Barely playing in the preseason really hurt the offense the first few weeks.
Yes our offense was really bad all year, but it was especially awful the first few weeks because our WR were rusty from barely playing in the preseason. It took until the Eagles game before Eli and WRs were in the same page.
Barely playing in the preseason really hurt the offense the first few weeks.
Yes our offense was really bad all year, but it was especially awful the first few weeks because our WR were rusty from barely playing in the preseason. It took until the Eagles game before Eli and WRs were in the same page.
The one person who really hurt the offense was fired.
If we're going to say preseason with a new offense and possibly a new quarterback from the future doesn't matter, then where does it end?
I don't blame Beckham for wanting to get paid. It's just amusing to see in light of being fed a bullshit storyline about how he's so much more driven than everyone else, and is amusing to now see a preseason rationalized away as unneeded.
I'd say the same about you. There are four or five white knights on this board that protect this clown from anyone who would besmirch his honor.
I’m not on either side, but his 2017 season was ruined by a borderline cheap shot. It’s understanable he doesn’t want to play in meaningless games. I don’t think you have to question his desire to win football games because of that statement.
saying “fuck the team”. He guy is trying to get a new contact after a season ending injury. Why should he risk anything?
He didn’t play much last preseason and didn’t skip a beat. I know that doesn’t jive with your scathing of him, but it’s the reality of how good he is and how he will adapt well in any offense. I’d worry about the other players who aren’t as good and bitch about them.
for the love of god just trade the kid already. Every single one of these stupid little nudges decreases his value. He would have been worth a RG3 type haul last offseason when I was BEGGING the Giants to trade him. A 3-13 season later and where are we?
Beckham is a commodity and if he was a stock we would be sitting here watching it plummet in value while ignoring the trend in blind hope that it would rebound.
All time greats don't do this type of stuff. 100 million dollar contract players don't do this. Those need to be team leaders.
He's a great talent but long term it can't work with this type of attitude. The inmates can't run the asylum.
The ONLY thing that makes me feel a little better about Beckham is that I can GUARANTEE you that a significant portion of the interview process for HC was about how Beckham would be handled moving forward, and at least the HC and Management are all on the same page right now.
First off, this appears to be a tongue-in-cheek comment - not a demand.
Secondly, it really seems like a lot of posters will hinge on everything he says to turn it against him, even twisting meanings to illustrate he's a bad teammate and lazy.
We get that some of you don't like the guy, but you don't have to keep bringing the ignorance to keep trashing the guy.
If we're going to say preseason with a new offense and possibly a new quarterback from the future doesn't matter, then where does it end?
I don't blame Beckham for wanting to get paid. It's just amusing to see in light of being fed a bullshit storyline about how he's so much more driven than everyone else, and is amusing to now see a preseason rationalized away as unneeded.
Fuck it, let's not practice either.
Preseason games are often vanilla play calling and most of the impact of installing the new offense will be done in practice.
Where did he say he was sitting out because he wanted to get paid? The conversation was clearly about the injury.
for the love of god just trade the kid already. Every single one of these stupid little nudges decreases his value. He would have been worth a RG3 type haul last offseason when I was BEGGING the Giants to trade him. A 3-13 season later and where are we?
Beckham is a commodity and if he was a stock we would be sitting here watching it plummet in value while ignoring the trend in blind hope that it would rebound.
All time greats don't do this type of stuff. 100 million dollar contract players don't do this. Those need to be team leaders.
He's a great talent but long term it can't work with this type of attitude. The inmates can't run the asylum.
The ONLY thing that makes me feel a little better about Beckham is that I can GUARANTEE you that a significant portion of the interview process for HC was about how Beckham would be handled moving forward, and at least the HC and Management are all on the same page right now.
I'd wager your yearly salary that a significant portion of the HC interview was about gameplan startegy, assistant coaches and the QB position more than it was handling Beckham, but narrative.
for the love of god just trade the kid already. Every single one of these stupid little nudges decreases his value. He would have been worth a RG3 type haul last offseason when I was BEGGING the Giants to trade him. A 3-13 season later and where are we?
Beckham is a commodity and if he was a stock we would be sitting here watching it plummet in value while ignoring the trend in blind hope that it would rebound.
All time greats don't do this type of stuff. 100 million dollar contract players don't do this. Those need to be team leaders.
He's a great talent but long term it can't work with this type of attitude. The inmates can't run the asylum.
The ONLY thing that makes me feel a little better about Beckham is that I can GUARANTEE you that a significant portion of the interview process for HC was about how Beckham would be handled moving forward, and at least the HC and Management are all on the same page right now.
I'd wager your yearly salary that a significant portion of the HC interview was about gameplan startegy, assistant coaches and the QB position more than it was handling Beckham, but narrative.
of many top of the line players in the NFL. Over the years many have done this :Strahan. Plaxico etc. They do not want to participate unless it is in their contract and mandatory. Thats why ELI is such a gift. Trading a player (LBJ) with this skill set can be cutting your nose off to save your face. We have a supposed talented front office NOW That's why it is important to draft and acquire people who want to play FB, not selfish prima donnas. Talent evaluation and attitude are equally important.
for the love of god just trade the kid already. Every single one of these stupid little nudges decreases his value. He would have been worth a RG3 type haul last offseason when I was BEGGING the Giants to trade him. A 3-13 season later and where are we?
Beckham is a commodity and if he was a stock we would be sitting here watching it plummet in value while ignoring the trend in blind hope that it would rebound.
All time greats don't do this type of stuff. 100 million dollar contract players don't do this. Those need to be team leaders.
He's a great talent but long term it can't work with this type of attitude. The inmates can't run the asylum.
The ONLY thing that makes me feel a little better about Beckham is that I can GUARANTEE you that a significant portion of the interview process for HC was about how Beckham would be handled moving forward, and at least the HC and Management are all on the same page right now.
I'd wager your yearly salary that a significant portion of the HC interview was about gameplan startegy, assistant coaches and the QB position more than it was handling Beckham, but narrative.
You're right. It probably didn't even come up /s
There's a difference between it being brought up and being a significant part of the interview. I guess it's too much to expect someone who specializes in limericks to understand the English language.
I tend to lean on the sides (but not nearly the extreme) of the Terps of the world when it comes to OBJ, but I can’t blame him one tiny bit for not wanting to play a snap in preseason. He has an incredible amount of money to potentially lose if he suffers major injury, and he already lost last season to an injury that originally happened in a preseason game.
To be honest, he’d be out of his mind to play any snaps that don’t directly contribute to meaningful wins and losses without a new contract at this point.
I've long said (on podcasts, articles) that the Beckham stuff is overblown. I also think some of his comments/actions were deliberate in order to increase attention and thereby increase his marketability (laughing his ass off on the way to the bank).
That all said, whether your love or hate him or are somewhere in between, Odell does bring this upon himself. He knows he is under a microscope. What would have been the smart thing to do regarding that original question to him? Ignore it.
First off, this appears to be a tongue-in-cheek comment - not a demand.
Secondly, it really seems like a lot of posters will hinge on everything he says to turn it against him, even twisting meanings to illustrate he's a bad teammate and lazy.
We get that some of you don't like the guy, but you don't have to keep bringing the ignorance to keep trashing the guy.
Thank you.
Holy taking things out of context Batman.
So many of you guys just can’t wait to nail this guy for everything. His hair, his celebrations, punching a wall, his flamboyant nature, now tweeting the word zero in response to a question about preseason snaps.
Guess what, no star player wants to play preseason snaps. Giants legend Michael Strahan certainly didn’t like to. Let’s kill him for being honest. Fact remains he has not said he’s holding out, and not said he won’t play in preseason. Some of you are just guilty of jumping to conclusions.
Should he have kept the thought to himself. Absolutely. Nothing good comes of this comment, as this board is proving. I don’t like twitter much either, but you aren’t going to stop young athletes from using it.
I get it, some of you just plain don’t like OBJ. Some of you even think he is a cancer on the team. A claim widely disputed by just about any current NYG worth hearing from. OBJ is not the problem with this team. Bobby Hart was the problem with this team. Flowers is the problem with this team. Eli Apple is the problem with this team. Poor LB play is the problem with this team. No pass rush is the problem with this team. No OL is the problem with this team. Pugh and Richburg always being hurt is the problem with this team. McAdoo, Reese, and Ross were the problem with this team. OBJ is one of the few things that looks like a solution. Heck, right now he’s even more of a solution than the best QB in franchise history is. (And I love Eli)
I’m sorry OBJ is not Larry Fitzgerald or Wayne Chrebet. I’d be the first to say he hasn’t been blameless and at times a distraction. But as Snacks said, how much of it is also due to the fact the camera follows him. He needs to be more aware of that and chose his words and actions carefully. He needs some more maturity. But he shows up every play, works hard, and is a good teammate. There are plenty of players the Giants need to move on from for various well documented and tangible reasons. OBJ is not in that category.
I've long said (on podcasts, articles) that the Beckham stuff is overblown. I also think some of his comments/actions were deliberate in order to increase attention and thereby increase his marketability (laughing his ass off on the way to the bank).
That all said, whether your love or hate him or are somewhere in between, Odell does bring this upon himself. He knows he is under a microscope. What would have been the smart thing to do regarding that original question to him? Ignore it.
All he tweeted was the number 0 to a fan. It could have been in jest. Why should have to walk on egg shells because the media blows things out of proportion?
I've long said (on podcasts, articles) that the Beckham stuff is overblown. I also think some of his comments/actions were deliberate in order to increase attention and thereby increase his marketability (laughing his ass off on the way to the bank).
That all said, whether your love or hate him or are somewhere in between, Odell does bring this upon himself. He knows he is under a microscope. What would have been the smart thing to do regarding that original question to him? Ignore it.
Eric, 100% right. If anything OBJ needs to pay someone to run his social media. Can Mara and Gettleman make that a clause in the contract?
What I do know is that the Daily News is already queuing up the "Odell is a bastard for not playing in the preseason" articles with daily countdown to each and every preseason game.
How did he do in 2014 when he didn’t practice?
Just spitballing here, but probably if and when it actually becomes those things, rather than some random tweet that likely meant very little.
hardly a demand and more likely than not half serious...move along
Yes our offense was really bad all year, but it was especially awful the first few weeks because our WR were rusty from barely playing in the preseason. It took until the Eagles game before Eli and WRs were in the same page.
I mean, he didn’t say anything about practice. Hard not to blame him, like Gidie said...one play basically cost him a season.
Still, I hope he doesn't play. I don't want to see him on the field at all until week 1.
Yes our offense was really bad all year, but it was especially awful the first few weeks because our WR were rusty from barely playing in the preseason. It took until the Eagles game before Eli and WRs were in the same page.
Still, I hope he doesn't play. I don't want to see him on the field at all until week 1.
If he doesn’t get his new contract he wants, he might hold out so you might get your wish.
Keep your thoughts on this subject between you and the team Odell.
Didn't Eli barely play in the preseason? So what's the problem with Odell not playing when the preseason cost him his season?
Keep your thoughts on this subject between you and the team Odell.
Or everything Odell says and does could not be made into an outrage story by Giants media and fans.
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I'd say the same about you. There are four or five white knights on this board that protect this clown from anyone who would besmirch his honor.
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And right on queue.
I'd say the same about you. There are four or five white knights on this board that protect this clown from anyone who would besmirch his honor.
What's the problem with not wanting to play preseason and get hurt? Was Eli not on a "pitch count" last season?
Please explain what the issue is with this and how preseason correlates with winning.
Social media sucks!
I don't blame Beckham for wanting to get paid. It's just amusing to see in light of being fed a bullshit storyline about how he's so much more driven than everyone else, and is amusing to now see a preseason rationalized away as unneeded.
Fuck it, let's not practice either.
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And right on queue.
I'd say the same about you. There are four or five white knights on this board that protect this clown from anyone who would besmirch his honor.
I’m not on either side, but his 2017 season was ruined by a borderline cheap shot. It’s understanable he doesn’t want to play in meaningless games. I don’t think you have to question his desire to win football games because of that statement.
This roster has a lot of holes in it.
He didn’t play much last preseason and didn’t skip a beat. I know that doesn’t jive with your scathing of him, but it’s the reality of how good he is and how he will adapt well in any offense. I’d worry about the other players who aren’t as good and bitch about them.
Beckham is a commodity and if he was a stock we would be sitting here watching it plummet in value while ignoring the trend in blind hope that it would rebound.
All time greats don't do this type of stuff. 100 million dollar contract players don't do this. Those need to be team leaders.
He's a great talent but long term it can't work with this type of attitude. The inmates can't run the asylum.
The ONLY thing that makes me feel a little better about Beckham is that I can GUARANTEE you that a significant portion of the interview process for HC was about how Beckham would be handled moving forward, and at least the HC and Management are all on the same page right now.
First off, this appears to be a tongue-in-cheek comment - not a demand.
Secondly, it really seems like a lot of posters will hinge on everything he says to turn it against him, even twisting meanings to illustrate he's a bad teammate and lazy.
We get that some of you don't like the guy, but you don't have to keep bringing the ignorance to keep trashing the guy.
I don't blame Beckham for wanting to get paid. It's just amusing to see in light of being fed a bullshit storyline about how he's so much more driven than everyone else, and is amusing to now see a preseason rationalized away as unneeded.
Fuck it, let's not practice either.
Preseason games are often vanilla play calling and most of the impact of installing the new offense will be done in practice.
Where did he say he was sitting out because he wanted to get paid? The conversation was clearly about the injury.
Beckham is a commodity and if he was a stock we would be sitting here watching it plummet in value while ignoring the trend in blind hope that it would rebound.
All time greats don't do this type of stuff. 100 million dollar contract players don't do this. Those need to be team leaders.
He's a great talent but long term it can't work with this type of attitude. The inmates can't run the asylum.
The ONLY thing that makes me feel a little better about Beckham is that I can GUARANTEE you that a significant portion of the interview process for HC was about how Beckham would be handled moving forward, and at least the HC and Management are all on the same page right now.
I'd wager your yearly salary that a significant portion of the HC interview was about gameplan startegy, assistant coaches and the QB position more than it was handling Beckham, but narrative.
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for the love of god just trade the kid already. Every single one of these stupid little nudges decreases his value. He would have been worth a RG3 type haul last offseason when I was BEGGING the Giants to trade him. A 3-13 season later and where are we?
Beckham is a commodity and if he was a stock we would be sitting here watching it plummet in value while ignoring the trend in blind hope that it would rebound.
All time greats don't do this type of stuff. 100 million dollar contract players don't do this. Those need to be team leaders.
He's a great talent but long term it can't work with this type of attitude. The inmates can't run the asylum.
The ONLY thing that makes me feel a little better about Beckham is that I can GUARANTEE you that a significant portion of the interview process for HC was about how Beckham would be handled moving forward, and at least the HC and Management are all on the same page right now.
I'd wager your yearly salary that a significant portion of the HC interview was about gameplan startegy, assistant coaches and the QB position more than it was handling Beckham, but narrative.
You're right. It probably didn't even come up /s
Some great hot takes in this thread.
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for the love of god just trade the kid already. Every single one of these stupid little nudges decreases his value. He would have been worth a RG3 type haul last offseason when I was BEGGING the Giants to trade him. A 3-13 season later and where are we?
Beckham is a commodity and if he was a stock we would be sitting here watching it plummet in value while ignoring the trend in blind hope that it would rebound.
All time greats don't do this type of stuff. 100 million dollar contract players don't do this. Those need to be team leaders.
He's a great talent but long term it can't work with this type of attitude. The inmates can't run the asylum.
The ONLY thing that makes me feel a little better about Beckham is that I can GUARANTEE you that a significant portion of the interview process for HC was about how Beckham would be handled moving forward, and at least the HC and Management are all on the same page right now.
I'd wager your yearly salary that a significant portion of the HC interview was about gameplan startegy, assistant coaches and the QB position more than it was handling Beckham, but narrative.
You're right. It probably didn't even come up /s
There's a difference between it being brought up and being a significant part of the interview. I guess it's too much to expect someone who specializes in limericks to understand the English language.
The issue is there isn’t one, unless you hate a player who dances.
To be honest, he’d be out of his mind to play any snaps that don’t directly contribute to meaningful wins and losses without a new contract at this point.
That all said, whether your love or hate him or are somewhere in between, Odell does bring this upon himself. He knows he is under a microscope. What would have been the smart thing to do regarding that original question to him? Ignore it.
First off, this appears to be a tongue-in-cheek comment - not a demand.
Secondly, it really seems like a lot of posters will hinge on everything he says to turn it against him, even twisting meanings to illustrate he's a bad teammate and lazy.
We get that some of you don't like the guy, but you don't have to keep bringing the ignorance to keep trashing the guy.
Thank you.
Holy taking things out of context Batman.
So many of you guys just can’t wait to nail this guy for everything. His hair, his celebrations, punching a wall, his flamboyant nature, now tweeting the word zero in response to a question about preseason snaps.
Guess what, no star player wants to play preseason snaps. Giants legend Michael Strahan certainly didn’t like to. Let’s kill him for being honest. Fact remains he has not said he’s holding out, and not said he won’t play in preseason. Some of you are just guilty of jumping to conclusions.
Should he have kept the thought to himself. Absolutely. Nothing good comes of this comment, as this board is proving. I don’t like twitter much either, but you aren’t going to stop young athletes from using it.
I get it, some of you just plain don’t like OBJ. Some of you even think he is a cancer on the team. A claim widely disputed by just about any current NYG worth hearing from. OBJ is not the problem with this team. Bobby Hart was the problem with this team. Flowers is the problem with this team. Eli Apple is the problem with this team. Poor LB play is the problem with this team. No pass rush is the problem with this team. No OL is the problem with this team. Pugh and Richburg always being hurt is the problem with this team. McAdoo, Reese, and Ross were the problem with this team. OBJ is one of the few things that looks like a solution. Heck, right now he’s even more of a solution than the best QB in franchise history is. (And I love Eli)
I’m sorry OBJ is not Larry Fitzgerald or Wayne Chrebet. I’d be the first to say he hasn’t been blameless and at times a distraction. But as Snacks said, how much of it is also due to the fact the camera follows him. He needs to be more aware of that and chose his words and actions carefully. He needs some more maturity. But he shows up every play, works hard, and is a good teammate. There are plenty of players the Giants need to move on from for various well documented and tangible reasons. OBJ is not in that category.
That all said, whether your love or hate him or are somewhere in between, Odell does bring this upon himself. He knows he is under a microscope. What would have been the smart thing to do regarding that original question to him? Ignore it.
All he tweeted was the number 0 to a fan. It could have been in jest. Why should have to walk on egg shells because the media blows things out of proportion?
That all said, whether your love or hate him or are somewhere in between, Odell does bring this upon himself. He knows he is under a microscope. What would have been the smart thing to do regarding that original question to him? Ignore it.
Eric, 100% right. If anything OBJ needs to pay someone to run his social media. Can Mara and Gettleman make that a clause in the contract?