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It's impossible to put together a mock draft

Milton : 2/21/2018 3:41 am
Right or wrong, there is usually something resembling a consensus on the general proximity of where each prospect will be drafted. Maybe Joe Blow is ranked 55th on Colin from GBN's Big Board and ranked 43rd by The Huddle Report, but for the most part you can at least get a feel for what round a guy will be drafted in and maybe even if he'll go early or late in that round. The projection could turn out to be way off on Judgment Day, but at least there's enough of a consensus out there for us to put together a mock draft that satisfies our addiction in the meantime.

Not so--at least so far--this year! And it's especially true of the OL. Other than Nelson, they are all over the place. And how can any Giants fan put together a decent mock draft without a clue on how the OL are going to come off the board? For example: GBN and NFLDraftScout have OT Jamarco Jones ranked 100 and 107 respectively, whereas THR and DBG both have him ranked 68th on their boards. And try figuring out the right spot for RB Ito Smith in your mock draft, I've seen him ranked anywhere from 80th to 192nd!

Obviously it's still early and things will come more into focus after the combine and private workouts. There are always surprises, but the final consensus among draftniks is generally not that far off from what actually happens on Draft Day.

Great Blue North (Colin Lindsey) Top 100

The Huddle Report (Robby Esch) Top 200

Draft Board Guru (Doug Martz) Top 100

NFL Draft Line (Paul Emery) Top 100

NFLDraftScout Player Rankings

CBS SportsLine Prospect Rankings
I always thought mocks before free agnecy were pointless  
JohnB : 2/21/2018 4:15 am : link
FA will change everything especially this year with all the QBs on the open market and the number of high QBs in the draft.
I think there may be more consistency in the  
figgy2989 : 2/21/2018 6:15 am : link
Mocks after the combine next week. Especially considering all the QB’s and other top tier prospects are competing in all drills (as of now).
Sorry meant to say consistency in the rankings...  
figgy2989 : 2/21/2018 6:16 am : link
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Having done mock drafts since Phil Simms  
Chip : 2/21/2018 8:09 am : link
They are pointless all it takes is 1 team usually Al Davis to screw things up and doing more than the first round is totally ridiculous. Make a draft board not a mock draft.
I much prefer when..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/21/2018 8:30 am : link
guys like Sy rate players on a point scale. It eliminates the whole game of calling players reaches because they went 10 slots lower than some pundit who graduated from The Scouting Network proposed.

too many narratives get created based on draft projections rather than the much more representative rating system. If you are choosing between the 4th to 8th rated CB and the differences in the group is only .2 on a rating scale, it isn't the shitstorm of taking a guy 14 slots earlier than Kiper had him going.
I don't really get why you'd do a mock draft before  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/21/2018 8:50 am : link
free agency and the combine. Sure it's hard to do when you're starting from a low point of information.
For whatever its worth  
Breeze_94 : 2/21/2018 8:51 am : link
and its not much...

Kiper has the Giants taking Barkley in his mock draft 2.0 which came out today.

And, even more surprisingly, has Rosen falling all the way to #11.

Grain of salt though because Kiper is never right
Just want to say that I am always amazed...  
M.S. : 2/21/2018 9:12 am : link

...at how well the outside draft sites/experts perform when it comes to ranking/projecting hundreds of college players.

Sure, there are "misses", but from an overall perspective (especially who goes in the Top Two Rounds) there is a lot that goes right.
RE: I much prefer when guys like Sy rate players on a point scale  
Trainmaster : 2/21/2018 9:48 am : link
FMiC +1
The real..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/21/2018 9:51 am : link
joke of the draft season is the number of iterations these people post:

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Kiper has the Giants taking Barkley in his mock draft 2.0 which came out today.


I mean between Kiper's first mock and Kiper draft 206.0 he's probably literally covered most of the permutations of the top picks.

It means jackshit.
When I look at a mock draft  
mrvax : 2/21/2018 10:28 am : link
I rarely look past round #2 because it seems meaningless.

When the BBI mock is done it should be shortened to draft days 1 & 2.
I like putting together mock drafts  
Milton : 2/21/2018 10:54 am : link
It's not about being right (although that would be nice), it's about exploring the possibilities in each round. But when the range of possibilities for a particular prospect is from round two to round five it takes the fun out of it. As for doing it prior to free agency, I couple it with a mock free agency. Again, it's not about making predictions, it's about speculating on what's possible. I'll occasionally post a mock draft of mine on BBI, but for the most part it's for my own entertainment.

My latest mock draft (which includes signing Norwell, Pugh, Fluker, Brett Jones, Cockrell, a veteran WR, and a veteran LB or two in free agency) for your amusement and ridicule....
1. QB Josh Rosen
2. DL Harrison Phillips
3. OC Frank Ragnow
4. LB Darius Leonard
4c. RB Ito Smith
5. OT Joseph Noteboom
7. DS Trayvon Henderson
Obviously your true value to your team  
idiotsavant : 2/21/2018 11:00 am : link
Is one thing and the market perception is another - very - important thing one needs to be aware of to take advantage of trends.

Every year we see nobodies udfa types climb once the attention gathers. Last year, shaheen,shareen whatever the fuck. A giant small school TE.

Some players get overlooked you get great value.

As always - stupidly obvious other than that folks don't do it.
So. If a team says that they ignore  
idiotsavant : 2/21/2018 11:04 am : link
Pundits and etc. . to ignore broad perception and market perception would be to ignore half the job.

Would you buy an over inflated stock?

Do you look for hidden values?

You need to do your own value .. And know what others think as well.
RE: For whatever its worth  
Bill L : 2/21/2018 11:07 am : link
In comment 13837777 Breeze_94 said:
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and its not much...

Kiper has the Giants taking Barkley in his mock draft 2.0 which came out today.

And, even more surprisingly, has Rosen falling all the way to #11.

Grain of salt though because Kiper is never right
I think that more and more people are going to look at Rosen sort of like they looked at Myles Jack. Very tantalizing but there is some risk there. How to balance that.
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