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Rams trade LB Alec Ogletree to Giants

OdellBeckhamJr : 3/7/2018 3:56 pm
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Smart move...  
bw in dc : 3/7/2018 4:08 pm : link
Draft picks in the middle rounds are overrated when you can grab a legitimate, proven commodity...
RE: Love this trade  
Mike from Ohio : 3/7/2018 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13853659 BigBlueHens said:
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Trading away two picks this year makes it seem a trade down from 2nd overall is more likely


Why do people keep saying this? They essentially lost one pick, because they did add a player.

The trade has no bearing on what they do with the draft, other than LB is less of a priority.
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Steve in Greenwich : 3/7/2018 4:08 pm : link
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The 4th the Giants are sending to the Rams in the trade is the comp pick.
I remember him being a total,pain in the ass when we played the Rams  
Canton : 3/7/2018 4:09 pm : link
Was active from sideline to sideline. I also remember seeing a piece on NFL Network about him. Outstanding citizen and a tremendous "QB" in our middle.

Excellent catch DG!
RE: RE: RE: really  
UConn4523 : 3/7/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13853671 Steve in Greenwich said:
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hoping this is the compensation 4th and not their actual 4th



Why? I mean great if it is but we can't expect to get good players for nothing.


because giving up their 4th is considerably better than giving up the compensation 4th... theres a full 32 picks between the two. I like to hope for the best possible deal, that all. The compensation 4th is almost equivalent to their 5th.


Yes I realize that, I said so in my response.
Which 4  
jeff57 : 3/7/2018 4:09 pm : link
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RE: Which 4  
Josh in the City : 3/7/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13853682 jeff57 said:
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The comp pick...confirmed per Rock.
How does this effect our  
Andy in Boston : 3/7/2018 4:09 pm : link
Cap situation?
LOVE IT!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/7/2018 4:10 pm : link
New era!
Got a bad grade from PFF  
jeff57 : 3/7/2018 4:10 pm : link
For 2017
RE: Got a bad grade from PFF  
UConn4523 : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13853687 jeff57 said:
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For 2017


Ohh no!
Love the move...  
Saos1n : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
Remember, though, he and Odell are what started the sideline brawl when we played the Rams...

Ogletree tackled Odell late, out of bounds and Odell threw the ball at him, starting everything
3-4 is coming  
Rflairr : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
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I like it!  
Sean : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
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This is our money backer  
Peppers : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
He's a right inside backer or the money backer in Bettchers defense. Former safety who can track down RBs. He struggles beating blocks but if he's kept clean he can make plays.
I LOVE THIS  
Emil : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
WOW, big sexy moves

Great LB.

The low PFF grade is because he suffered in the Rams switch in defensive scheme, which is why they are willing to trade him.
RE: really  
dank41 : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13853643 Steve in Greenwich said:
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hoping this is the compensation 4th and not their actual 4th


Still getting a great value for a 4th round pick, I might be less excited if we gave up a 3rd. What are the odds of the Giants picking someone that good with their 4th round pick? Especially a guy who is ready to play at a high level immediately.
I have to imagine it was the earlier 4th rounder  
Knee of Theismann : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
Otherwise this would be quite the bargain. But I don't know I still think it's a bargain either way. He's a fantastic player and he's only 26, and those cap numbers don't look too bad at all.
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jeff57 : 3/7/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13853683 Josh in the City said:
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The comp pick...confirmed per Rock.


Great. That makes it better
RE: I LOVE THIS  
jeff57 : 3/7/2018 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13853694 Emil said:
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WOW, big sexy moves

Great LB.

The low PFF grade is because he suffered in the Rams switch in defensive scheme, which is why they are willing to trade him.


They switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4.
It being the comp pick makes  
Rflairr : 3/7/2018 4:12 pm : link
this a really good trade
I may have posted too soon  
bigbluehoya : 3/7/2018 4:12 pm : link
If this guy is going to be $3M on the cap this year, its an outstanding deal.

How can they just kill the roster bonuses though? Im not an expert on this stuff, but that doesnt make any sense to me.
Why would the  
Pete in MD : 3/7/2018 4:12 pm : link
Rams make this trade?
Love it!  
mfsd : 3/7/2018 4:12 pm : link
The chances of a 4th or 6th round pick turning into an Alec Ogletree caliber player are pretty slim. Major talent upgrade at LB
RE: Love the move...  
Emil : 3/7/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13853690 Saos1n said:
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Remember, though, he and Odell are what started the sideline brawl when we played the Rams...

Ogletree tackled Odell late, out of bounds and Odell threw the ball at him, starting everything


Eh, no big deal. This actually reduces the Giants chance of getting a 15 yard penalty given that they will both wear blue.
LOVE  
Allen in CNJ : 3/7/2018 4:13 pm : link
IT!
Hopefully  
dune69 : 3/7/2018 4:13 pm : link
Bettcher sees big things with Ogletree. It must be a new era because we just made a significant investment in a linebacker. Love it.
RE: Why would the  
ryanmkeane : 3/7/2018 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13853702 Pete in MD said:
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Rams make this trade?

Has to be cap related. They will need to pay Donald ridiculous money. Goff, Gurley down the road.
Per Pat Traina  
knicks3031 : 3/7/2018 4:14 pm : link
It is the comp 4th pick.
A Giants GM that acknowledges the LB position?  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/7/2018 4:14 pm : link
Is this allowed?
Love the pick up, however  
Simms11 : 3/7/2018 4:14 pm : link
we're now down to 5 picks in the draft unless we trade down?!
There we go!!  
prdave73 : 3/7/2018 4:15 pm : link
Eagles make a move, so the Giants step up! DG making an impact already.
Hmmmm....  
Doomster : 3/7/2018 4:15 pm : link
This guy is getting paid more than our entire linebacker group last season....cap space just got a little less....down to about 14M.....and we haven't signed an OLman yet....
RE: RE: Love this trade  
BigBlueHens : 3/7/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13853677 Mike from Ohio said:
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Trading away two picks this year makes it seem a trade down from 2nd overall is more likely



Why do people keep saying this? They essentially lost one pick, because they did add a player.

The trade has no bearing on what they do with the draft, other than LB is less of a priority.

Because they have now traded away a 4th, 6th, and 7th. I think trading late round picks for a proven linebacker is a good move, but you have to think the GM is going to want more than 5 picks in his first draft. A draft that is extremely important to this franchise. If not trading down from 2nd overall, but maybe trading to accumulate more picks in other spots. It was just a thought.
Just signed a 4-year  
pjcas18 : 3/7/2018 4:16 pm : link
extension with the Rams this past season.

Team leader, high character football guy  
AcesUp : 3/7/2018 4:16 pm : link
May play a part in culture change.

I'm curious to see how much of the guarantees the Rams are eating on this and what this contract now looks like for the Giants.
Wow and just the compensatory pick?? I love this!!  
Knee of Theismann : 3/7/2018 4:16 pm : link
Sounds like the perfect "money-backer" for Bettcher's 3-4. Very athletic, a playmaker, still young, and cap numbers don't look bad at all. This is a great day!!!!
So is he better in a 4-3?  
Pete in MD : 3/7/2018 4:17 pm : link
He'll have big Snacks and Tomlinson protecting him for the next few years! Just like Ray Lewis had with Goose and Sam Adams.
Excellent  
AcidTest : 3/7/2018 4:17 pm : link
move. Ogletree has great sideline to sideline speed, and is only 26. And for just the comp four and a six, plus we get a seven next year. Well done DG.
Great pick up  
Rjanyg : 3/7/2018 4:18 pm : link
This is the speed LB our defense hasn't had since Jesse Armstead. Although Boley was pretty good, Ogletree is better.
RE: Love the pick up, however  
bw in dc : 3/7/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13853711 Simms11 said:
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we're now down to 5 picks in the draft unless we trade down?!


BFD.

We got a proven pro bowl caliber player at a position of need...
RE: How does this effect our  
Mr. Nickels : 3/7/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13853685 Andy in Boston said:
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Cap situation?


It looks like someone posted above he costs 3 or 4 million Rams eating the signing bonus?
finally a good MLB  
GMAN4LIFE : 3/7/2018 4:19 pm : link
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RE: What two picks?  
jvm52106 : 3/7/2018 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13853640 81_Great_Dane said:
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Sounds to me like this makes a trade down out of the #2 overall spot more likely. If you just traded two picks, you need more picks.

But what do I know?


My thoughts exactly. You give up some picks with the knowledge that you are looking to move down.
"Tree"  
Doomster : 3/7/2018 4:19 pm : link
is a 10M cap hit on 3/18....
RE: Team leader, high character football guy  
YAJ2112 : 3/7/2018 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13853718 AcesUp said:
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May play a part in culture change.

I'm curious to see how much of the guarantees the Rams are eating on this and what this contract now looks like for the Giants.


Pretty much no guarantees left beyond. He has a couple of roster bonuses that we are on the hook for. Basically he's on a 4/39 deal with us and cap hits are 10/10/10/9

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god damn this trade sucks  
OdellBeckhamJr : 3/7/2018 4:19 pm : link
ogletree is terrible he cannot tackle
Wonder why the Rams traded him  
Breeze_94 : 3/7/2018 4:19 pm : link
He is only 26 years old, a very good player, and the move only saves them 3mil. Plus, they just gave him a nice deal a few months ago.
Great Move  
Giants86 : 3/7/2018 4:19 pm : link
he is a player.
one thing  
Steve in Greenwich : 3/7/2018 4:20 pm : link
this does is change the narrative of "id rather have Hankins than a late 4th round pick". I'd rather have Ogletree than Hankins, especially at a lower cap number and with Hankins replacement now in year 2 and probably better than him in Tomlinson.
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