“We had a meeting with all the college personnel and all the pro personnel and we sat in there for an hour and a half and James gave us a clinic,” general manager Dave Gettleman told Newsday of the Tuesday gathering, part of the nine days of meetings the Giants have held over the past two weeks to prep for the upcoming roster-building season...
Ultimately, Gettleman said, the Giants aren’t going to be looking for “niche players” who specialize in only the defense they’ll be running. They want guys as multiple as the defense. “You can call it a 3-4, you can call it an under, you can call it an over, you can call it this, you can call it that,” Gettleman said. “But at the end of the day we’re looking for football players.”
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A lot of small LB/Big safety types, and guys of different frames to line up all over the front.
Many football people have been trying to scream this sentiment at the fan base that they need to get the 80s 3-4 mindset out of their imagination when analyzing Bettcher’s defense.
A lot of small LB/Big safety types, and guys of different frames to line up all over the front.
Many football people have been trying to scream this sentiment at the fan base that they need to get the 80s 3-4 mindset out of their imagination when analyzing Bettcher’s defense.
This. I'd imagine that the base defense for many teams is a sub nickle or even dime package.
I'd love it.
Thank-you.
+1.
As I have said before, the are guys that play football, and there are guys that are football players.
We've all had our fill of the former.
Football players who make plays.
It seems that over the years we have been both drafting players and signing players in free agency that often square pegs in round holes.
Its good to hear that the coaches seem to be more of the process saying " these are the types of players we are looking for.. now go find these guys..
For years to me it felt like.. Hey we went out and scouted and drafted a bunch of guys.. Think you can use them?
Usually the first and second round guys tended to work out (although there were abject failures like Marvin Austin)
But this approach REALLY reared its ugly head in rounds 3-4.. guys who should be quality back ups, situational players and special teamers.. The Giants often missed BADLY.. especially in round 3 which by and large has been a total disaster..
Im glad there seems to be a cohesive effort to get EVERYONE on the same page.
Many football people have been trying to scream this sentiment at the fan base that they need to get the 80s 3-4 mindset out of their imagination when analyzing Bettcher’s defense.
Easier said than done.
Dallas - 26 rushes for 99 yds
Philly - 33 rushes for 122 yds
Wash - 20 rushes for 31 yds
You can have a true 4/3 DE - size wise who is capable of rushing from anywhere and can flow in space intuitively like a great LB. Good type of tweener.
An excellent zone pass defending safety who has the toughness, technique and some size to play ILB, (assuming a big, stout front 3). Good type of tweener.
It's the right types and knowing what -not- to require of each ...and how to cover that with the other ten.
You can have a true 4/3 DE - size wise who is capable of rushing from anywhere and can flow in space intuitively like a great LB. Good type of tweener.
An excellent zone pass defending safety who has the toughness, technique and some size to play ILB, (assuming a big, stout front 3). Good type of tweener.
It's the right types and knowing what -not- to require of each ...and how to cover that with the other ten.
Very good points. You definitely have to have the right types to be able to succeed. My initial thoughts on tweeners were strictly focused on LBs; which gave me some pause given the quality of Olines we face in the division. Nevertheless, Zona did hold up well at least in the run game against them last year.
It will be interesting to see the types of defenders in the front seven they bring in and how "multiple" they will be at least initially. The transition from 4-3 to 3-4 takes a year or two to get the right type of players.
That's what I mean by type. One might say a LB 'can cover' ( which could mean 'run with' or zone) but even then, is the measurement as serious as it would be for a safety?
Or do they just mean 'quick and fast ..for a lb ' .
So. I do sound overly vague but it is specifics we seek. Tweener is fine if it's specific.
Another example is in pass rush. With the 40+lb increase in offensive lineman average weight since the 1980s ...is the 1980 240lb olb really a pass rush model for today?
Or do we need larger olbs such as 260+lbs? Yet. Obviously that's not your safety. If it is that's first overall.pick.
So the assignments may not be the same either. That's what I.mean by types.
LB Lorenzo Carter from Georgia. He is going to be a force in the NFL. He will be a better pro than he is college player.
6'6, 245lbs. Incredible athlete. He is very Leonard Floyd-like, but IMO he is a better football player. He gets overshadowed at bit due to all of the talent at UGA, but he has a huge impact.
Athletic enough to cover the slot. He can rush off the edge, and he is very sound in setting the edge.
Hope he is the Giants 3rd round pick.