Spooner while only 26 has profiled as a JAG to this point and at 5'10 190# soaking wet isn't a physical player. Lindgren was #49 overall and while he's a tough defensive oriented blueliner he also lacks any intimidating size at 6' 200#.
For a playoff rental we did alright that's for sure but the 'players' we got back are no BFD TBH.
He's signed for another year unlike Nash at a very reasonable 4.7M.
It would be a mistake to wait until the Draft to move him if that's what we're going to do. The market could see a glut of D-men with the likes of Carlson among otherspotentially becoming available.
Nash gives Boston a veteran goal scorer. On the other hand Lindgren is a prospect that probably means more to the Rangers than to the Bruins because the one thing Bruins have been able to assemble are D prospects. Bruins also get to unload Beleskey’s contract. Spooner apparently is the type of player who will excite fans but frustrate coaches according to Bruins fans. Assuming a coach can finally get through to Spooner, the Rangers are the clear winner. Even if one doesn’t, on paper Rangers still win this deal, but this isn’t the type of deal where Boston feels that loss because of their other prospects
Stings a little to see Nash go. Never quite produced at the peak level they expected, but a true pro and a hardworking player. Probably unlikely, but I’d gladly sign him again in the offseason.
Taking back Beleskey signals to me that they aren’t done selling. Taking that contract on the books screams prettt loudly that they aren’t trying to reload quickly and compete next year.
He's signed for another year unlike Nash at a very reasonable 4.7M.
It would be a mistake to wait until the Draft to move him if that's what we're going to do. The market could see a glut of D-men with the likes of Carlson among otherspotentially becoming available.
Of course they'll get more for McDonagh. Not sure what you expected here. They added three solid assets for a rental. And as much as we like his game and recognize he has been unlucky, it's a rental on pace for about 40 points
despite the criticism he rec’d from fans who expected 40 goals a season at a contract drawn up by another organization. He was a true professional in every sense of the word and was likely hurt by the system he played in and his responsible 2 way game.
As far as what came back this way from a personnel standpoint, not much to get overly excited about, and we can only hope that loading up on draft day will pay off.
'Not sure what you expected here. They added three solid assets...' Â
25 points in 39 games this season, had a 49 point season two years ago. As the third piece in the deal, I think that qualifies as solid. And they can always unload him for more assets as well
25 points in 39 games this season, had a 49 point season two years ago. As the third piece in the deal, I think that qualifies as solid. And they can always unload him for more assets as well
According to Boston fans the next time Spooner doesn’t avoid contact or give any effort defensively will be his first time. He can put up points on PP and that is about it
Spooners's size and effort to date as a two way player... Â
...is the issue and why I don't regard him as much of an 'asset'. He lacks that special something smaller guys must have to really help your club ala Zuccarello.
but as the third piece in a rental deal, I'm good with it. Boston could very easily go out in round 1 against Toronto and this becomes an early 20s first rounder
Actually they added one solid asset. Possibly two if Lindgren is, maybe...maybe not. Spooner and Beleskey? meh.
But I think we did OK and noted the 1st rounder is the real asset and centerpiece of the deal.
I didn’t say I “expected” anything rather I simply pointed out that aside from the # 1pick, there wasn’t much to get “overly excited” about. Belesky is a dump, Spooner is undersized, and as Mike pointed out below, is lacking in size and is hardly physical, which is something you’d like to see up the middle especially in what is fast becoming a smaller roster. Sure, the game has changed quite a bit but bigger bodies are always ideal for the long grind of an NHL season. Lindgren is a wait and see player with some grit to his game by all accounts but again, it’s a wait and see.
'Spooner...is lacking in size and is hardly physical'... Â
...is what I first pointed out in my 9:40 post. So I'm not sure what you're addressing.
Your post immediately below my initial post posed the question, “not sure what YOU expected here” thus I would imagine you were refering to me with the “you”? That’s what I was addressing.
I wish him luck. One of the more dominant on the puck guys I've seen, especially in person, but finishing hung him up while in NY.
Yup. Nash was a very good player. It's a shame his run here will be defined by a lack of historically great clutch moments but this is how it works in sports. You're defined by those specific, clutch moments in time.
If Nash had scored 2-3 More postseason big goals Â
He comes off the books after the season, and we're not gonna need that cap space for any of our trades at the deadline. Indeed, if anything we'll be trading high salary guys in the next two days.
to miss Nasher. Sad to see him go, but he deserves another shot to win the cup. Unfortunately, I can't root for the bruins because 1.) NYR need the higher pick and 2.) I hate Boston.
Me? LOL? Just getting caught up, my youngest had two games this morning already.
I would be a little disappointed in the Nash trade if I was a Rangers fan, but they got what they wanted, a 1st round pick, a young prospect (lindgren) and a young NHL ready player (spooner).
I'm just not a fan of Spooner (for the Rangers) and the 1st will be a late first.
I like Lindgren a lot though.
Sort of surprised MTL and TOR got together for a trade, but I like the return for Plekanec. He's a legit NHL C and can play PK and win on the dots, but he's not a top 6 player and he's a 35 year old rental.
What I don't like is I read that WPG had a slightly better offer on the table, but Bergevin opted to take into account Plekanec's wishes (he is a 13-year Habs veteran), and keep him in the East.
Beleaky isn’t good, imo..but I gues we needed to take him back for cap reasons.
Spooner is an RFA after the season. Lots of RFAs on the books now
For a playoff rental we did alright that's for sure but the 'players' we got back are no BFD TBH.
Beleaky isn’t good, imo..but I gues we needed to take him back for cap reasons.
Yeah mis typed
I wish him luck. One of the more dominant on the puck guys I've seen, especially in person, but finishing hung him up while in NY.
2019/2020- $3M
He also had an 8 team No Trade list but I believe that expires after this season.
It would be a mistake to wait until the Draft to move him if that's what we're going to do. The market could see a glut of D-men with the likes of Carlson among otherspotentially becoming available.
Yes, but Nash's deal ends this year, while Belesky's runs to 2020. So it's not exactly apples to apples
Taking back Beleskey signals to me that they aren’t done selling. Taking that contract on the books screams prettt loudly that they aren’t trying to reload quickly and compete next year.
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It would be a mistake to wait until the Draft to move him if that's what we're going to do. The market could see a glut of D-men with the likes of Carlson among otherspotentially becoming available.
Of course they'll get more for McDonagh. Not sure what you expected here. They added three solid assets for a rental. And as much as we like his game and recognize he has been unlucky, it's a rental on pace for about 40 points
As far as what came back this way from a personnel standpoint, not much to get overly excited about, and we can only hope that loading up on draft day will pay off.
Actually they added one solid asset. Possibly two if Lindgren is, maybe...maybe not. Spooner and Beleskey? meh.
But I think we did OK and noted the 1st rounder is the real asset and centerpiece of the deal.
According to Boston fans the next time Spooner doesn’t avoid contact or give any effort defensively will be his first time. He can put up points on PP and that is about it
Actually they added one solid asset. Possibly two if Lindgren is, maybe...maybe not. Spooner and Beleskey? meh.
But I think we did OK and noted the 1st rounder is the real asset and centerpiece of the deal.
I didn’t say I “expected” anything rather I simply pointed out that aside from the # 1pick, there wasn’t much to get “overly excited” about. Belesky is a dump, Spooner is undersized, and as Mike pointed out below, is lacking in size and is hardly physical, which is something you’d like to see up the middle especially in what is fast becoming a smaller roster. Sure, the game has changed quite a bit but bigger bodies are always ideal for the long grind of an NHL season. Lindgren is a wait and see player with some grit to his game by all accounts but again, it’s a wait and see.
Great Ranger, I'll miss him.
Return looks good. Don't know anything about Lindgren. But Spooner is a really nice piece that I hope they can flip.
Your post immediately below my initial post posed the question, “not sure what YOU expected here” thus I would imagine you were refering to me with the “you”? That’s what I was addressing.
I wish him luck. One of the more dominant on the puck guys I've seen, especially in person, but finishing hung him up while in NY.
Yup. Nash was a very good player. It's a shame his run here will be defined by a lack of historically great clutch moments but this is how it works in sports. You're defined by those specific, clutch moments in time.
Hopefully he'll come back in a friendly contract to mentor the young guys.
Retaining 50% of Nash’ salary is huge too.
All in all, okay trade, but not better than okay.
Beleskey's salary is an issue, though.
Disappointed is a strong word but I get it.
Me? LOL? Just getting caught up, my youngest had two games this morning already.
I would be a little disappointed in the Nash trade if I was a Rangers fan, but they got what they wanted, a 1st round pick, a young prospect (lindgren) and a young NHL ready player (spooner).
I'm just not a fan of Spooner (for the Rangers) and the 1st will be a late first.
I like Lindgren a lot though.
Sort of surprised MTL and TOR got together for a trade, but I like the return for Plekanec. He's a legit NHL C and can play PK and win on the dots, but he's not a top 6 player and he's a 35 year old rental.
What I don't like is I read that WPG had a slightly better offer on the table, but Bergevin opted to take into account Plekanec's wishes (he is a 13-year Habs veteran), and keep him in the East.