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superspynyg : 2/21/2018 8:54 am
that wants to see Kirk Cousins go to the Jets and not mean it in a mean or bad way.

There qb situation since Sanchez has been horrible. They have no idea how to draft a qb. They use old stop gaps like McCown (who was good for a year) but not long term ready.

Cousins while not a top 5 is a very solid qb who can win you games just not the huge ones (but neither did Alex Smith and people love him). They have the money to spend and a top 6 draft pick that can get you some play makers. They have young wrs in Robbie Anderson and Jermaine Kearse and Quincy Enuwa that would be good with Cousins. You can add a good rb in rd 2-3 and go Def OR Quinten Nelson in rd 1 to help that oline. Plus with 77 mil in cap space you can add a FA oline like G Sitton, RT Fleming, LT Solder.

Cousins is a solid leader and would do well in NY.

Having said that he prob wont sign with them.
correction 73 mil as of now  
superspynyg : 2/21/2018 8:56 am : link
Plus If you trade Wilkerson for mid pick or a player if you want.
I rooted against the Jets  
joeinpa : 2/21/2018 9:48 am : link
During two eras. The Parcells era, because he is a Giant and I didn't want to seem him reach the pinnacle with another team.

The other era, the Rex Ryan era, rooted with a passion against home for obvious reason

Don t consider Jets a rival, and find myself rooting for them during some games Also like Todd Bowles and McGowan
Should add  
joeinpa : 2/21/2018 9:54 am : link
I wouldn t want Cousins. Would rather get one of the younger guys. Cousins is too similar to what the Jets have done in the past with Farve, Eaison and O Donnell
I'm not for or against anything the Jets may or may not do.  
Beezer : 2/21/2018 10:12 am : link
I am as flatline about their franchise as can be.

Looking at it pragmatically, I think Cousins makes the Jets better. So I'd prefer he NOT become a Jet.

If he does, I won't care.
You sure..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/21/2018 10:15 am : link
that's pragmatic??

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Looking at it pragmatically, I think Cousins makes the Jets better. So I'd prefer he NOT become a Jet


shouldn't you prefer that AFC teams become stronger at the expense of NFC teams?
it would be a typical Jet move to empty the vault for a QB who  
Victor in CT : 2/21/2018 10:18 am : link
if the definition of average. If I'm them, I keep McCown and draft a QB.
RE: Should add  
mrvax : 2/21/2018 10:18 am : link
In comment 13837843 joeinpa said:
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I wouldn t want Cousins. Would rather get one of the younger guys. Cousins is too similar to what the Jets have done in the past with Farve, Eaison and O Donnell


Exactly. Jets should roll the dice on a rookie QB that they may have as the face of the franchise for many years.
If I'm going to be forced by local  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/21/2018 10:19 am : link
broadcasters to watch the Jets every week, I'd rather they be a top team. I didn't like the Rex Ryan bravado, but I never minded them otherwise.
Kirk Cousins is  
GeoMan999 : 2/21/2018 10:24 am : link
Not Average by any definition.
RE: Kirk Cousins is  
Victor in CT : 2/21/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 13837880 GeoMan999 said:
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Not Average by any definition.


uh, yes he is. he's the definiton of average.
Basically..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/21/2018 10:39 am : link
he is:

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Kirk Cousins is
GeoMan999 : 10:24 am : link : reply
Not Average by any definition.


- Career record of 26-30-1
- 15th in INT %
- 13th in YPA last year
- 17th in QBR

Similar distribution the previous year.
RE: Basically..  
Victor in CT : 2/21/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13837910 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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he is:



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Kirk Cousins is
GeoMan999 : 10:24 am : link : reply
Not Average by any definition.



- Career record of 26-30-1
- 15th in INT %
- 13th in YPA last year
- 17th in QBR

Similar distribution the previous year.


in other words (word): Average
Yep..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/21/2018 10:49 am : link
by several definitions (metrics).
This situation is interesting  
RetroJint : 2/21/2018 10:50 am : link
I was watching Moose & the other guy on SNY last night. They both mentioned that Cousins would be a big improvement over Josh McCown. Granted McCown will be 39 on July 4. Cousins is 30 , but numbers like 30 million in the first year are being thrown around , probably by Russian bots working for his agency.

In ‘17 Cousins started all 16. He went 7-9. 64.3% 4093 yards, 27-12, 7.6, 93.9.

Meanwhile the true franchise QB at Met Life last season started 13 games. He was 5-8 before he injured his elbow. 67.3, 2926, 18-9, 7.4, 94.5.

McCown’s base salary was 6 million with 200K added for each game he started. His line was questionable. Backs that weren’t any better than the Giants had. A blossoming deep threat in Anderson and everybody else pretty much 8-Ball In The Side Pocket ability .

How much are the Jets going to gain for that extra 24 million that they would be coughing up for Cousins? And he will probably get it because Elway is sure to get in on the bidding in a big way.

This is something that people in the NFL grapple with. They don’t understand how the dunk pass has muddied passing statistics , at the expense of the running game. How good is Cousins? John Elway should look at his own career numbers and ask himself, “Was I better than that guy?” The answer is , of course, you were . But they get swept up in these system -scrubbed stats. True value becomes difficult to assess. Regardless of what you think of him, Cousins isn’t worth 30M to play in ‘18. He’s resilient . He’s competitive . He willl take s hit to complete the play, giving his receiver a chance to get open . But he’s not a great player . And, at, 30 , he is not all that young , either . Caveat emptor for the Jets. And I’m glad the Giants will be able to select one of the kids.
Al Toon's late game TD in 1988  
NYG27 : 2/21/2018 11:09 am : link
Still haven't forgiven the Jets for knocking the Giants out of the playoffs. Screw the Jets!
RE: You sure..  
Beezer : 2/21/2018 11:15 am : link
In comment 13837867 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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that's pragmatic??



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Looking at it pragmatically, I think Cousins makes the Jets better. So I'd prefer he NOT become a Jet



shouldn't you prefer that AFC teams become stronger at the expense of NFC teams?


Fair. lol

I should say a DEGREE of pragmatic. Absolutely would prefer an AFC team NOT named the Jets. Can't ever enjoy them getting better. And with him? Yeah ...
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