FA (Cheap TBD) Nnadi Hill DE FA (None) LB sign 1 FA (Premium TBD) Baker, Evans DB sign 1 FA (Cockerall, Keep DRC cheaper) Hill, Phillips

Interesting trade. Who would Carolina trade up for in your oppinion? Fitzpatrick? Chubb? Nelson? All 3 would make sense, just not sure I see them as a partner. Doubt Gettleman wants to throw them a bone after the way they dumped him right before training camp lol.

In comment 13837530 Bill L said:

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In comment 13837305 Breeze_94 said: Quote: Defense 34DE Tomlinson, Okwara NT Snacks, Robert Thomas (ERFA Tender for 630k) 34DE JPP, Mike Pennel* (2 yrs, 3.8 mil) OLB Vernon, Moss ILB Goodson, Christian Sam* (7th rounder) ILB Kevin Minter* (FA 2 yrs, 7mil) OLB Uchenna Nwosu (3rd rounder) CB Jenkins, Christian Campbell (5th rounder) CB Apple, Cockrell (re-sign 3yrs, 17mil) FS Armani Watts (4th Round comp pick), Thompson SS Collins, Adams your offense and defense gets uns into the SB at least once. Is that worth having to do a QB search in three years? Most here apparently say No.

Absolutely. The NFL is a win-now league. You do everything you can to win if you are a respectable franchise like the Giants, Packers, Steelers etc.

Do you think the Eagles give a damn that they have NEGATIVE 12 million in cap space and only 1 pick in the first 2 days of the draft? No- that Super Bowl was worth it.

In comment 13837559 Sand_TheWedge said:

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Beefed up and still got Barkley. You really have no clue until draft day how it will unfold.... however I’d be happy with the below draft. Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 8 (CHI): Barkley, Saquon, RB, Penn State (A+) Round 2 Pick 2: Crosby, Tyrell, OT/OG, Oregon (B+) Round 2 Pick 7 (CHI): Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (A-) Round 3 Pick 2: Jefferson, Malik, ILB/OLB, Texas (A-) Round 4 Pick 2: Cappa, Alex, OT/OG, Humboldt State (A-) Round 5 Pick 2: Atkins, John, DT, Georgia (A+) Round 6 Pick 2: Miller, Kolton, OT, UCLA (A+) Round 7 Pick 2: Reed, DJ, CB, Kansas State (A+) Crosby, Pugh, jones, Norwell, Cappa (Miller) Eli Webb Barkley, Gallman, Darkwa OBJ, Shep, FA sign, Lewis, Rudolph Engram

I like it. Maye I'd switch out Jefferson for a guy with more pass-rush ability although I can't complain about having a surplus of athletic LB's.

In comment 13837648 Breeze_94 said:

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In comment 13837438 Reale01 said: Quote: Round 1 Pick 24 (CAR): McGlinchey, Mike, OT, NDame (B+) Round 2 Pick 2: Evans, Rashaan, OLB/ILB, Alabama (B+) Round 2 Pick 9 (OAK): Wynn, Isaiah, OG/C, Georgia (A) Round 2 Pick 20 (BALT): Hernandez, Will, OG, TX-ElPaso (A) Round 2 Pick 23 (CAR): Michel, Sony, RB, Georgia (A) Round 3 Pick 2: Baker, Jerome, OLB/ILB, Ohio State (A-) Round 3 Pick 19 (BALT): Nnadi, Derrick, DT, Florida St(A+) Round 3 Pick 21 (CAR): Rudolph, Mason, QB, Oklahoma St(A+) Round 4 Pick 2: Hill, BJ, DT/DE, North Carolina State (A) Round 4 Pick 2: Hill, Holton, CB/FS, Texas (B-) Round 5 Pick 2: Scarbrough, Bo, RB, Alabama (A+) Round 6 Pick 2: Phillips, Darius, CB, West Michigan (A+) QB Eli/Webb Rudolph to push Webb RB FA (None or Darkwa) FA Michel, Scarbrough WR FA best possible TE Cheap or none OL sign 2 Premium FA (Solder, Norbert) McGlinchey, Hernandez, Wynn, re-sign Jones and Fluker if possible. DT sign 1 FA (Cheap TBD) Nnadi Hill DE FA (None) LB sign 1 FA (Premium TBD) Baker, Evans DB sign 1 FA (Cockerall, Keep DRC cheaper) Hill, Phillips Interesting trade. Who would Carolina trade up for in your oppinion? Fitzpatrick? Chubb? Nelson? All 3 would make sense, just not sure I see them as a partner. Doubt Gettleman wants to throw them a bone after the way they dumped him right before training camp lol.

I traded down a couple times to accumulate 2nd round picks. As a result no "Gold Chip". Actually got less than "value" in the trades. However the overall draft really addresses a lot of needs for a lot of years.

On the team and they all make the final 53 no sense in keeping Eli then !

7 new faces.

again...

Giants draft the QB with the 2nd pick. In the 2nd round no need for an Olineman. Instead get DE which can get time subbing JPP - just giving both Ends a rest.

QB Webb
RB Darkwa
LT Fleming
LG Fulton
C--- Jones
RG Hubbard
RT Flowers
TE#1 Engram
TE#2 Ellison
WR ODBJ
WR Shepard

Time to stop wiht the fantasy that teh Giants need to play and win games 38-35. Got to build with a front 7. Got to always feed the defense with talent. This year maybe the move is to not only get a quality linebacker but draft high on defense too.

And we're going with a 4-3.

DE 's Vernon and JPP.
DT's Snacks and Tomlinson
ILB Avery Williamson (FA)
OLBs Mingo (FA) and Keenan (resign)
CBs Jenkins and Cromartie
S Collins and Tre Boston (Free Agent)

In RD 2 the giants take Sam Hubbard from Ohio State if available. If not take Okoronkwo. Defensive rush will always be fresh.