With the exception of Rodney Hampton, the team has been abysmal at drafting running backs in the first round. Whether it be the supporting cast or the quality of the player, who knows. The number 2 pick is completely wrong to draft a Running Back.
Wide Receivers, CB's/ Qb's/Linebackers/Pass Rushing lineman (not run blockers) or sure fire LT's belong in that slot, not a running back. Unfortunately there is none of this in this draft .
If we stay at 2, we go with Baker Mayfield, if not, trade down and grab a pick for next year and get the best LT in this draft. A couple of years ago when Aaron Rogers was tearing it up with the best OL in the league, not a single guy on his line was drafted before the 4th round. Guards can be had later on.
Maybe round 2 we go with the Ohio State Center if he lasts, pretty sure he's the best one in the draft
IMO, Giuce from LSU is the best RB in this draft, he can be had later down the road, I like the edge he has, including playing in the ultra athletic SEC. Barkley doesn't have the same edge.
We have a very capable WR Corp in Odell and Sterling, Nice Tight End from last year. If Eli is provided a upgrade in protection and a decent running game, the team will improve dramatically
1982 Butch Woolfolk: C
1985 George Adams-: D
1990: Rodney Hampton: B+
1991: Jarrod Bunch: F
1995: Tyrone Wheatley: D
2000: Ron Dayne: D
2012: David Wilson: F
There will be talented RBs in this draft after Rd 2. Trade back and go best player available from there. Walk away with 9 new players and maybe a #1 for 2019. Gentlemen is smart enough to understand this sets us up for a much better 5-6 yrs than a QB right now.
I love it when people use ONE instance where drafting a RB in round 7 worked out, but don't bother including all the failed attempts before and after that one. Narrative much?
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is the most overrated back in Giants' history.
He averaged 3.8 yards per carry.
Bradshaw averaged 4.6. Jacobs averaged 4.5.
Hampton only forced his way up onto the list of leading running backs because they gave him the ball so much.
Did you ever actually watch him? Because when I first saw him he was the most electrifying Giants back I had ever seen. I could be wrong but I think I remember seeing his very first carry in a preseason game which was a long run for a TD. He was very smooth and elegant. Overshadowed by Emmitt Smith, who I think might have been taken in the same draft. With time however, and I’m not sure why but I think it was dictated by the needs of the offense, Hampton bulked up, put on significant weight, and became more of a workhorse back. Led to the lowered ypc that you cite.
He was my favorite player at the time. Unassuming and professional. I can’t remember a single episode of histrionics. Every touchdown he scored, he quietly handed the ball to the ref and went about his business.
Yup, and I'll take some flack for this but Rodney Hampton was every bit as good as Emmitt Smith. He just didn't take care of himself very well (out of shape, lazy) and didn't play behind an all-world offensive line like Emmitt did.
Maybe lazy isn't the right word, but if I recall correctly - he didn't put a lot of effort into training camp and didn't stay in very good shape over the offseason.
Maybe just after the draft, you could say he went earlier than he should, but the guy was an essential part of the Panthers offense. He basically did or exceeded in his rookie year what people expected Shane Vareen to do when he came here. 80 receptions and over 1000 yards shows he was a bad pick?
I really think people offer up some fucked up logic to defend shitty viewpoints.
Without McCaffery, the Panthers likely don't make the playoffs because they had no receiving threat out of the backfield. He basically allowed them to trade Kelvin Benjamin without suffering too much of a dropoff.
If anyone uses their eyes to watch him play and comes away thinking he wasn't worthy of a first round selection, they either don't understand much about what they see or they have a stance they are trying to stand pat on even though the evidence shows otherwise.
Maybe just after the draft, you could say he went earlier than he should, but the guy was an essential part of the Panthers offense. He basically did or exceeded in his rookie year what people expected Shane Vareen to do when he came here. 80 receptions and over 1000 yards shows he was a bad pick?
I really think people offer up some fucked up logic to defend shitty viewpoints.
Without McCaffery, the Panthers likely don't make the playoffs because they had no receiving threat out of the backfield. He basically allowed them to trade Kelvin Benjamin without suffering too much of a dropoff.
If anyone uses their eyes to watch him play and comes away thinking he wasn't worthy of a first round selection, they either don't understand much about what they see or they have a stance they are trying to stand pat on even though the evidence shows otherwise.
Maybe you should learn the difference between bad player and bad pick? Ever think of that?
Not sure what the stats are, however, I'd be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that Dalvin Cook (2nd Round) or Kareem Hunt (3rd Round) are more then capable to match CM's numbers in that offense.
It was a terrible pick considering they could've drafted a playmaker on the other side of the ball, maybe solidify the O-Line?
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that they forget what the actual point of the game is.
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perception that McCaffery was a bad pick?
Maybe just after the draft, you could say he went earlier than he should, but the guy was an essential part of the Panthers offense. He basically did or exceeded in his rookie year what people expected Shane Vareen to do when he came here. 80 receptions and over 1000 yards shows he was a bad pick?
I really think people offer up some fucked up logic to defend shitty viewpoints.
Without McCaffery, the Panthers likely don't make the playoffs because they had no receiving threat out of the backfield. He basically allowed them to trade Kelvin Benjamin without suffering too much of a dropoff.
If anyone uses their eyes to watch him play and comes away thinking he wasn't worthy of a first round selection, they either don't understand much about what they see or they have a stance they are trying to stand pat on even though the evidence shows otherwise.
Maybe you should learn the difference between bad player and bad pick? Ever think of that?
Not sure what the stats are, however, I'd be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that Dalvin Cook (2nd Round) or Kareem Hunt (3rd Round) are more then capable to match CM's numbers in that offense.
It was a terrible pick considering they could've drafted a playmaker on the other side of the ball, maybe solidify the O-Line?
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I hate the off-season...
They used the pick on a playmaker on a side of the ball they needed help on. Their D was just fine. With Stewart getting older and no 3rd down option, they needed a RB for the future. Not only did they get that - he delivered.
How is a guy who made the team better at a position of need and whose production was among the best of any player drafted called a "terrible pick".
The absence of logic here is mind-numbing. Fucking ponderous one late DJ would say.
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It was a terrible pick considering they could've drafted a playmaker on the other side of the ball, maybe solidify the O-Line?
They used the pick on a playmaker on a side of the ball they needed help on. Their D was just fine. With Stewart getting older and no 3rd down option, they needed a RB for the future. Not only did they get that - he delivered.
How is a guy who made the team better at a position of need and whose production was among the best of any player drafted called a "terrible pick".
The absence of logic here is mind-numbing. Fucking ponderous one late DJ would say.
I don't think the sheer brilliance of this post is getting enough attention.
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It was a terrible pick considering they could've drafted a playmaker on the other side of the ball, maybe solidify the O-Line?
They used the pick on a playmaker on a side of the ball they needed help on. Their D was just fine. With Stewart getting older and no 3rd down option, they needed a RB for the future. Not only did they get that - he delivered.
How is a guy who made the team better at a position of need and whose production was among the best of any player drafted called a "terrible pick".
The absence of logic here is mind-numbing. Fucking ponderous one late DJ would say.
Why draft a guy like Marshon Lattimore or Malik Hooker when you need help in your defensive backfield, definitely a position of need for Carolina. Two of the better athletes in the draft.
Lets go out and get a guy who's good, however, equal talent could've been found in the second round. That's your logic
Top safeties and corners are a lot harder to find then running backs.
The more I read your drivel, it's utterly idiotic .
It's no surprise that the more you read my "drivel" it is "idiotic". It's because you consistently have terrible posts and then stand by them.
The Panthers made a pick that helped them overcome a weak spot and was a main driver in having them get to the postseason. Keep reading that "drivel" and tell me exactly how that scenario results in a "terrible pick"
It's no surprise that the more you read my "drivel" it is "idiotic". It's because you consistently have terrible posts and then stand by them.
The Panthers made a pick that helped them overcome a weak spot and was a main driver in having them get to the postseason. Keep reading that "drivel" and tell me exactly how that scenario results in a "terrible pick"
I stand by my point
I'm thinking because it's logic based and makes entirely too much sense for self absorbed know it alls.
Just move on and give your expert opinion on other various topics, Football isn't your strong point
That's rich and utterly deficient in self awareness from a guy who posted "Trust me. I'm right" above.
Awesome stuff!
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and makes entirely too much sense for self absorbed know it alls.
That's rich and utterly deficient in self awareness from a guy who posted "Trust me. I'm right" above.
Awesome stuff!
Point stands, anyone with a 3rd grade education can see that to draft a RB with the second pick in this draft is idiotic. Anyone but you that is
Show me one post where I've talked about picking a RB at #2.
All of my posts on this thread have been directed at the concept that McCaffery was a "terrible pick". It would be nice if your brilliant fucking mind could comprehend who is saying what.
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what a crock of shit.
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and makes entirely too much sense for self absorbed know it alls.
That's rich and utterly deficient in self awareness from a guy who posted "Trust me. I'm right" above.
Awesome stuff!
Point stands, anyone with a 3rd grade education can see that to draft a RB with the second pick in this draft is idiotic. Anyone but you that is
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He was good enough to get reps in the first game....and after one lousy fumble, he was in the doghouse basically the rest of the year....one of TC's mistakes that year....
You can tell the post was foolish when he gave Wilson an F. Even with the horrible Oline, Wilson somehow managed a career (1.5 years) YPC of 4.4. Yeah. Go back and look at the great RBs. How many of them managed a 4.4 or better? Very few indeed. Once a poster crosses the line into stupidity, you know they have an agenda and it stinks.
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Point stands, anyone with a 3rd grade education can see that to draft a RB with the second pick in this draft is idiotic. Anyone but you that is
Show me one post where I've talked about picking a RB at #2.
All of my posts on this thread have been directed at the concept that McCaffery was a "terrible pick". It would be nice if your brilliant fucking mind could comprehend who is saying what.
Hate to bust your bubble, however, before you pat yourself on the back too hard, the premise of the entire thread was based on NOT taking a RB with the 2nd pick. Yes we had a side conversation about CM, yes it was a utterly idiotic pick.
Try and keep your eye on the ball, you can comprehend more then one point at a time
Thanks