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Bart Scott Eli hate

Njgfan : 2/23/2018 4:29 pm
What's up with Bart Scott and his Eli hate. Every time something comes up with Eli he dumps on him. Today he told a caller that Eli led the league in INTs the last 3 years? Wrong! Then told another caller that Eli is not a top 25 QB or in the league. A little while later he said that among NFL players that really matter and know the truth it's not even close between Phillip Rivers and Eli. This guy has a hard on for Eli. Maggie tries to call him out on some of it but he just over talks her and acts like " well I played so I know". The guy is an ass. Beyond that the show kinda sucks and I have found myself listening to more PHILLY sports radio and that hurts my brain at times. What is his problem
Next time  
superspynyg : 2/23/2018 4:32 pm : link
Call him on it.
Scott seems to really identify with his time with NYJ  
Chris684 : 2/23/2018 4:32 pm : link
more so than Baltimore.

He was probably involved in covering up the SB paintings at MetLife before Eli and Cruz ripped his heart out on Christmas Eve.

Jealousy and Envy.
Why listen...  
Chris in Philly : 2/23/2018 4:33 pm : link
to that verbal diarrhea?
And when Eli comes on the air with them  
bceagle05 : 2/23/2018 4:35 pm : link
they'll kiss his ass.
Listening  
Njgfan : 2/23/2018 4:38 pm : link
To get a little info on the Giants and what they are going to do in free agency and the draft. I pop in and out between the stations and actually think Maggie knows more then the other 2 combined. I'm in the car all day and give them a chance but CMB is bad.
eli has sucked the past couple years  
GiantsFan84 : 2/23/2018 4:44 pm : link
bart scott is an idiot and i have no idea why he's employed by the media.

but make no mistake eli has been awful the last couple seasons.
Listening to that show then complaining about hearing garbage  
mfsd : 2/23/2018 4:51 pm : link
is like jumping in the ocean then complaining about getting wet
I bet he is still  
McNally's_Nuts : 2/23/2018 5:04 pm : link
sour about 12/24/2011.

He’s a baby back bitch
That show is still on?  
arniefez : 2/23/2018 5:14 pm : link
I feel bad for people who can't afford Sirius.
Chris Carlin is wirse  
joeinpa : 2/23/2018 5:19 pm : link
During the Eli controversy he predicted Eli would never return to the Giants.

He tried to create that same controversy today. Some of these guys can never admit they were wrong.

I don t listen very long to them. Sometimes when like today when I m working around the house I tune in for a bit.

But I agree, they aren t very good

Miss Mike
This show is embarrassingly awful.  
Brian in Hoboken : 2/23/2018 5:20 pm : link
They are constantly making factually false statements. It’s one thing to have ridiculous opinions, but at least please be factually accurate.

Today Bart Scott said Eli is not a top 25 QB, but during the first week of the show he said the only difference between Tom Brady and Eli Manning at this stage of their career’s is arm strength.

I’m in the car all day and try to listen, but they are absolutely painful to listen to when talking baseball. Although 90% of their content is what the Giants and Jets will do at QB moving forward. I have no clue what they are going talk about, and how awful they will be from after the NFL draft to the start of training camp.
Complaining ok.  
Njgfan : 2/23/2018 5:22 pm : link
If no complaints were allowed on hear you could delete 80% of the posts. I'm just askind what his issue is. Maybe someone knows an underlying instance that happened. Opinions are opinions I just don't know how he can get away with constantly stating things as fact that are not true and not getting called out by the other 2. I tweeted Maggie and asked her to call him out. Sirius is something I am considering. Sports radio right now is baseball or philly radio and how they are now calling themselves title town after 1 Super Bowl win LOL. I'm starving for some draft and free agency talk.
RE: Complaining ok.  
mfsd : 2/23/2018 5:31 pm : link
In comment 13840864 Njgfan said:
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If no complaints were allowed on hear you could delete 80% of the posts. I'm just askind what his issue is. Maybe someone knows an underlying instance that happened. Opinions are opinions I just don't know how he can get away with constantly stating things as fact that are not true and not getting called out by the other 2. I tweeted Maggie and asked her to call him out. Sirius is something I am considering. Sports radio right now is baseball or philly radio and how they are now calling themselves title town after 1 Super Bowl win LOL. I'm starving for some draft and free agency talk.


I was just breaking your balls...but the truth is, that’s the schtick they’re going for - say a bunch of obnoxious stuff, get fans riled up, and get people talking about them.
Because it makes people like you say his name.  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 2/23/2018 5:48 pm : link
The question is why do you listen to it? I'm a perfect world the majority of people only pay attention to substance and that forces the media to give us more.
In  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 2/23/2018 5:49 pm : link
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I don’t think he hates Eli  
Rflairr : 2/23/2018 5:50 pm : link
He’s just being real. They can’t depend on Eli being good. He’s an old QB.
I can't fathom listening  
bceagle05 : 2/23/2018 5:53 pm : link
to anything those three have to say about baseball. Hopefully they inherited Francesa's summer vacation schedule so WFAN can get some intelligent folks in there to talk Yankees and Mets.
RE: I can't fathom listening  
Rflairr : 2/23/2018 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13840897 bceagle05 said:
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to anything those three have to say about baseball. Hopefully they inherited Francesa's summer vacation schedule so WFAN can get some intelligent folks in there to talk Yankees and Mets.


It’s a brutal show. Im thinking of going to Sirius
Being real  
Njgfan : 2/23/2018 6:23 pm : link
He's not being real saying Eli led the NFL in interceptions. I get it he is on the downswing. But for this year he is probably the best bet to transition to another QB. Webb or a new rookie is not ready. Eli is serviceable and with Shurmur can be a top 15 QB or better if they get a Oline and any type of running game.
The Truth sometimes hurts...  
Blue Angel : 2/23/2018 6:32 pm : link
Eli is not a good QB anymore and the Giants are making a mistake by having him being the starter next year!
Its an act of desperation  
Manning10 : 2/23/2018 6:32 pm : link
You want Giants fans to get riled up and call the show just do some Eli Hate ( was a Craig Carton specialty)
Early ratings returns are not good for this crew so far.
It's fair to criticize Manning  
weeg in the bronx : 2/23/2018 6:40 pm : link
However reference actual facts, acknowledge the lack of talent. He touted Rivers while calling Eli high int totals, ignoring Rivers has led the league in ints two of last four years.
RE: The Truth sometimes hurts...  
sundayatone : 2/23/2018 6:41 pm : link
In comment 13840923 Blue Angel said:
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Eli is not a good QB anymore and the Giants are making a mistake by having him being the starter next year!



bingo
Truth or opinion  
Njgfan : 2/23/2018 7:18 pm : link
I believe that Eli is better then Peyton in his last run. I think Eli can manage a team to wins. His mind is not aged for the worse. The biggest problem is his him seeing ghosts and panicking to early due to the line play. He has always been quick to bail and avoid getting blasted since he took a near death blow early in his career against I think philly. Shurmurs offense is based on making the safe pass to the open guy and letting the receiver make something happen. Does anyone think Eli is not capable of that anymore? I see this as his farewell tour hopefully he goes out respectfully and we move on to a young QB who has learned the offense for a year.
I swear some of our more endearing trolls here have an alarm set up  
mfsd : 2/23/2018 7:25 pm : link
that notifies them every time Eli’s name is mentioned in a discussion, so they can jump on ASAP to dump on him
Mf  
Njgfan : 2/23/2018 7:35 pm : link
I agree
Who gives a shit what Eli haters think or say.  
Giant John : 2/24/2018 5:04 am : link
Including ones on this thread. Two Super Bowls/MVP’s. Hey Scott where you keep your rings?
RE: It's fair to criticize Manning  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/24/2018 5:31 am : link
In comment 13840928 weeg in the bronx said:
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However reference actual facts, acknowledge the lack of talent. He touted Rivers while calling Eli high int totals, ignoring Rivers has led the league in ints two of last four years.

And Eli has led the league in interceptions during three separate seasons of his career and has thrown more interceptions than any other QB (by 30, IIRC) since he entered the league. Bart Scott may have gotten his exact stats wrong, but his overall point is probably valid.

It annoys me to defend Scott, because I think he's a painful listen, but let's not pretend like Scott being factually inaccurate means we should all of a sudden ignore Eli's declining performance.
Which in and of itself ignores the lack of performance  
Bill L : 2/24/2018 7:08 am : link
Of the offense as a whole.
RE: RE: It's fair to criticize Manning  
sundayatone : 2/24/2018 7:28 am : link
In comment 13841104 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13840928 weeg in the bronx said:


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However reference actual facts, acknowledge the lack of talent. He touted Rivers while calling Eli high int totals, ignoring Rivers has led the league in ints two of last four years.


And Eli has led the league in interceptions during three separate seasons of his career and has thrown more interceptions than any other QB (by 30, IIRC) since he entered the league. Bart Scott may have gotten his exact stats wrong, but his overall point is probably valid.

It annoys me to defend Scott, because I think he's a painful listen, but let's not pretend like Scott being factually inaccurate means we should all of a sudden ignore Eli's declining performance.


facts not allowed in the eli cult club.
We also  
crick n NC : 2/24/2018 7:56 am : link
shouldn't ignore the situation Manning has been in which includes a very questionable offensive system (Mac), and inability to shore up the OL to at least functional.
I get  
crick n NC : 2/24/2018 7:59 am : link
that Manning is probably in decline, although I don't think his ability to throw the ball has declined, but his ability to avoid the rush has. What i don't get is saying he's not a good qb anymore while leaving out the situation he's been playing in for several seasons.
It's one thing to not like Eli and express that  
Matt M. : 2/24/2018 8:44 am : link
It's another thing to "back up" that opinion with incorrect stats and facts.

I don't normally lay stuff like this much mind because people have been dumping on Eli for more than a decade. Personally, I don't think he sucks now, nor did I ever. I also don't think he has significantly regressed. But, I can understand someone making an intelligent argument that he has. This is not one of those.

I truly think the Giants offensive problems the last 2 years have a lot more to do with McAdoo's system and a terrible OL, which are related. Apparently,their new HC and GM, both highly respected, seem to feel the same way.

Are there really 25-30 other QBs he would take over Eli? Would Eli not instantly make his beloved Jets a better team?
RE: Which in and of itself ignores the lack of performance  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/24/2018 8:47 am : link
In comment 13841115 Bill L said:
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Of the offense as a whole.

For Eli's entire career? The offense is to blame for him throwing more interceptions (and having more fumbles, by the way) than any other QB since he entered the league? Is he just a conveyor belt worker in the turnover factory?
Agree Matt 100%  
Njgfan : 2/24/2018 9:31 am : link
Years ago Eli was a TO machine. I think 5 years ago he threw 27 when it was a chuck it down the field offense and that's way to much. In the last 4 years he has done much better. Scott references the last 3 years. If he said Eli for his career has a lot of INTs different story. We are talking 2018. In Shurmurs low risk system does Eli have the ability to digest his offense and play within it. Some not so great QBs have had great years in this system and I gotta believe that Eli has enough ability left and certainly enough brains to run the show. The offense is about getting the ball in the playmakers hands. So the question is does Odell, Shepard and Engram have enough ability at receiver and can we establish production out of the backfield running and catching?
RE: RE: Which in and of itself ignores the lack of performance  
sundayatone : 2/24/2018 9:34 am : link
In comment 13841155 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13841115 Bill L said:


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Of the offense as a whole.


For Eli's entire career? The offense is to blame for him throwing more interceptions (and having more fumbles, by the way) than any other QB since he entered the league? Is he just a conveyor belt worker in the turnover factory?


2005-2011- terrific qb 2012-2017 mediocre qb
Why would anyone care  
paesan98 : 2/24/2018 9:45 am : link
what Bart Scott thinks? He was never anything more than an over-hyped JAG. Now he tries to tear down a two-time SB MVP. He's an ass.
Dumping on Eli is getting old  
Bruner4329 : 2/24/2018 9:54 am : link
Funny Eli can no longer avoid the rush. Hard to avoid an onslaught when they come right at you. He can't even step up in the pocket because more often than not there is no pocket. The OL has sucked the last few years. I give Eli credit for just being alive.
RE: RE: I can't fathom listening  
Bruner4329 : 2/24/2018 9:59 am : link
In comment 13840900 Rflairr said:
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to anything those three have to say about baseball. Hopefully they inherited Francesa's summer vacation schedule so WFAN can get some intelligent folks in there to talk Yankees and Mets.



It’s a brutal show. Im thinking of going to Sirius


There are no options on the drive home anymore. Yesterday I turned on the radio at 6PM on way home from work and these clowns are commenting on useless facts that the producer is throwing out at them. Switch over to Kay's show and they are doing another stupid ENN with that clown Rosenberg. It does not get any worse. Prime time drive home in NY and you have this garbage. What happened to the hometown NY Sports talk Radio.
RE: I swear some of our more endearing trolls here have an alarm set up  
Route 9 : 2/24/2018 10:34 am : link
In comment 13840956 mfsd said:
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that notifies them every time Eli’s name is mentioned in a discussion, so they can jump on ASAP to dump on him


They don't even do much of a good job at trying to hide it here either. Same old boring shit.
RE: RE: I swear some of our more endearing trolls here have an alarm set up  
sundayatone : 2/24/2018 10:39 am : link
In comment 13841264 Route 9 said:
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In comment 13840956 mfsd said:


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that notifies them every time Eli’s name is mentioned in a discussion, so they can jump on ASAP to dump on him



They don't even do much of a good job at trying to hide it here either. Same old boring shit.


yeah,all the eli cultists trolls make it so easy.
Hey. I was having trouble sleeping at night  
Route 9 : 2/24/2018 11:17 am : link
but reading the same posters saying the same old shit over and over on here kind of...Zzzzz
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