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NFT: Rangers news: nash traded to boston

nygiants16 : 2/25/2018 9:18 am
Reported 1st round pick and lindgren, plus "other cap elements" not official pending trade call
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Rangers retaining 50 percent of nash' s salary  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2018 9:19 am : link
Reports are nash has already been told
Trade call done  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2018 9:28 am : link
..
Don’t know much about Lindgren  
Ross : 2/25/2018 9:29 am : link
Anyone with some info on him?
Ryan spooner also in deal  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2018 9:31 am : link
..
We also got  
Ross : 2/25/2018 9:31 am : link
Spooner. Wow...looks like a great deal
Beleskey and 19 2nd also in deal  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2018 9:33 am : link
..
The 2019 pick  
Ross : 2/25/2018 9:37 am : link
Looks like a 7th..not 2nd.

Beleaky isn’t good, imo..but I gues we needed to take him back for cap reasons.
Took back Beleskey and his bad contract  
Kyle in NY : 2/25/2018 9:38 am : link
in order to get more in the deal. Three pretty good pieces in return for a rental.

Spooner is an RFA after the season. Lots of RFAs on the books now
The centerpiece of the deal id obviously the 1st rounder  
Torrag : 2/25/2018 9:40 am : link
Spooner while only 26 has profiled as a JAG to this point and at 5'10 190# soaking wet isn't a physical player. Lindgren was #49 overall and while he's a tough defensive oriented blueliner he also lacks any intimidating size at 6' 200#.

For a playoff rental we did alright that's for sure but the 'players' we got back are no BFD TBH.
RE: The 2019 pick  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2018 9:40 am : link
In comment 13841911 Ross said:
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Looks like a 7th..not 2nd.

Beleaky isn’t good, imo..but I gues we needed to take him back for cap reasons.


Yeah mis typed
Told you last night. Lot of buzz  
Carl in CT : 2/25/2018 9:41 am : link
At the offices. More to come folks.
If we were going to get something for Nash...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/25/2018 9:42 am : link
this is pretty decent.

I wish him luck. One of the more dominant on the puck guys I've seen, especially in person, but finishing hung him up while in NY.
Beleskey's crappy deal runs through 2020  
Torrag : 2/25/2018 9:44 am : link
2018/19- $4M
2019/2020- $3M

He also had an 8 team No Trade list but I believe that expires after this season.
Boston  
Steve in Greenwich : 2/25/2018 9:49 am : link
Retained 50% of Belesky’s contract so his cap number is under 2 mil both seasons.
If McDonough goes next we better get more than this  
Torrag : 2/25/2018 9:50 am : link
He's signed for another year unlike Nash at a very reasonable 4.7M.

It would be a mistake to wait until the Draft to move him if that's what we're going to do. The market could see a glut of D-men with the likes of Carlson among otherspotentially becoming available.
That helps...  
Torrag : 2/25/2018 9:50 am : link
...but we retained 50% of Nash's so...
Toronto  
Carl in CT : 2/25/2018 9:54 am : link
Sniffing about Hank. Nothing eminent.
Trade works for both teams  
Mike in NY : 2/25/2018 9:56 am : link
Nash gives Boston a veteran goal scorer. On the other hand Lindgren is a prospect that probably means more to the Rangers than to the Bruins because the one thing Bruins have been able to assemble are D prospects. Bruins also get to unload Beleskey’s contract. Spooner apparently is the type of player who will excite fans but frustrate coaches according to Bruins fans. Assuming a coach can finally get through to Spooner, the Rangers are the clear winner. Even if one doesn’t, on paper Rangers still win this deal, but this isn’t the type of deal where Boston feels that loss because of their other prospects
RE: That helps...  
MadPlaid : 2/25/2018 9:57 am : link
In comment 13841929 Torrag said:
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...but we retained 50% of Nash's so...

Yes, but Nash's deal ends this year, while Belesky's runs to 2020. So it's not exactly apples to apples
Great trade for the Rangers...  
GFAN52 : 2/25/2018 9:57 am : link
Now if the trade Zuccarello and McDonagh for 1st round picks they are well on their way to a rebuild.
Then take all our firsts  
Carl in CT : 2/25/2018 9:59 am : link
And move up for Dahlin.
As it stands now  
MadPlaid : 2/25/2018 10:01 am : link
The Rangers have two picks in each of the first three rounds of the NHL draft. Not bad
That’s a really nice haul  
bigbluehoya : 2/25/2018 10:02 am : link
Stings a little to see Nash go. Never quite produced at the peak level they expected, but a true pro and a hardworking player. Probably unlikely, but I’d gladly sign him again in the offseason.

Taking back Beleskey signals to me that they aren’t done selling. Taking that contract on the books screams prettt loudly that they aren’t trying to reload quickly and compete next year.
Just saw that  
bigbluehoya : 2/25/2018 10:04 am : link
It’s only 50% of Beleskey. Even better. That’s a very, very nice deal by Gorts.
Third in Holden, 1st for Nash  
Carl in CT : 2/25/2018 10:05 am : link
Where did the other second come? Don’t remember.
RE: Third in Holden, 1st for Nash  
Mike in NY : 2/25/2018 10:06 am : link
In comment 13841944 Carl in CT said:
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Where did the other second come? Don’t remember.


Grabner
RE: If McDonough goes next we better get more than this  
Kyle in NY : 2/25/2018 10:06 am : link
In comment 13841928 Torrag said:
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He's signed for another year unlike Nash at a very reasonable 4.7M.

It would be a mistake to wait until the Draft to move him if that's what we're going to do. The market could see a glut of D-men with the likes of Carlson among otherspotentially becoming available.


Of course they'll get more for McDonagh. Not sure what you expected here. They added three solid assets for a rental. And as much as we like his game and recognize he has been unlucky, it's a rental on pace for about 40 points
Will miss big # 61 ...  
Stufftherun : 2/25/2018 10:16 am : link
despite the criticism he rec’d from fans who expected 40 goals a season at a contract drawn up by another organization. He was a true professional in every sense of the word and was likely hurt by the system he played in and his responsible 2 way game.

As far as what came back this way from a personnel standpoint, not much to get overly excited about, and we can only hope that loading up on draft day will pay off.
'Not sure what you expected here. They added three solid assets...'  
Torrag : 2/25/2018 10:23 am : link
...for a rental'.

Actually they added one solid asset. Possibly two if Lindgren is, maybe...maybe not. Spooner and Beleskey? meh.

But I think we did OK and noted the 1st rounder is the real asset and centerpiece of the deal.
Spooner  
Kyle in NY : 2/25/2018 10:31 am : link
25 points in 39 games this season, had a 49 point season two years ago. As the third piece in the deal, I think that qualifies as solid. And they can always unload him for more assets as well
RE: Spooner  
Mike in NY : 2/25/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 13841966 Kyle in NY said:
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25 points in 39 games this season, had a 49 point season two years ago. As the third piece in the deal, I think that qualifies as solid. And they can always unload him for more assets as well


According to Boston fans the next time Spooner doesn’t avoid contact or give any effort defensively will be his first time. He can put up points on PP and that is about it
Spooners's size and effort to date as a two way player...  
Torrag : 2/25/2018 10:39 am : link
...is the issue and why I don't regard him as much of an 'asset'. He lacks that special something smaller guys must have to really help your club ala Zuccarello.
Fair enough  
Kyle in NY : 2/25/2018 10:41 am : link
but as the third piece in a rental deal, I'm good with it. Boston could very easily go out in round 1 against Toronto and this becomes an early 20s first rounder
1st plus Lindgren  
bigbluehoya : 2/25/2018 10:51 am : link
Is a good haul. Don’t like spooner? Don’t tender him. He’s a RFA.
RE: 'Not sure what you expected here. They added three solid assets...'  
Stufftherun : 2/25/2018 10:52 am : link
In comment 13841960 Torrag said:
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...for a rental'.

Actually they added one solid asset. Possibly two if Lindgren is, maybe...maybe not. Spooner and Beleskey? meh.

But I think we did OK and noted the 1st rounder is the real asset and centerpiece of the deal.


I didn’t say I “expected” anything rather I simply pointed out that aside from the # 1pick, there wasn’t much to get “overly excited” about. Belesky is a dump, Spooner is undersized, and as Mike pointed out below, is lacking in size and is hardly physical, which is something you’d like to see up the middle especially in what is fast becoming a smaller roster. Sure, the game has changed quite a bit but bigger bodies are always ideal for the long grind of an NHL season. Lindgren is a wait and see player with some grit to his game by all accounts but again, it’s a wait and see.
'Spooner...is lacking in size and is hardly physical'...  
Torrag : 2/25/2018 10:57 am : link
...is what I first pointed out in my 9:40 post. So I'm not sure what you're addressing.
Nash had the highest 5v5 G/60 of any player while he was a Ranger.  
BrettNYG10 : 2/25/2018 11:00 am : link
Disappointing playoff performer, although I don't think he gets enough credit for his excellent play in 2015 (2014 is fair game, IMO).

Great Ranger, I'll miss him.

Return looks good. Don't know anything about Lindgren. But Spooner is a really nice piece that I hope they can flip.
RE: 'Spooner...is lacking in size and is hardly physical'...  
Stufftherun : 2/25/2018 11:03 am : link
In comment 13841995 Torrag said:
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...is what I first pointed out in my 9:40 post. So I'm not sure what you're addressing.


Your post immediately below my initial post posed the question, “not sure what YOU expected here” thus I would imagine you were refering to me with the “you”? That’s what I was addressing.
No. That was a quote from Kyle's post...  
Torrag : 2/25/2018 11:06 am : link
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RE: If we were going to get something for Nash...  
djm : 2/25/2018 11:13 am : link
In comment 13841920 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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this is pretty decent.

I wish him luck. One of the more dominant on the puck guys I've seen, especially in person, but finishing hung him up while in NY.


Yup. Nash was a very good player. It's a shame his run here will be defined by a lack of historically great clutch moments but this is how it works in sports. You're defined by those specific, clutch moments in time.
If Nash had scored 2-3 More postseason big goals  
djm : 2/25/2018 11:14 am : link
He'd be a legend here in NYC.
Absolutely  
arniefez : 2/25/2018 11:17 am : link
but he didn't so he's considered exactly what he was. An excellent player who disappointed in the playoffs.
Guys remember  
Carl in CT : 2/25/2018 11:30 am : link
If anyone wants to complain Nash, Grabner & Holden are all over 30. Get what you can now and move on.
Nash defines class act  
Jay in Toronto : 2/25/2018 11:40 am : link
and complete player, IMO

Hopefully he'll come back in a friendly contract to mentor the young guys.
The three guys added are nothing  
5BowlsSoon : 2/25/2018 11:41 am : link
The number one pick is something.

Retaining 50% of Nash’ salary is huge too.

All in all, okay trade, but not better than okay.
I don't think retaining Nash'ss salary is any issue.  
yatqb : 2/25/2018 11:59 am : link
He comes off the books after the season, and we're not gonna need that cap space for any of our trades at the deadline. Indeed, if anything we'll be trading high salary guys in the next two days.

Beleskey's salary is an issue, though.
RE: Absolutely  
djm : 2/25/2018 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13842017 arniefez said:
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but he didn't so he's considered exactly what he was. An excellent player who disappointed in the playoffs.


Disappointed is a strong word but I get it.
Would love to hear  
Jay in Toronto : 2/25/2018 12:34 pm : link
from our favourite Habs fan.
Going  
Giantfootball025 : 2/25/2018 12:41 pm : link
to miss Nasher. Sad to see him go, but he deserves another shot to win the cup. Unfortunately, I can't root for the bruins because 1.) NYR need the higher pick and 2.) I hate Boston.
RE: Would love to hear  
pjcas18 : 2/25/2018 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13842061 Jay in Toronto said:
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from our favourite Habs fan.


Me? LOL? Just getting caught up, my youngest had two games this morning already.

I would be a little disappointed in the Nash trade if I was a Rangers fan, but they got what they wanted, a 1st round pick, a young prospect (lindgren) and a young NHL ready player (spooner).

I'm just not a fan of Spooner (for the Rangers) and the 1st will be a late first.

I like Lindgren a lot though.

Sort of surprised MTL and TOR got together for a trade, but I like the return for Plekanec. He's a legit NHL C and can play PK and win on the dots, but he's not a top 6 player and he's a 35 year old rental.

What I don't like is I read that WPG had a slightly better offer on the table, but Bergevin opted to take into account Plekanec's wishes (he is a 13-year Habs veteran), and keep him in the East.
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