I think this is an important article on Gettleman mindset.
i think the whole article is worth reading.
But a few key points;
He looks to observe people and their personalities from a distance
He is not into “height-weight-speed silliness”
He has not made up his mind on the 2 pick and wont until all info is in. “Respect the process”
Focused on production and intelligence
Not interested in “timed speed” but “playing speed” and does look at measurable but to gauge athletic ability and explosion.
Very interested in player interviews and will ask “”football questions”. Hw much football do they know?
Free agency “sets up” the draft so you can hopefully take BPA each pick.
He is interested in the throwing mechanics of QBs.
Interesting piece on his mindset considering he is running the draft this year.
Gettleman Has Different Philosophy - (
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And I am excited to see what shurmur will do as well. Shurmur has shown so much versatility to change offensive philosophies with success as well as adapt to what the players can do instead of trying to force a square peg in a round hole.
Ultimately the results will speak for themselves, but I really believe we have the right guys with the right experience and mindset to change things for the better.
I would add on to your point on Shurmur is the article a few posts below on Bettcher and how both O & D will be about utilizing our players skill sets. Not fitting square pegs into round holes. I hear creativity & flexability. Its been a long time since those words were used to describe the Giants.
Gettlemen is saying all the right things and I am real excited for the reconstruction of this team.
Personally, I do think height/weight is not as important as it once was in this sport. I think guys are so much stronger and nutritionally more adept that men that would have been considered too small for certain positions 30 years ago are now more than capable of holding them down.
That means guys like Norwell, Nelson, Hernandez, Orlando Brown, Williams, McGlinchey, and Price make sense.
Guys like Isaiah Wynn, James Daniels, Josh Sitton and even Pugh and Richburg don't really fit.
Personally, I do think height/weight is not as important as it once was in this sport. I think guys are so much stronger and nutritionally more adept that men that would have been considered too small for certain positions 30 years ago are now more than capable of holding them down.
I dont think he is dismissing it.. the reality is tht you really cant.. its a factor. I believe what he is saying is that it cannot be the ONLY or deciding factor.. What good is it if you have a guy who has all the height weight speed measurables but who is dumb as a post, doesn't understand the game of football, is hard to coach, and has a bad personality..
you draft Damontre Moore, Marvin Austin, Ramses Barden, Clint Sintim, etc etc
I don't think he dismissed it at all. And his carolina teams were big, fast, and violent.
Hey man in right there with you. Eli gets a third ring.. he is a Hall of Fame shoo in
I'm in.
I'm a big proponent on evaluating the person. I think that can be easily lost in the mix of everything.
There is use for the 40 yard dash, but it is really only WR, TE, RB, DB, and possibly LB depending on scheme. Assuming I am a decision maker And there is a WR I like, but then I see that the CB’s he worked against timed poorly I might reevaluate the game film I have because maybe the WR’s game speed isn’t what I thought initially.
It's fun to watch and I'll always remember Deion blazing that 4.2 in borrowed cleats and walking out of the Combine but the value to professional scouts is limited.
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Marc Ross interview with the #Giants website last March, reminiscing about 2016 NFL Combine: "Eli Apple, was, I mean, he killed it out here on the floor moving around and was kind of one of those 'wow' guys."
When his head was on straight you could see the upside that the scouting staff saw in Eli Apple. Problem is he was a complete headcase and the warning signs were there
If the skills exceed heart and intelligence, you'll likely have a loser no matter how talented the person may be.
Reading this Gettleman piece, I hBe a feeling we will be getting some Jersey guys again
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Marc Ross interview with the #Giants website last March, reminiscing about 2016 NFL Combine: "Eli Apple, was, I mean, he killed it out here on the floor moving around and was kind of one of those 'wow' guys."
When his head was on straight you could see the upside that the scouting staff saw in Eli Apple. Problem is he was a complete headcase and the warning signs were there
Mike, what were "the warning signs" on Apple prior to the 2016 draft?
I just don't recall any huge red flags on the kid,
“The youngest, most immature kid I met in my life,’’ the NFL source told The Post. “But a good kid.’’