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Give him a confidence boot and let him gain from the experience. Mudiay already has had the benefit of that opportunity so let the rookie get some time starting and see if he can get more comfortable and see what happens.

needs burn. His development includes coming to the US, in the most intense city in our country. Those challenges aren't small ones. He's going to either make a huge jump next year or not. That will be telling. Pundits were consistent with their message that he will need some time.
That has been proven this year. It's rare that a rookie comes in and dominates, he needs to get stronger to compete night in and night out. Jonathan Isaac is in the D league.
I think patience is needed before the story is written.

In comment 13839550 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13839549 nygiants16 said: Quote: If both mudiay and Frank develop that would be awesome, but in reality right now Knicks just need 1 to develop, and once 1 seems to be developing more than the other they should trade the other one... This was more of my point than yet another Frank debate. Mudiay or Frank + Monk is a better fit than Mudiay and Frank going forward.

I really don't see why- what has Monk done to prove he is a viable NBA offensive player that Frank has not? Monk has been a worse shooter then Frank, although a more willing one, and can't guard a paper bag.

In comment 13839556 steve in ky said:

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Give him a confidence boot and let him gain from the experience. Mudiay already has had the benefit of that opportunity so let the rookie get some time starting and see if he can get more comfortable and see what happens.

I disagree, I think Frank needs to be playing with a facilitator for right now..

Last thing he needs right now is more pressure to run the offense..

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Give him a confidence boot and let him gain from the experience. Mudiay already has had the benefit of that opportunity so let the rookie get some time starting and see if he can get more comfortable and see what happens.

Mudiay essentially had just 1 season too though. Having Jokic as the de facto point the last 2 years has made EM more of an off ball cutter (his usage rate has been docked down a bit since his rookie year). Plus Murray emerging as almost a top-10 SG this season kind of took away from a career year for Mudiay.

EM has been a great decision maker at all, but if I had to bet on either EM or Frank being a Point in the NBA it's EM for sure. Frank is a bit more timid with the ball, dribbles high and gets flustered with double teams and doesn't have the quickness to really get by them. However, if Frank can be even a league average spot-up shooter, I like his ability to space the floor and being able to attack close outs and make proper reads as a secondary play maker.

to having a position than Monk. Frank is getting 20 minutes a game, while Monk is averaging 12 and has only played double digits in minutes twice since Christmas.

In that span since Christmas Monk is shooting 25% from the field, whereas Frank is shooting 34%.

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In comment 13839556 steve in ky said: Quote: Give him a confidence boot and let him gain from the experience. Mudiay already has had the benefit of that opportunity so let the rookie get some time starting and see if he can get more comfortable and see what happens. Mudiay essentially had just 1 season too though. Having Jokic as the de facto point the last 2 years has made EM more of an off ball cutter (his usage rate has been docked down a bit since his rookie year). Plus Murray emerging as almost a top-10 SG this season kind of took away from a career year for Mudiay. EM has been a great decision maker at all, but if I had to bet on either EM or Frank being a Point in the NBA it's EM for sure. Frank is a bit more timid with the ball, dribbles high and gets flustered with double teams and doesn't have the quickness to really get by them. However, if Frank can be even a league average spot-up shooter, I like his ability to space the floor and being able to attack close outs and make proper reads as a secondary play maker.

I don't disagree with any of that but Mudiay has the benefit of 107 NBA starts under his belt. Frank has seen only limited time in 56 games with zero starts. I think the Knicks should see if Frank can't get a little more comfortable if given the chance of running things before they simply give up on the idea that he can become a pg. Most teams offer their high first round picks at least that.

I think its a horrible sign that Mudiay is getting the starting job over Frank. Frank needs to play. And why do people view Mudiay as this freak athlete? He clearly isn't.

In comment 13839600 TyreeHelmet said:

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I think its a horrible sign that Mudiay is getting the starting job over Frank. Frank needs to play. And why do people view Mudiay as this freak athlete? He clearly isn't.

Idk people view him as a freak athlete? I thought it was silly he was getting Wall comparisons at the draft. But he is an above average athlete for sure. I'd comp his physical attributes to Jrue Holiday, that would be his absolute best case scenario at this point.

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In comment 13839582 objkp13 said: Quote: In comment 13839556 steve in ky said: Quote: Give him a confidence boot and let him gain from the experience. Mudiay already has had the benefit of that opportunity so let the rookie get some time starting and see if he can get more comfortable and see what happens. Mudiay essentially had just 1 season too though. Having Jokic as the de facto point the last 2 years has made EM more of an off ball cutter (his usage rate has been docked down a bit since his rookie year). Plus Murray emerging as almost a top-10 SG this season kind of took away from a career year for Mudiay. EM has been a great decision maker at all, but if I had to bet on either EM or Frank being a Point in the NBA it's EM for sure. Frank is a bit more timid with the ball, dribbles high and gets flustered with double teams and doesn't have the quickness to really get by them. However, if Frank can be even a league average spot-up shooter, I like his ability to space the floor and being able to attack close outs and make proper reads as a secondary play maker. I don't disagree with any of that but Mudiay has the benefit of 107 NBA starts under his belt. Frank has seen only limited time in 56 games with zero starts. I think the Knicks should see if Frank can't get a little more comfortable if given the chance of running things before they simply give up on the idea that he can become a pg. Most teams offer their high first round picks at least that.

I guess, but considering JH is still the coach, he likes running 2 PGs historically, so just cuz Mudiay is listed as the starter may not be exactly how it plays out. Maybe he wants Frank to start off going against backups? Who knows, as long as both guys get a majority of the backcourt minutes going forward I won't complain how it shakes out.

In comment 13839600 TyreeHelmet said:

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I think its a horrible sign that Mudiay is getting the starting job over Frank. Frank needs to play. And why do people view Mudiay as this freak athlete? He clearly isn't.

Frank hasn't done anything to show that he should start. He can't run the backup offense. He'd get embarrassed by opposing starters.

Because the best thing is Knicks lose but I want young guys like mudiay to play well and show something

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I think its a horrible sign that Mudiay is getting the starting job over Frank. Frank needs to play. And why do people view Mudiay as this freak athlete? He clearly isn't.

Frank is not ready to be the starting point

was a promising young coach.

misses a 3 and then gives one up.

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In comment 13839637 Del Shofner said:

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misses a 3 and then gives one up.

Also missed mudiay wide open

do not look interested in defending." - Mike Breen

Haven’t you regularly hammered Kanter because of his defense? Now you’re endorsing Monk who also plays zero defense? Not trying to give you a hard time at all, just a bit curious as to why? It would take Monk about 10 minutes of game time in a Knicks uni for everyone to start freaking out about his lack of defensive skills. So 4 of the 5 starters in your scenario would be defensive stalwarts Kanter, Hardaway, Monk and Mudiay. That team could give up 150 per night

in over Burke as backup point I might be done watching.

TANK! TANK!

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TANK! TANK!

lol, they are working on it. A Dotson sighting!

No idea what hornacek sees in him

this game.

In comment 13839654 nygiants16 said:

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No idea what hornacek sees in him

Every Knick coach since he has been here has loved the guy. There has to be some intangibles of his that appeal to coaches.

Doesn't stand around complaining at the ref, runs back and makes a steal.

#AntiVetMovement

Would of been nice to see hicks instead

& we'd crawl closer to Orlando with a loss tonight.

NICE! LOSE!

Get rid of Hardaway. Selfish, low bball iq no defense couldn't stand him the 1st go around, like him even less this time

the easy bucket should bring excitement to Knicks fans. WITNESS

In comment 13839673 ripdumaine said:

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Get rid of Hardaway. Selfish, low bball iq no defense couldn't stand him the 1st go around, like him even less this time

You post the same exact thing and add nothing else...i am guessing you havnt watched much

Wow

Is a 6th man at best. He flashes, then disappears. He is all O, if that isn't going he offers nothing. At least in my opinion. I would love for him to prove me wrong and i would gladly admit it.

Iverson when he plays.

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Iverson when he plays.

Except better.

I meant physically, he looks like Iverson.

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Is a 6th man at best. He flashes, then disappears. He is all O, if that isn't going he offers nothing. At least in my opinion. I would love for him to prove me wrong and i would gladly admit it.

Unfortunately our 6th man is our best option at the 3 right now. Who isn't all O in the starting 5?

Every one is all o, the Defense is non existent. Our record reflects it. Lee used to play D. Okay Hardaway with a block making me look even more dumb lol. At the end of the day we need losses and better, younger talent that's hungry on both ends

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At the end of the day we need losses and better, younger talent that's hungry on both ends

Which is what is happening on the court right now. Jeff is sticking to his word and so far playing the young guys. Hopefully they can get better and can either stick around or become trade bait. There's no sense in playing Jack or the older vets so many minutes.

Like to see Troy Williams get some time too instead of Lance

And still.. our best PG.

Liked him posting augustine..

8 points 4 assist 5 boards

Hardaway very good all around game 19 points 6 assists, not settling he is attacking

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In comment 13839709 nygiants16 said:

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Hardaway very good all around game 19 points 6 assists, not settling he is attacking

Hardaway (Michigan Man) is very effective when he drives to basket and isn't basing his game solely around the perimeter.

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Needs to spend the summer training with God Shammgod to work on his handle.

Frank as the starting 1?

He's a 2.

Lost count

Stop that man Jeff

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Lost count

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