Was active from sideline to sideline. I also remember seeing a piece on NFL Network about him. Outstanding citizen and a tremendous "QB" in our middle.
hoping this is the compensation 4th and not their actual 4th
Why? I mean great if it is but we can't expect to get good players for nothing.
because giving up their 4th is considerably better than giving up the compensation 4th... theres a full 32 picks between the two. I like to hope for the best possible deal, that all. The compensation 4th is almost equivalent to their 5th.
He's a right inside backer or the money backer in Bettchers defense. Former safety who can track down RBs. He struggles beating blocks but if he's kept clean he can make plays.
hoping this is the compensation 4th and not their actual 4th
Still getting a great value for a 4th round pick, I might be less excited if we gave up a 3rd. What are the odds of the Giants picking someone that good with their 4th round pick? Especially a guy who is ready to play at a high level immediately.
Otherwise this would be quite the bargain. But I don't know I still think it's a bargain either way. He's a fantastic player and he's only 26, and those cap numbers don't look too bad at all.
This guy is getting paid more than our entire linebacker group last season....cap space just got a little less....down to about 14M.....and we haven't signed an OLman yet....
Trading away two picks this year makes it seem a trade down from 2nd overall is more likely
Why do people keep saying this? They essentially lost one pick, because they did add a player.
The trade has no bearing on what they do with the draft, other than LB is less of a priority.
Because they have now traded away a 4th, 6th, and 7th. I think trading late round picks for a proven linebacker is a good move, but you have to think the GM is going to want more than 5 picks in his first draft. A draft that is extremely important to this franchise. If not trading down from 2nd overall, but maybe trading to accumulate more picks in other spots. It was just a thought.
Sounds like the perfect "money-backer" for Bettcher's 3-4. Very athletic, a playmaker, still young, and cap numbers don't look bad at all. This is a great day!!!!
move. Ogletree has great sideline to sideline speed, and is only 26. And for just the comp four and a six, plus we get a seven next year. Well done DG.
I'm curious to see how much of the guarantees the Rams are eating on this and what this contract now looks like for the Giants.
Pretty much no guarantees left beyond. He has a couple of roster bonuses that we are on the hook for. Basically he's on a 4/39 deal with us and cap hits are 10/10/10/9
this does is change the narrative of "id rather have Hankins than a late 4th round pick". I'd rather have Ogletree than Hankins, especially at a lower cap number and with Hankins replacement now in year 2 and probably better than him in Tomlinson.
Why do people keep saying this? They essentially lost one pick, because they did add a player.
The trade has no bearing on what they do with the draft, other than LB is less of a priority.
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The 4th the Giants are sending to the Rams in the trade is the comp pick.
Excellent catch DG!
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hoping this is the compensation 4th and not their actual 4th
Why? I mean great if it is but we can't expect to get good players for nothing.
because giving up their 4th is considerably better than giving up the compensation 4th... theres a full 32 picks between the two. I like to hope for the best possible deal, that all. The compensation 4th is almost equivalent to their 5th.
Yes I realize that, I said so in my response.
The comp pick...confirmed per Rock.
Ohh no!
Ogletree tackled Odell late, out of bounds and Odell threw the ball at him, starting everything
Great LB.
The low PFF grade is because he suffered in the Rams switch in defensive scheme, which is why they are willing to trade him.
Still getting a great value for a 4th round pick, I might be less excited if we gave up a 3rd. What are the odds of the Giants picking someone that good with their 4th round pick? Especially a guy who is ready to play at a high level immediately.
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The comp pick...confirmed per Rock.
Great. That makes it better
Great LB.
The low PFF grade is because he suffered in the Rams switch in defensive scheme, which is why they are willing to trade him.
They switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4.
How can they just kill the roster bonuses though? Im not an expert on this stuff, but that doesnt make any sense to me.
Ogletree tackled Odell late, out of bounds and Odell threw the ball at him, starting everything
Eh, no big deal. This actually reduces the Giants chance of getting a 15 yard penalty given that they will both wear blue.
Has to be cap related. They will need to pay Donald ridiculous money. Goff, Gurley down the road.
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Trading away two picks this year makes it seem a trade down from 2nd overall is more likely
Why do people keep saying this? They essentially lost one pick, because they did add a player.
The trade has no bearing on what they do with the draft, other than LB is less of a priority.
Because they have now traded away a 4th, 6th, and 7th. I think trading late round picks for a proven linebacker is a good move, but you have to think the GM is going to want more than 5 picks in his first draft. A draft that is extremely important to this franchise. If not trading down from 2nd overall, but maybe trading to accumulate more picks in other spots. It was just a thought.
I'm curious to see how much of the guarantees the Rams are eating on this and what this contract now looks like for the Giants.
BFD.
We got a proven pro bowl caliber player at a position of need...
It looks like someone posted above he costs 3 or 4 million Rams eating the signing bonus?
But what do I know?
My thoughts exactly. You give up some picks with the knowledge that you are looking to move down.
I'm curious to see how much of the guarantees the Rams are eating on this and what this contract now looks like for the Giants.
Pretty much no guarantees left beyond. He has a couple of roster bonuses that we are on the hook for. Basically he's on a 4/39 deal with us and cap hits are 10/10/10/9
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