Snacks on Quenton Nelson

If we don't love one of the QB's, I'd be all for a beast OL. I'm wondering where we could move back to and still get him. 6?

but this guy is a stud. I think looking at the draft as a means to fortify your roster as well as find developmental players. Nelson fills a huge need and will step in and start day one.

Quenton Nelson was recruited to play OT but was moved inside to get him on field faster. If he can get to 320-325 he could be a great right tackle with his present skill set

and pick him up at 5 or 6 or whatever they have.

In comment 13840041 Aaron Thomas said:

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Quenton Nelson was recruited to play OT but was moved inside to get him on field faster. If he can get to 320-325 he could be a great right tackle with his present skill set

Isn't he 330/335? I don't see tackle in him. I see road grader guard - right where he is.

players drafted in the 1st rd inside the top 10 that entered the draft as a guard - they are Brandon Scherff (who I'm pretty sure was one of those G/T), Jonathan Cooper, Chance Womack and Chris Naeole. the highest being draft at #5 (Scherff)
Kid might be a stud - but the Giants would be really be entering some unchartered waters by selecting him #2.

He's as close to can't miss as there is in this class, aside from my man crush Barkley. Dude is built like a refrigerator, only with arms, and legs and a head, ok he's not like a refrigerator at all, he's just a very large square human?

not a great pick at 2, though. Good target if they don't love the guys at the top of the draft and want to trade down.

Bring him in for a private workout. If he can block Snacks trade down and grab him. (Not at 2) and move forward.

just not at 2.

and pick up Denver's #1 next year.

Take Nelson and then Sony Michel in the 2nd.

You have Eli in 2018 and Shurmur can further evaluate Webb, just to be certain of what we do or don't have in him.

You then enter the 2019 draft with 2 #1's to manipulate the draft in your favor if you need a QB or take 2 more starters if Shurmur wants to proceed with Webb.

Really making the media rounds eh? I love the “I don’t like O linemen” part. Keep beastin’ Big Snacks!

Regarding Nelson, there’s no such thing as can’t miss in the NFL, and sure, I’d take him, but not at 2, and as much as I love Eli, I’m taking a QB in this draft.

isn't worth it at #2 but is worth it at #8. You only get one pick, and trades are very hard to do. If he's the guy you want you take him. You don't take someone you want less because he is more "acceptable" at #2.

"He's so unique because he's big, but he's not fat. He's one of the best run blockers I've ever evaluated, but he's not a liability in pass protection Mike Iupati is. He's also an alpha who can bring and ass-kicking mindset into your position room."
the writer says he is built like a bank safe, similar to Joey's fridge analogy.

I think he qualifies as a hog mollie.

In comment 13840041 Aaron Thomas said:

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Quenton Nelson was recruited to play OT but was moved inside to get him on field faster. If he can get to 320-325 he could be a great right tackle with his present skill set

I'm sure he is way better than Hart, Newhouse and any of the other scrubs we have had at RT, and he could definitely play there in a pinch, but to me I see Hall-of-fame, all decade team potential from Nelson at guard in the NFL.

If the Giants don't go QB, he'd be on my list along with Barkley for the #2 pick. Perhaps we can even trade down a couple slots and stock pile a few other picks as well while still getting Nelson.

Nelson + Jones/Guice/Chubb/Michel > Barkley to me, although I love Barkley and would not complain with Barkley + a Rd 2 OL such as Price or Wynn.

In comment 13840155 Chris684 said:

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and pick up Denver's #1 next year. Take Nelson and then Sony Michel in the 2nd. You have Eli in 2018 and Shurmur can further evaluate Webb, just to be certain of what we do or don't have in him. You then enter the 2019 draft with 2 #1's to manipulate the draft in your favor if you need a QB or take 2 more starters if Shurmur wants to proceed with Webb.

Get a 2 a 3 and next years 1. Take Nelson and a Center with one of the 2 or threes (Clapp, Price, Ragnow, or other).

Take an RB with one of the two or threes.

Use the other 2 and 3 for BPA (DT, S, LB).

Use the 2019 #1 to trade up if we need a QB.

Looks like a right guard. He is much less effective when pulling. Sometimes looks lost.

In comment 13840051 Jon in NYC said:

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and pick him up at 5 or 6 or whatever they have.

And history would say that someone grabs him at #4.

In comment 13840180 PatersonPlank said:

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isn't worth it at #2 but is worth it at #8. You only get one pick, and trades are very hard to do. If he's the guy you want you take him. You don't take someone you want less because he is more "acceptable" at #2.

I do not agree. Certain players and positions are assigned a value to the team. If they like a player that has a 3rd round value, they aren't drafting them in the 1st or 2nd because they like them. Everyone has a value. Also, draft day trades are not difficult. They hae what, 15 minutes? Teams will call and make offers on the spot. They usually happen pretty quickly on draft day.

and then draft this kid! We'd only have to find 2 or 3 more starting lineman!

I think a trade down and picking Nelson makes sense. What he does in highlights is something we haven't seen here in years. Do management and fans really want to wait 2-3 years for new QB to play? Shurmur can win with the Keenum's and Foles' of the world. That sounds like Webb. Gentlemen likes big guys upfront. Let's get one or four. With a real OL this team can compete.
Nelson highlights - ( New Window )

My son forwarded me this video of a Quenton Nelson block he saw in a Todd McShay tweet:
How about this for awareness?

When was the last time I saw a guard who is actually fun to watch? What awareness. He's a pancake maker. A human eclipse.

I have no problem with trading down to the Broncos for an extra high 2nd Round plus maybe a 3rd, 4th or 5th rounder to get this guy.

Given Gettlemen's fondness for Hog Mollies and Shurmur's offensive line background, I can easily see that happening.

He is special.

In comment 13840409 T in NJ said:

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My son forwarded me this video of a Quenton Nelson block he saw in a Todd McShay tweet: How about this for awareness?

That was insane

Is going to want to do that trade .....who do they want ?

Gotta figure that Elway could have a hard-on for either Allen or Darnold. Maybe a Rosen, because he's a bit more "plug and play" than the other two.

A 3-13 team with an aging QB and holes all over the place is going to take a guard with the 2nd overall pick (or trade down to 4th or 6th)? Ahh...oooK.

I have said this before. I absolutely love Nelson and how dominant he is. But we don't need a unicorn. Because we have a poor OL we don't need to take the greatest college guard to fix it. We need good OLineman be it via FA or the 2-4th rnds of the draft. Save your #2 overall for skill position players.

In comment 13840180 PatersonPlank said:

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isn't worth it at #2 but is worth it at #8. You only get one pick, and trades are very hard to do. If he's the guy you want you take him. You don't take someone you want less because he is more "acceptable" at #2.

You've never "bought this theory" that a player + a draft pick is worth more than a player alone? So Nelson + a future first round pick is worth more than just Nelson. That doesn't change the equation for you?

It's not about taking someone you want less; it's about maximizing value. If the guy you have ranked highest doesn't represent optimal value for the draft slot, you can mitigate that by adding draft assets to the player (by way of trading down) in order to maximize value.

I agree that many people tend to throw around the idea of trading down as though it's as simple in reality as it is on First Pick or Madden, but that doesn't mean that a team shouldn't be actively exploring those options.

Better snatch him at 2

Because the Colts will pounce on him at 3

He is exactly what the Colts need

In comment 13840919 Flem17454 said:

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Better snatch him at 2 Because the Colts will pounce on him at 3 He is exactly what the Colts need

That's fine. They can have him. There are guards just as good as him that will be available at #34. And it'll have the added benefit of making you go away when the Giants pass on him.

In comment 13840969 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 13840919 Flem17454 said: Quote: Better snatch him at 2 Because the Colts will pounce on him at 3 He is exactly what the Colts need That's fine. They can have him. There are guards just as good as him that will be available at #34. And it'll have the added benefit of making you go away when the Giants pass on him.

Gettleman isn't stupid. He will draft a QB if a guy they like is still there at #2. If not, the Giants will listen to trade down possibilities. This is the only situation where the Giants would consider a guard this early. If no trade downs are available, they will pick Barkley or Chubb or Fitzpatrick.

In comment 13840969 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 13840919 Flem17454 said: Quote: Better snatch him at 2 Because the Colts will pounce on him at 3 He is exactly what the Colts need That's fine. They can have him. There are guards just as good as him that will be available at #34. And it'll have the added benefit of making you go away when the Giants pass on him.

Nah, I want Nelson on the Giants, not the Colts.