Davis Webb: "I'm Going To Compete."

In comment 13839793 mrvax said:

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of this draft would be if the Giants really like a certain QB and they get him at #2. But as you said, it's a no-shitter if they don't, you grab the next guy who you think will help the team. So, who do you pick if none of the QBs make the grade? I'd roll with Barkley. And hope Webb has his lifetime dream come true.

I would get out of the spot quite frankly. In a QB loaded draft, teams will move up even if they don’t make the Giants grade.

Grab a few extra picks and call it a day...

Got screwed by this team no reason he should not have been on the field last year except plain stupidity. Now he is being given the we don’t know anything about him grade except that has to be another foolish remark since he has been here one full year yet they don’t know anything about him?

Now I love Allen but if he is the pick at #2, how will you explain that you know anything about him? That’s why it was such a disgrace not to get Webb on the NFL field last year. If we draft a QB we now lock up three spots Eli, Webb and pick, with two of those slots being useless since it seems Eli will start again this year. Can’t trade Webb he is almost a free roster spot for the position he plays for three more years.

IMO this draft class and the draft position this team is in presently demands they take a QB at 2. Now which one depends on a lot still but for NY Darnold or Allen seem to provide the better upside. Of the top three to include Rosen these kids are all unknown except for the same Info they will get as they got last year on Webb prior to the draft. When you hear guys talk about Darnold, Rosen & Allen they point to accuracy, physical size, production and level of competition. Today they also want a QB who can get outside, throw on the move and still stand in the pocket and take a few for the team.

In most cases the player we see today will not be the same in a year or two. Now the teams will try and make them into whatever type of QB the offense they desire will require. I’ve seen Eli for years yet today I still don’t know what offense he is best in other than to say Eli is who he is a middle of the pack NFL QB. Now if you ask yourself which offense best suits Brady, Ben, Rogers, Rivers and Brees the answers are rather simplistic. Now that does not make them perfect but they seem much more comfortable in the offense they are running timeframe is not a consideration because they are the best of the best.

Players never seem to be given this team factor but it’s a major part of the development of players do they fit the role they are being asked to play. Talents may be great or just good but being asked to perform or change the mental game a player has know all his life can destroy the talent or the player. Guy runs like the wind but you ask him to run inside slant the lightbulb goes off somewhere inside. Sometimes the player ends up in the wrong system or coaching personnel. You will hear this guy became a bust or he was not able to learn the playbook but it’s very seldom the coaches just misused the talent they were given.

We have had Eli for a decade plus but it’s still a game played by younger guys there was a day before Eli and there will be ones after. The second pick of the 2018 draft could let us know how soon the after Eli days will arrive we all hope someone starts a new chapter of Giants history.

In comment 13839069 Chris684 said:

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1) He should not stop them from selecting a QB they love, if there is one. 2) He should not be overlooked as a legitimate long term option to replace Eli. 3) We should know more about him than we do after one year but Ben McAdoo and John Mara totally ruined that opportunity.

Agreed.

asset to the site. Nice post and thanks for the information.

Did any of you actually watch a full game of Webb in college? I mean actually watch and not just look at the stat sheet? He's no where close to the top qbs coming out this year. By most recent draft accounts, he would be the 8th qb selected this year. Why- because he has zero accuracy over 10 yards and was frighteningly incapable of making even the simplest reads, regardless of the offense he played in.

Also, any gm that selected a rb with the second pick when you have glaring needs on the offensive line, at the quarterback position, in the pass rush amongst other areas should immediately be fired. It's the least important position on offensive. Those of you that like to point out a qb like Foles winning a sb -which by the way is extremely rare, there really no debating that- how many rbs in the past two sbs were selected in round 1? How many in rd 2? How many were undrafted? What you did see is teams with great offensive lines and both rode great qbs just about all season.

trying to find posts with positives about Webb that discuss anything but intangibles.

Nobody can intelligently discuss his footwork, his accuracy, his ability to read a defense, or even his pocket awareness because we've seen almost nothing from him.

So instead of just realizing this is the case, people still prattle on about him by saying he's "just a football guy" - "Is a film junkie" "Has a pathological desire to win" "Is a grinder" "is the hardest worker on the team" "spent a year soaking up everything football related". And a lot of statements that aren't even observations - they are just fluff ways of spouting off on intangibles.

Webb may very well turn out good. Or maybe he won't. I don't have any damn idea and I don't even know enough about him to make up a list of intangible attributes.

If they end up with Barkley and Jackson/Rudolph, I'd be pretty happy.

Problem is that I doubt that will happen. I feel that there is going to be a run on QBs as has happened frequently over the last 7-8 years or so.