Play-action! The article uses video clips to showcase Rosen's ability and NFL statistics to demonstrate its value..
Another place Rosen excels with play-action is his ability to turn his back to the defense on the fake from under center. Using play-action from shotgun is not an inferior use of the strategy, but having a quarterback able to turn his back to the defense then reset to throw is an added wrinkle that helps in the sell of the fake. It’s something Matt Ryan struggled with in his first season under Kyle Shanahan in 2015, but mastered during his MVP season in 2016. Rosen already has this down and still adds his accuracy and anticipation — especially to the intermediate parts of the field — on top of it. |
In Minnesota, Pat Shurmur was a big proponent of using play-action with Case Keenum. The Vikings used play-action on 26 percent of their passes attempts and averaged 8.7 yards per attempt on those throws — despite being below average in run efficiency (18th in rushing DVOA). |
As an added bonus (having nothing to do with play-action), here's a link to an old youtube video of Rosen talking about Eli and Peyton and his time at Manning Camp...
Josh Rosen at Manning Camp, June 2016
Linked below is the full article from BigBlueView on Rosen and play-action...
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That's a weird thing to say, his career could be very short. So could any of these guys. He had two concussions in a four-week span, if his skill as a passer and leadership qualities are strong enough, you make him your QB and don't think twice. Otherwise, make Darnold the pick.
It isn't always just about how much you weigh. Its about how you carry that weight. That said, Matt Ryan is the same size and thanks to Ben McAdoo - is the only QB who took every snap under center last year.
Rosen has a very big upside. These labels are misplaced. QB ready means skill for those who refuse to acknowledge. Athleticism in the QBs is overstated, as usual, and the "upside" associated with others is a wishful way of glossing over real issues there is a good chance will never be corrected. Jamarcus Russell was a big dude with a strong arm a lot of scouts fell in love with his upside too. Its like convincing yourself Flower's issues are just "technique" you can easily fix.
I like Rosen a lot because he's just a damn good QB, not some profile for what my "ideal" QB should be. There are some serious concerns as well that need to be vetted before you take the guy and if they don't check out, you don't take him. But you aren't going to find those answers in media reports.
And those same fans will go on to criticize a team who's job it is to do EXTENSIVE homework, background checks on character, medicals, talk to coaches, and look under every rock back to to childhood. Decide a guy checks out, and then does have the balls to pick him based on knowing ALL the positives and negatives (and ALL prospects have negatives). And yes, they still can get it wrong (Apple) or get unlucky (David Wilson) -- but they at least have the information and the balls to make the pick. As Parcells said, this stuff isn't for the feint-hearted.
But hey . . .
Every great qb has had concussions in HS and College but since they were not advertised you think they never happened? Give me a break
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who -- based on the slightest amount of publicly available, surface-level information -- and with no personal risk or responsibility in the matter -- don't have the balls (much less the info) to make a pick make a pick like Rosen -- and then go out of their way to tell other fans what they would or wouldn't do, or be comfortable with?
Milton's provided volumes of information about rosen and stuff that isn't just surface level like Mora holding him out in deference to the two families being friendly at backyard BBQ's!!
His college record means absolutely nothing to me, not even a factor in where he should or shouldn't be drafted. He has all of the physical tools and all of the mental tools to play QB on the next level.
Let's see what he weighs in at the combine. College listed heights/weights are not always accurate, and always err on the side of flattering when they're incorrect. As for Eli, his listed height/weight hasn't changed since he was drafted (which is fairly common in the NFL), but I suspect he pas probably added some weight since then (although not too much).
Besides, even if you they were the exact same height/weight, that wouldn't automatically give Rosen the same durability as Eli. He has already been injured more in college than Eli was in high school, college and the NFL combined.
I think the Giants should...I would.
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I would be happy with Rosen. The concussion history is a deal breaker for me. His career could be very short.
That's a weird thing to say, his career could be very short. So could any of these guys. He had two concussions in a four-week span, if his skill as a passer and leadership qualities are strong enough, you make him your QB and don't think twice. Otherwise, make Darnold the pick.
Two concussions in a 4 week span is not a consideration for a potential #2 pick? Surely you jest. I mean, really?
Let's ignore the leauge focus on CTE for the moment. As a QB the hits he takes in the NFL will make the college hits look like vanilla. A concussion history at a lower level can't be ignored, especially if you are drafting that high. Again, surely you jest.