Dilfer feels UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen would be the most optimal fit for the Giants if general manager Dave Gettleman wanted to go that route in Round 1, but doesn’t necessary agree that New York must select a quarterback.
Rather, Dilfer says, the Giants already their Eli Manning heir on the roster in the form of 2017 third-round pick Davis Webb.
“I think they have their future quarterback,” Dilfer told NJ Advance Media. “Given enough time and given that they have a two-time Super Bowl champion to bridge a couple years to integrate that guy in.
“Giving Davis a year or two more to develop and learn the ropes and kind of establish himself in the locker room and play well in preseason, it helps your team. Now you don’t have to go overpay at the position, or draft and roll the dice.”
Dilfer also believes the Giants are in good shape with Manning, who has already been named the team’s starter in 2018 and potentially beyond.
“I really like the combination of Eli and Davis Webb,” Dilfer said. “I might be on an island there, but I think Eli still has a lot of good stuff in the tank. Especially considering so much of this game now is from the neck up. Eli has plenty of talent, plenty of juice. He just needs more answers to the test. He needs to be able to win the game intellectually as much as physically. I think this system will allow him to do that.”
I agree with Dilfer at this point in time, and I'm in the "Barkley, or trade back if he's gone" camp.
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I'm sure there's lots of practice tape on him, and the Giants know a lot about him that they didn't know a year ago, but it still remains that most of the coaches weren't here last year (two assistants according to Eric's coaching list). the Maras and the scouting dept are still here, but how much contact any of them really had with Webb is unknown.
those who interacted the most with Webb in a football sense are gone. The players are still here.
I think it's a good situation to have. Old regime out, new in....they will give it a completely unbiased look at the kid. I believe what they see in Webb is pivotal to the future of the offense....
There are just so many variables it's that it's fun to discuss, but nobody knows except DG and his staff and we will all learn on draft day what they were thinking on the current roster....
Now I have softened my stance quite a bit. Darnold really threw me off by not throwing at the combine and the rumors of his interviews being not great. Yes I know Eli didnt throw, but he didnt HAVE to throw. He was going to go top 3 no matter what. 4 of these qbs have been rumored as a 1st pick. Combine that with Barkley and theres a fairly solid chance that Darnold falls out of the top 5. Competitors dont let circumstance dictate their destiny.
Conversely, Rosen looked great at the combine, smiling, chatting and looking like he wanted to be there. That and he looked great throwing the ball....even next to Allen.
Mayfield looked ready at both the Senior Bowl and Combine showing great polish, mobility and accuracy.
But we currently have Webb, who is apparently at the facility every day with Eli, jas a big, big arm, is a coach's son and great at breaking down schemes and philosophy. If he is progressing well as we have been led to believe, then having him sit for another year or two behind Eli allows him to soak up even more. When he is ready to play, we will have to make a decision on extending him and can get away with something fairly modest depending on his production.
At this point I am completely spun as to what I want in the draft because there are so many good options. The biggest question would be if Allen is taken first overall, do I want Barkley (Hernandez in the 2nd), Darnold, or try and trade back hoping Nelson is there and praying for Michel in the 2nd.
Should be a fun month and a half.
The supporting cast is more important than the one guy behind center. As great as Eli has been in the past, he will never win another SB or even make a playoff run with the team he had in front of him the past few years. A great O-line could/can mask the flaws of a QB with an above average brain and substandard passing skills (NFL wise).
It would mean keeping 3 QBs again, but that's a real possibility anyway.
I wouldn't disagree with that - I don't think it's a mistake to stick with Eli for another year. What I do think is (at least potentially) a mistake is for fans to bury their collective heads in the sand and deny the possibility that Eli is in decline, even if some of his performance can be explained away by external factors.
I completely agree with all of that. The only reason NYG don’t take a QB is if Gettleman and Shurmer don’t think any of those available are the right choice. I like Davis Weeb, and I’m slightly higher on his potential than most, but fans thinking that NYG are passing on a QB because they have Davis Effing Webb are living in a fantasy land. Regardless of what Giants brass says, there is no way they are pinning their future on Webb.
Rosen last on athleticism??? You have to be kidding me. He might be the slowest, I didn't see their combo times, but the kid was one of the best tennis players in the country as a high schooler. Last time I checked, you need to be pretty athletic to play a game like that, and the footwork you need for tennis in using your body and posture to gain traction, power, and accuracy while hitting a ball is not that foreign from similar skills you need to throw a football, including on the run.
Hey, I agree. I’ve regularly defended Rosen when posters questioned his athleticism, but all of the QBs listed are good athletes. Allen is a freak, 6’5, 230, and ran the 3rd best 40 at the combine. Darnold also tested well, and was a highly regarded point guard in HS. Davis Webb is a plus athlete as well, so it comes down to Rosen and Mayfield, and I give a slight edge to Mayfield (mainly because he ran a bit in college). Either way, there isn’t a lot of daylight between these guys, imo.