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Pego61 : 2/20/2018 6:29 pm
Yankees traded minor league infielder Nick Solak to Tampa. Return is unknown at this time. Reported on Twitter by a reporter from Fan Rag Sports, so fairly legitimate.

He's a decent prospect, so wonder if it's part of something bigger. Stay tuned.
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Ryan in Albany : 2/20/2018 6:33 pm : link
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Source: Dbacks have acquired Steven Souza from Rays in three-team deal. Brandon Drury is headed to the Yankees.
Interesting  
Dave in PA : 2/20/2018 6:41 pm : link
Drury is kind of an enigma, but definitly has potential at the plate. Wonder if he’s a super U kind of guy. Has 2B and OF experience with AZ
Is  
mitch300 : 2/20/2018 6:43 pm : link
he better than Torreyes or Wade?
That's a nice trade for the Yanks, although Solak looks  
yatqb : 2/20/2018 6:45 pm : link
like a good prospect. But this certainly allows the Yanks to let either or both of Torres and Andujar to start in AAA this season.
RE: Is  
Dave in PA : 2/20/2018 6:51 pm : link
In comment 13837511 mitch300 said:
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he better than Torreyes or Wade?
Hes definitly a better hitter than RT
Nice deal  
JoeMoney19 : 2/20/2018 6:52 pm : link
Solak is a good prospect but there are several better options than him going forward at 2B. Drury has only a little over two years of service time so he's a very cheap bolster to the infield as well.

Dbacks are also Taylor Widener from the Yankees (Yankees #22 prospect per Baseball America).
Seems a little bit expensive  
bigbluehoya : 2/20/2018 7:01 pm : link
For a bottom of the order bat to keep an infield spot warm.

Nothing that I’m going to get too wound up about, but I wonder what they liked.
RE: Seems a little bit expensive  
Justlurking : 2/20/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13837522 bigbluehoya said:
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For a bottom of the order bat to keep an infield spot warm.

Nothing that I’m going to get too wound up about, but I wonder what they liked.


Super utility guy, just turning 25. Essentially replaces Solak except ready now. And they are loaded with projected RHP relievers. Makes sense.
RE: Seems a little bit expensive  
Dave in PA : 2/20/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13837522 bigbluehoya said:
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For a bottom of the order bat to keep an infield spot warm.

Nothing that I’m going to get too wound up about, but I wonder what they liked.
hopefully a late bloomer with the power bat. He’s more of a doubles gap hitter, but I suspect Ca$h likes his velocity/trajectory metrics ala Didi. Hopefully anyway
RE: Interesting  
HomerJones45 : 2/20/2018 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13837510 Dave in PA said:
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Drury is kind of an enigma, but definitly has potential at the plate. Wonder if he’s a super U kind of guy. Has 2B and OF experience with AZ
D-Backs kept platooning him with Descalso, who is a stiff, so who knows. Not a bad trade at all.
i get it  
RasputinPrime : 2/20/2018 7:23 pm : link
but don't love it. I was looking forward to both Solak and Widener this year at some point.
RE: Seems a little bit expensive  
rich in DC : 2/20/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13837522 bigbluehoya said:
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For a bottom of the order bat to keep an infield spot warm.

Nothing that I’m going to get too wound up about, but I wonder what they liked.


Probably the fact that he is earning the ML minimum this season and has 3 arbitration seasons remaining. Also has played at least 20+ games in the majors at 2B, 3B, LF and RF.

He has some power- hit 13 and 16 HR the past two seasons.

In essence, he is going to make Tyler Austin redundant- I suspect that is who gets cut for him.

I would add that this allows the Yanks to keep both Andujar and Torres in the minors to start the season. They can play Drudy at 3B and one of Wade, Espinoza or Torreyes at 2B until both are ready. When both come up, the Yanks will have a deep bench.
RE: Seems a little bit expensive  
rich in DC : 2/20/2018 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13837522 bigbluehoya said:
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For a bottom of the order bat to keep an infield spot warm.

Nothing that I’m going to get too wound up about, but I wonder what they liked.


Just a guess- but I think the Yanks may believe that they have found their next Randy Velarde. Drury has taken 400+ ABs the last two seasons- and has been at least average. His bat might also be just enough that when the Yanks decide to rest Gardner and slide Stanton or Judge to LF, Drury could DH.

Tyler Austin’s fate is not tied to this trade at all  
YorkAveGiant : 2/20/2018 7:52 pm : link
He can and will back up Bird....barring a new 1B pick up.

This means Andujar joins Torres and Frazier in Scranton for April and maybe more.
Jabari Blash DFA'd  
Ryan in Albany : 2/20/2018 7:53 pm : link
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Just the kind of Deal the Yanks Should Make  
varco : 2/20/2018 8:00 pm : link
Seems like a young, inexpensive way to plug a hole. He has shown the ability to hit Major League pitching, though am unfamiliar with his fielding. In the "old days", they would have brought in or traded for some high priced veteran on the downside of their career. In contrast, here is a "kid" who is 24, yet with a couple of years' in the bigs and with versatility, upside and something to prove. I like it as a relatively low risk. In terms of price, if they are struggling to find room for Clint Frazier, then what's the future for Solak, a good hitter with some / limited power?
This is better than signing a veteran FA like Moustakas  
mfsd : 2/20/2018 8:15 pm : link
or whoever. A guy like that would have blocked Andujar for possibly the whole season. This way, Yanks have depth if they think Andujar needs more seasoning in the minors, but no problem bringing him up whenever they want and turning Drury into a utility guy, along with Torreyes.
the Judge  
Mr. Nickels : 2/20/2018 8:25 pm : link
and the Drury
RE: RE: Seems a little bit expensive  
bigbluehoya : 2/20/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 13837555 rich in DC said:
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In comment 13837522 bigbluehoya said:


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For a bottom of the order bat to keep an infield spot warm.

Nothing that I’m going to get too wound up about, but I wonder what they liked.



Just a guess- but I think the Yanks may believe that they have found their next Randy Velarde. Drury has taken 400+ ABs the last two seasons- and has been at least average. His bat might also be just enough that when the Yanks decide to rest Gardner and slide Stanton or Judge to LF, Drury could DH.


Fair points. I’d like to see Sanchez in the DH on the days that they play both of the big fellas in the corner OF, but point taken on the versatility.
rich in DC you have a pretty  
section125 : 2/20/2018 9:03 pm : link
good eye and ear so I'm wondering what Drury has to do with Austin? Who do the Yanks have that can play first base as backup or in case Bird is out for a while. Seems Drury will be playing IF as the Yanks have too many OFs. Both Austin and Drury can play OF, but with six other actual outfielders on the roster, I see neither playing outfield (Hicks, Ells, Gardner, Stanton, Judge and Frazier). Is it a possible prelude to another trade, say Gardner (or hopefully Ellsbury or both) to open up the outfield and cut payroll?


You always hate to see prospects go, but there are so many  
Del Shofner : 2/20/2018 9:32 pm : link
middle infielders and RH RP's in the Yankees' system that Solak and Widener were not likely to see the light of day in MLB any time soon on the Yanks. Don't know much about Drury but what I read makes sense - plays both 2B and 3B, has played some SS and played some 1B in the minors. (Also outfield but I don't think the Yanks will need him there.) Kind of a super-sub in the field, and has some pop at the plate. Even still has some options for AAA. Gives more flexibility whatever happens with Torres and Andujar.
Terrible splits  
xman : 2/20/2018 9:52 pm : link
Drury looks like he only hits at home .
Not a fan of Drury  
RetroJint : 2/20/2018 9:58 pm : link
and this deal.
yeah, well, you weren't a fan of Didi either  
Greg from LI : 2/20/2018 10:53 pm : link
Dead wrong on that one, weren't you?
Sherman at NYP likes the trade -  
Del Shofner : 2/20/2018 11:36 pm : link
points out the Yanks' new 3B coach Phil Nevin was Drury's manager at AAA not long ago, so there's some familiarity there.
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Seems like a solid trade to me  
illmatic : 2/20/2018 11:43 pm : link
not sure why anyone would dislike it that much. Well, unless you're a fan of all Yankees prospects and hate the idea of them giving any of them up. At worst, Drury seems like a great depth/bench piece. He can also step in and play right away if Torres and Andujar aren't quite ready. And it won't hurt to keep him as a backup when they are ready. Plus he's young enough that he can still improve a little and he can be a cost controlled depth piece for a few years. There's not much to dislike unless you think he'll flop away from Arizona or if you were super high on Solak.
When's the last time Cash missed on one of there type deals?  
Stu11 : 2/21/2018 12:01 am : link
He knows what he's doing and how to evaluate talent.
I like the deal  
GiantJake : 2/21/2018 12:31 am : link
Solak is probably going to be a pretty good hitter, but he is still a work in progress at 2B. Let's face it...he's blocked big time at 2B. Torres, Wade and Estrada are all ahead of him and now you can add Drury to the list. I would have preferred to hold onto Widener, but you have to give something to get something. So what did they get in Drury? The got a young, cheap, versatile player with 289 MLB games under his belt. He can play 2B, 3B, LF and RF. Hope they give him a few innings at 1B to round out his skill set. Career .271 hitter with some pop. At the very least, he is insurance should Torres or Andujar need more time in the minors. If the kids are legit, he can either become the super utility guy or even a tradable asset next season.
I'll defer to Yankee management as to what they see in  
TheMick7 : 2/21/2018 5:34 am : link
Drury. What seems obvious,at least to me me,is that Torreyes is not being looked at as a backup infielder on the 25. What's interesting is that both are 25,& have the same arbitration & FA dates. Drury has more power between the 2 while Torreyes is deemed the better fielder,base runner.Last year,particularly in April, Torreyes was irreplaceable,filling in for Didi & Castro. Seems like he's far from irreplaceable this year!
Sneaky good trade for the Yanks  
dpinzow : 2/21/2018 6:39 am : link
Drury is a league average player right now but could get better (only 25) and can play a lot of positions. Better than our current utility guys and fills a hole until Gleyber or Andujar get called up. Drury is definitely a utility player on a championship team
Every time  
nygnyy274 : 2/21/2018 6:50 am : link
The Yankees make a trade some people on BBI always bitch about the guy the Yankees gave up. It never fails no matter who the player is.. I even seen it after the Stanton trade people actually complained they gave up
Castro and even Devers because they said he could be as good as his brother. I highly doubt any of these guys the Yankees have gave up in trades the last two years will turn out to be Jay Buhner and Al Lieter
RE: Sneaky good trade for the Yanks  
TheMick7 : 2/21/2018 6:56 am : link
In comment 13837723 dpinzow said:
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Drury is a league average player right now but could get better (only 25) and can play a lot of positions. Better than our current utility guys and fills a hole until Gleyber or Andujar get called up. Drury is definitely a utility player on a championship team


I agree that Drury,at the least,will be the utility player. My question than becomes,do the Yankees keep 12 or 13 pichers? On the bench Romine, Ellsbury, are givens.If Drury is a utility guy than you have only 1 roster spot-pitcher or bench.If he is a starter & Andujar and/or Torres is sent down, do you keep Torreyes (particularly since he can play SS,Drury can't),Austin (back up 1B) or does Wade make the 25?
RE: I'll defer to Yankee management as to what they see in  
mfsd : 2/21/2018 7:10 am : link
In comment 13837713 TheMick7 said:
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Drury. What seems obvious,at least to me me,is that Torreyes is not being looked at as a backup infielder on the 25. What's interesting is that both are 25,& have the same arbitration & FA dates. Drury has more power between the 2 while Torreyes is deemed the better fielder,base runner.Last year,particularly in April, Torreyes was irreplaceable,filling in for Didi & Castro. Seems like he's far from irreplaceable this year!


IMO Torreyes is still very much in their plans. Drury essentially replaces Todd Frazier. Maybe not as good, but not as expensive and won’t block Andujar when he’s ready.

I think the guy who’s roster spot Drury may take is Tyler Austin. Which leaves us thin at 1B, maybe Drury can backup there too?

I suspect they start Andujar and Torres in the minors at first, for the extra year until free agency purpose as well as giving them a little more seasoning. Then when each is ready they figure out who gets bumped for them.

And maybe Cashman can pull a rabbit out of a hat and foist Ellsbury on someone?
RE: RE: Sneaky good trade for the Yanks  
Del Shofner : 2/21/2018 7:14 am : link
In comment 13837726 TheMick7 said:
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IIf Drury is a utility guy than you have only 1 roster spot-pitcher or bench.If he is a starter & Andujar and/or Torres is sent down, do you keep Torreyes (particularly since he can play SS,Drury can't),Austin (back up 1B) or does Wade make the 25?


Good question. I think Drury will be a starter to begin with, most likely at 3B which the Yankees apparently think is his best position. Torreyes probably stays because he can play SS, but sooner or later one or both of Austin and Wade will be at risk. Drury can definitely play 2B and if you read the linked Sherman article, apparently 1B as well.
or what mfsd said ...  
Del Shofner : 2/21/2018 7:15 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: Sneaky good trade for the Yanks  
TheMick7 : 2/21/2018 7:40 am : link
In comment 13837736 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 13837726 TheMick7 said:


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IIf Drury is a utility guy than you have only 1 roster spot-pitcher or bench.If he is a starter & Andujar and/or Torres is sent down, do you keep Torreyes (particularly since he can play SS,Drury can't),Austin (back up 1B) or does Wade make the 25?



Good question. I think Drury will be a starter to begin with, most likely at 3B which the Yankees apparently think is his best position. Torreyes probably stays because he can play SS, but sooner or later one or both of Austin and Wade will be at risk. Drury can definitely play 2B and if you read the linked Sherman article, apparently 1B as well.


If Drury becomes the backup 1B as well, he'll have to learn the position in ST. Hs played 1 inning at 1B for the D'Backs in 2016
And,in 2012,Drury started 55 games  
TheMick7 : 2/21/2018 7:48 am : link
at 1B as a 19 year old in single A.
I really like this trade. It's sneaky good. Great hedge against  
Heisenberg : 2/21/2018 8:06 am : link
Torres or Andujar not being ready and a guy that you won't have a problem benching if they are. And if there's a long term injury at 2B or 3B then you don't have to put up with Torreyes bat in the lineup every day. Drury is what they tried to turn Refsnyder into but he couldn't play anywhere credibly, much less hit to league avg like Drury.

Solak and Widener are decent prospects but not gonna help the Yankees anytime soon, or perhaps ever.

Mainly I like it because he's a cheap 3B or 2B and lets us maybe spend on a pitcher and then wait for Machado in the offseason.
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Greg from LI : 2/21/2018 8:43 am : link
In comment 13837741 TheMick7 said:
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If Drury becomes the backup 1B as well, he'll have to learn the position in ST. Hs played 1 inning at 1B for the D'Backs in 2016


According to RAB, Drury played some first base in the minors
Drury is a good pickup. Verstaile, decent bat and CHEAP  
Victor in CT : 2/21/2018 8:46 am : link
every team could use a guy like that.
Solak is a good prospect  
Kyle in NY : 2/21/2018 8:47 am : link
but was very much blocked in this system at 2B. Plus we are well stocked with RHP, so we dealt from a position of strength.

Drury seems to be a good fit for YS and word was Cashman was after him all winter, so you have to figure the analytics staff had info on him that they liked. I'm good with it.
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TheMick7 : 2/21/2018 8:50 am : link
In comment 13837768 Greg from LI said:
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If Drury becomes the backup 1B as well, he'll have to learn the position in ST. Hs played 1 inning at 1B for the D'Backs in 2016



According to RAB, Drury played some first base in the minors


As I posted above,55 games in 2012 as a 19 year old in 2012. But,except for that single inning in 2016,he hasn't played it since!
Seems like a good deal  
Jeever : 2/21/2018 10:41 am : link
Cashman is moving some minor league pieces for a young versatile player with MLB experience to fill a need. Might as well use the minor league pieces before you lose them to the Rule 5 draft and get little in return. Way to go Cash. Keep up the good work.

Now sign Lance Lynn to a 3 year deal and we're all set.
Better than Headley?  
adamg : 2/21/2018 11:36 am : link
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Talked to more folks about Drury. Consensus is that despite his flexibility, he is best suited to be a 3B and may find more comfort offensively at one spot. One scout called him a “huge upgrade” over Headley, good defender, with gap power that will play well at Yankee Stadium
Good move by Cash  
mavric : 2/21/2018 11:41 am : link
Drury is a solid player who is good in the clubhouse. Even with Torres and Andújar ready to dip their toes in the water and deserve a shot on the team, they should still be brought up slowly and eased into the baptism of the big leagues. Drury adds a valuable security blanket who is an above average player without excessive cost....hell, at no cost by the looks of things (600-700k a year).

My belief is this: Yanks have every intention of signing Manny Machado next year when he will be a free agent and Machodo wants badly to put on the pinstripes and be part of the Yanks bash boys. Drury is insurance and can back up several positions once Machado is a bone fide Yankee - which you can take that signing to the bank! This also means that the Yanks will probably deal Andújar for a young starting pitcher at some point unless there is some bizarre injury or unforeseen accident within the infield crop.

Just my 2 cents while looking through my cloudy crystal ball
You can't compare Drury  
Jay in Toronto : 2/21/2018 12:23 pm : link
and Toe's fielding. But Wad may slide into that function.
I don't think this affects Andujar at all long-term  
Greg from LI : 2/21/2018 12:25 pm : link
If the Yankees are going to sign Machado, it will be to play shortstop. He's going to play SS for the Orioles this year, and he's made it clear that he considers himself a shortstop. Drury gives them flexibility - if they aren't convinced Andujar is ready, they can send him back to Scranton and start Drury at third. If they are sold on Andujar this year, then Drury can back up the corners and be in the mix to start at second.
No way I want Machado at SS  
GiantJake : 2/21/2018 1:04 pm : link
That's a deal breaker for me. If I am going to sign Machado to a massive contract, I want him playing 3B. The rigors of playing SS every day will affect Machado over the course of the season and over a long contract. If Machado wants to play for the Yankees....he can do it at 3B.
When Machado becomes a Yankee  
mavric : 2/21/2018 2:29 pm : link
(assuming he will, which seems highly likely) he will take over 3B, sure as the sun sets in the west.

No way the Yanks are moving Didi so a hard hitting, sure handed 3rd baseman can toy with playing SS. Machado really, really wants to be a Yank (if you can believe beat writers), then he'll do whatever the team asks. Remember when ARod was a SS and planned on staying at short? Didn't happen!
Listening to Cashman with Michael Kay...  
bceagle05 : 2/21/2018 3:25 pm : link
Drury’s the everyday third baseman. Said they’ve been trying to acquire him for years and three different regimes in Arizona. Don’t view him as a Ben Zobrist type - he’s a 3B and maybe some backup 1B.
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