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NFT: Yanks talk: Stanton did look good in pinstripes yesterday.

superspynyg : 2/24/2018 8:45 am
His first game of ST. Can’t wait till he gets hot. I may be the only guy pulling for Ellsbury. He was bad in the first half last year but got hot at the end to help us make a run at the Sox.

I looked at the Tigers depth chart and their outfield is a complete joke. They have Castillanos in RF, L Martin in CF and Mahtook in LF. Why would they not push for Clint Frazier for Fulmer trade. He is better than their whole outfield. They know they can’t win and should re tool now.
I don't know  
Giantsfan79 : 2/24/2018 8:59 am : link
he was 0-1 yesterday with a walk and a double play. Clearly he's a bust!!!!
What Kind of Thread Title is That???  
Jim in Tampa : 2/24/2018 9:43 am : link
I assume you're just trying to capture attention with a provocative thread title and get a discussion going, but Stanton had one official AB yesterday and one unofficial AB where he worked a walk. As you know he's also a proven veteran and the reigning NL MVP with nothing to prove in his first spring training game of the year. Who cares how he looked?
Tigers outfield a joke?  
HomerJones45 : 2/24/2018 11:00 am : link
Castellanos hit 300 last year with 26 homers and 100 rbi's at sge 25. He's far from a joke.

Martin and Mahtook are cautionary examples for you "prospects uber alles" guys. Both were very highly ranked prospects who have had rocky roads in the majors.
Did The Headline Change or  
Jim in Tampa : 2/24/2018 11:02 am : link
Did I misread it the first time?

LOL.

I thought it said that Stanton did NOT look good in pinstripes yesterday.
I won’t go so far to say I’m rooting for Ellsbury  
mfsd : 2/24/2018 12:57 pm : link
but I don’t hate the guy...he’s a good ball player, always has been...WHEN healthy. He’s never been and never will be worth $21 million/year, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a solid MLB player.

Trouble is, it’s guaranteed he’ll get hurt at some point every season. He had a good hot streak for several weeks last season, then got his concussion.

Will be curious to see if he comes around on waiving his no trade once he accepts he’s the 5th OF at best on this team...soon to be 6th behind Frazier.

Then, can Cashman pull some wizardry and foist him on someone
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mitch300 : 2/24/2018 12:57 pm : link
Took the title as seeing Stanton in the Yankee pinstripes is a good thing.
RE: Tigers outfield a joke?  
BigBlueShock : 2/24/2018 1:07 pm : link
In comment 13841288 HomerJones45 said:
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Castellanos hit 300 last year with 26 homers and 100 rbi's at sge 25. He's far from a joke.

Martin and Mahtook are cautionary examples for you "prospects uber alles" guys. Both were very highly ranked prospects who have had rocky roads in the majors.

You’re right. The Yanks should have traded Sanchez, Judge, Severino, Betances, Torres and Frazier while they still had a chance because they are way too risky. Should have traded them for overpriced veterans before they had no value. No they are screwed.

You continue to baffle the mind. Incessantly ripping on prospects at a time that prospects have absolutely carried the Yanks and reset their hope for a long and prosperous future. Congratulations on your brilliance
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superspynyg : 2/24/2018 1:24 pm : link
In comment 13841395 mitch300 said:
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Took the title as seeing Stanton in the Yankee pinstripes is a good thing.


YUP
RE: Tigers outfield a joke?  
superspynyg : 2/24/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13841288 HomerJones45 said:
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Castellanos hit 300 last year with 26 homers and 100 rbi's at sge 25. He's far from a joke.

Martin and Mahtook are cautionary examples for you "prospects uber alles" guys. Both were very highly ranked prospects who have had rocky roads in the majors.



Ummm, he hit .272 not 300. Not bad but not a cornerstone guy for when Miggy hangs it up. Martin and Martook are not future guys. Now Frazier would be a good pickup for them. Young and controllable for years.
RE: RE: Tigers outfield a joke?  
rich in DC : 2/24/2018 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13841426 superspynyg said:
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In comment 13841288 HomerJones45 said:


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Castellanos hit 300 last year with 26 homers and 100 rbi's at sge 25. He's far from a joke.

Martin and Mahtook are cautionary examples for you "prospects uber alles" guys. Both were very highly ranked prospects who have had rocky roads in the majors.




Ummm, he hit .272 not 300. Not bad but not a cornerstone guy for when Miggy hangs it up. Martin and Martook are not future guys. Now Frazier would be a good pickup for them. Young and controllable for years.


I will NEVER understand this desire by fans to trade Frazier.

First, he really is a high end talent who had a rough introduction to MLB. So what, so did Judge. Now, I'm not saying that Frazier is going to be Rookie of the Year and an MVP candidate, but his upside IS a well above average OF.

Second, he is their best insurance policy. What happens if Hicks reverts to the 2013-2016 version of himself? The Yanks won't be able to keep starting him. That means either Ellsbury takes over in CF or Gardner moves to CF. Frazier might be needed to man LF or DH in that case (depending what they do with Stanton).

Third- Gardner is a FA after 2018. Now reaching his mid-30's, he is now on the tail end of his career. He is highly unlikely to be brought back. That means that either Stanton moves to LF and Frazier probably becomes the DH, or Frazier takes over LF and Stanton and Judge rotate between DH and RF.

The Yanks are thin in upper level bats for the OF and DH spots. Thus, Frazier is a key guy in 2019 who gives them a LOT of flexibility in how they go forward.

With that said, if someone puts a true ace on the market in July (we are talking the deGrom, Snydergard, Bumgarner types), then yes, the Yanks have to think about putting Frazier in that deal because those true aces are rare. But, not for less than that. He has a LOT of value going forward.
rich, with you. Frazier’s someone you try to keep  
wigs in nyc : 2/24/2018 3:30 pm : link
unless an amazing offer is there. I never got the rush to trade him either. He’s the starting LF next year.
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christian : 2/24/2018 4:05 pm : link
Every move the Yanks have made in the last 12 months Frazier has come up, and in each one Cash has held onto him. They've trade talent all throughout the minors for major league talent and have kept him.

Given the track record of the player development and evaluation folks lately, I trust Frazier is a big part of what they do. Either on the field or to get a top tier vet.


I'm with you guys on Frazier  
Kyle in NY : 2/24/2018 4:07 pm : link
He's a tremendous insurance policy right now and the likely starting LF next season. Stanton and Hicks both have some injury history. And Hicks has yet to put together a full above average season at the plate. Gardner will also need regular rest as he tends to wear down late in the season. Frazier can be utilized in all of these scenarios

I also feel like his cameo last season was much better than it's getting credit for. He showed legit power with lots of extra base hits. He seems quite motivated as well, I like what he's been saying this spring
Cashman has earned some credit from the fans  
adamg : 2/24/2018 4:09 pm : link
I imagine Frazier isn't moving unless we're getting good value coming back. And if he ends up part of the future, I'm excited for #77. Keeping Stanton as a DH isn't a bad thing for the health of the club going forward either...
I get the sense  
bceagle05 : 2/24/2018 4:11 pm : link
Frazier is too good of a prospect to give up for a #3 pitcher (Cole), but not quite good enough to land you a #1/#2 pitcher (Fulmer/Archer). Fine with me - there are plenty of at-bats for him in 2019 and beyond. And who knows what can happen this season? I'm a big fan of his.
Yanks won today 4-1  
Del Shofner : 2/24/2018 4:12 pm : link
- 3-run HR by McKinney.
Yanks at Phillies on MLB Network.  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2018 1:14 pm : link
Ellsbury and Gleyber each single to start the game. Gleyber looks like such a natural out there.
Espinoza cleared the bases with a double.  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2018 1:44 pm : link
Monty looks sharp. Sheffield coming in next. Yankees up 3-0.
Sheffield breezes through a 1-2-3 third.  
bceagle05 : 2/25/2018 2:03 pm : link
Two Ks and a jam shot.
RE: Sheffield breezes through a 1-2-3 third.  
section125 : 2/25/2018 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13842117 bceagle05 said:
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Two Ks and a jam shot.


A little off the next inning with the walks and a 2 run 2 out jack. But he looked quite good as far as I am concerned.
He looked like what he is at this point  
arniefez : 2/25/2018 2:41 pm : link
a high end AA pitcher about to get to AAA. Hopefully by mid season he's an option for the Bronx.
RE: RE: RE: Tigers outfield a joke?  
Matt M. : 2/25/2018 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13841498 rich in DC said:
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Castellanos hit 300 last year with 26 homers and 100 rbi's at sge 25. He's far from a joke.

Martin and Mahtook are cautionary examples for you "prospects uber alles" guys. Both were very highly ranked prospects who have had rocky roads in the majors.




Ummm, he hit .272 not 300. Not bad but not a cornerstone guy for when Miggy hangs it up. Martin and Martook are not future guys. Now Frazier would be a good pickup for them. Young and controllable for years.



I will NEVER understand this desire by fans to trade Frazier.

First, he really is a high end talent who had a rough introduction to MLB. So what, so did Judge. Now, I'm not saying that Frazier is going to be Rookie of the Year and an MVP candidate, but his upside IS a well above average OF.

Second, he is their best insurance policy. What happens if Hicks reverts to the 2013-2016 version of himself? The Yanks won't be able to keep starting him. That means either Ellsbury takes over in CF or Gardner moves to CF. Frazier might be needed to man LF or DH in that case (depending what they do with Stanton).

Third- Gardner is a FA after 2018. Now reaching his mid-30's, he is now on the tail end of his career. He is highly unlikely to be brought back. That means that either Stanton moves to LF and Frazier probably becomes the DH, or Frazier takes over LF and Stanton and Judge rotate between DH and RF.

The Yanks are thin in upper level bats for the OF and DH spots. Thus, Frazier is a key guy in 2019 who gives them a LOT of flexibility in how they go forward.

With that said, if someone puts a true ace on the market in July (we are talking the deGrom, Snydergard, Bumgarner types), then yes, the Yanks have to think about putting Frazier in that deal because those true aces are rare. But, not for less than that. He has a LOT of value going forward.
Agree 100%.
Yanks looking good thus far.  
Dave in Hoboken : 2/25/2018 3:34 pm : link
I know it's just spring training, but it's still nice to see.
The depth through the system shows up in ST games  
arniefez : 2/25/2018 3:40 pm : link
It's exciting how many good players the Yankees have at all levels. They're all used to winning at every level too.
RE: The depth through the system shows up in ST games  
Matt M. : 2/25/2018 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13842172 arniefez said:
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It's exciting how many good players the Yankees have at all levels. They're all used to winning at every level too.
That's exactly right. Their 2nd and 3rd units perform at a high level compared to other teams' minor leaguers now.
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