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NFT: Advice on networking in Linked In

SLIM_ : 2/22/2018 8:24 am
A new company is moving to my area. I utilized LinkedIn to determine if I had any contacts there. I did not have any primary contacts but for one of the employees in the organization that I'm interested in had 20 shared connections. I reached out to him and invited him to be a connection. In that correspondence, I did say that I'm interested in learning more about the company and potentially the position if he was aware of it and requested some time to discuss....


He accepted my invite but didn't respond with any acknowledgement of touching base. Thoughts on if I pursue the issue with another follow up communication. For all I know, he could be involved in the hiring process. I struggle with being too aggressive.
Find the number of the office  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/22/2018 8:28 am : link
and call him. If he doesn't answer don't leave a message, just try him at different times of the day.

Also, I would look and see if they have ANY jobs up on LinkedIn. Usually you will see who is posting them, and you can reach out to that person as well!
Give him a few days  
JonC : 2/22/2018 8:39 am : link
You're a stranger to him, he might have not read your email yet, etc.
RE: Find the number of the office  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/22/2018 8:45 am : link
In comment 13838883 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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and call him. If he doesn't answer don't leave a message, just try him at different times of the day.

Also, I would look and see if they have ANY jobs up on LinkedIn. Usually you will see who is posting them, and you can reach out to that person as well!

With all due respect, I could not disagree more with this advice. If somebody called me at the office based on a blind LinkedIn request, that would do much more harm than good for them in terms of their job prospects for any position I was hiring for or had influence on. And even office phones have caller ID, so keep that in mind before you make repeated phone calls without leaving a message.

I think you can take one more shot with a follow-up message on LinkedIn. That's the only appropriate channel to contact this person, IMO, because it's the only channel through which you're connected, and you've never met directly.

Said another way, if you cold call this person's office, you're basically telemarketing yourself for a job that may or may not even exist, to a person who may or may not have any ability to affect or influence hiring decisions. What do you think the conversion rate is for telemarketing sales calls? And what is the overwhelming reputation of telemarketing sales callers? Don't be a telemarketer.
RE: RE: Find the number of the office  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/22/2018 9:16 am : link
In comment 13838898 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13838883 BigBlueDownTheShore said:


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and call him. If he doesn't answer don't leave a message, just try him at different times of the day.

Also, I would look and see if they have ANY jobs up on LinkedIn. Usually you will see who is posting them, and you can reach out to that person as well!


With all due respect, I could not disagree more with this advice. If somebody called me at the office based on a blind LinkedIn request, that would do much more harm than good for them in terms of their job prospects for any position I was hiring for or had influence on. And even office phones have caller ID, so keep that in mind before you make repeated phone calls without leaving a message.

I think you can take one more shot with a follow-up message on LinkedIn. That's the only appropriate channel to contact this person, IMO, because it's the only channel through which you're connected, and you've never met directly.

Said another way, if you cold call this person's office, you're basically telemarketing yourself for a job that may or may not even exist, to a person who may or may not have any ability to affect or influence hiring decisions. What do you think the conversion rate is for telemarketing sales calls? And what is the overwhelming reputation of telemarketing sales callers? Don't be a telemarketer.


As someone who does this everyday for a living, you would be surprised at the results. However, I will revise the statement.

SLIM, before you call him directly, see if any of your shared connections would be willing to introduce you to him.

If no one can help you from your contacts, you should send him a message on LinkedIn to see when he can be available to speak. To keep the conversation friendly, you can drop the best mutual contact you have with him. I see you are connected with John Smith, who I worked with in the past (Something like this). Give him 2 or 3 options and ask for his cell at that time. Keep it short and direct.

IF that doesn't work, you have to grab the bull by the horns and try to get in contact with him yourself by calling him directly at work. You aren't selling anything, you are just inquiring about the company and who the best person to speak with is. You can always say, hey if you can't speak right now, I understand whats the best number and time to talk to you off the clock.

At the end of the day, you have nothing to lose and all to gain. Your not pushing any agenda for a sale or trying to get him to change jobs.

Hell, sometimes I am given a job to recruit on and I have no clue what I am looking for and I end up asking people in the same field for some pointers. They are more then happy to just give me some direction on what I should be looking for.
Also if the Person you are calling  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/22/2018 9:25 am : link
Is actually in the HR department, then there is a great chance that they are actually doing exactly what I am saying to do themselves. Recruiting passive candidates (People who aren’t actively searching for work, but do want a change in position) requires cold calling into a businesses. Someone in HR will appreciate that you were smart enough to figure out who to talk too, your really interested in the company, and had the guts to call directly into them.

I too would recommend waiting a few days, probably about a week  
Keith : 2/22/2018 9:38 am : link
before following up. When following up, say something like.....I hope I am not annoying you with my persistence, I apologize for reaching out again, I am just very interested in this position and wanted to do my due diligence as soon as possible.
From my experience  
Jay in Toronto : 2/22/2018 9:39 am : link
someone who is appropriately assertive without coming across as pushy is often a great hire.
See if you can get his address  
pjcas18 : 2/22/2018 9:40 am : link
and follow him to work one day and corner him in the elevator.

face to face is always best.

LinkedIn responses are weird.  
manh george : 2/22/2018 11:15 pm : link
I have reached out there to people I know pretty well and never got a response, and I reached out to people I had barely heard of and got into a really good discussion. Very often, as suggested above, you need to find another way to reach out. Some people use the site very sporadically and erratically, or don't really trust it. .
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