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Tyrod Taylor traded to Browns

BigBlue1092 : 3/9/2018 6:02 pm
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Interesting.  
halfback20 : 3/9/2018 6:04 pm : link
Does this mean they aren't going after McCarron? Definitely doesn't prevent them from drafting a QB.
well  
santacruzom : 3/9/2018 6:04 pm : link
I imagine that means they'll be taking Barkley.
Taylor is a bridge.  
Thegratefulhead : 3/9/2018 6:05 pm : link
They are taking their favorite QB at one.
RE: well  
Breeze_94 : 3/9/2018 6:06 pm : link
In comment 13856560 santacruzom said:
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I imagine that means they'll be taking Barkley.


Probably Barkley and Josh Allen/Darnold at 4 now. They still need a QB- Taylor is nothing more than a placeholder IMO.
I'm  
ryanmkeane : 3/9/2018 6:07 pm : link
shocked that Taylor went for that pick
I think this is better than signing...  
bw in dc : 3/9/2018 6:07 pm : link
Cousins.

Will the Browns have any picks left by the end of the weekend?
RE: Taylor is a bridge.  
santacruzom : 3/9/2018 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13856561 Thegratefulhead said:
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They are taking their favorite QB at one.


I hope so, but I doubt it.
Taylor will be a free agent after the coming season  
Ira : 3/9/2018 6:07 pm : link
.
RE: well  
81_Great_Dane : 3/9/2018 6:08 pm : link
In comment 13856560 santacruzom said:
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I imagine that means they'll be taking Barkley.
Yup.

They traded picks for a serviceable QB and a WR. They have Kizer, whom they seem to still like. They're looking at

Taylor/Kizer
Barkley
Gordon
Landry
Njoku

Pretty good weapons around those so-so QBs.
wow  
BleedBlue : 3/9/2018 6:08 pm : link
great news...he isnt cousins.
a QB at 1 now maybe?
Buffalo now gets involved  
Earl the goat : 3/9/2018 6:09 pm : link
In trading up to get a QB. Buffalo has two 1s and two 2s and two 3s
Holy crap  
Mkdaman1818 : 3/9/2018 6:09 pm : link
Looks like buffalo needs a Qb now, and we have #2. Cleveland will take saquon at 1 now, so let’s see how it shakes out...
Regardless of what Cleveland does  
Breeze_94 : 3/9/2018 6:10 pm : link
The Giants will either have a shot at their QB1(likely Darnold) or the BPA in the entire draft (Barkley or Chubb)

Yet some are insistent on trading down...
RE: Buffalo now gets involved  
Breeze_94 : 3/9/2018 6:10 pm : link
In comment 13856571 Earl the goat said:
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In trading up to get a QB. Buffalo has two 1s and two 2s and two 3s


I would need every single one of those picks and next years first.
RE: RE: well  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:12 pm : link
In comment 13856563 Breeze_94 said:
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I imagine that means they'll be taking Barkley.



Probably Barkley and Josh Allen/Darnold at 4 now. They still need a QB- Taylor is nothing more than a placeholder IMO.


I think it's the other way around. They will select Darnold at 1, and if he's there Barkley at 4.
If we take the talent pool away  
TommytheElephant : 3/9/2018 6:13 pm : link
And just rely on the chart
Does our #2 yield buffalos 1s and 2s
I’m such a homer but I still feel like it’s not enough
RE: Buffalo now gets involved  
bw in dc : 3/9/2018 6:13 pm : link
In comment 13856571 Earl the goat said:
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In trading up to get a QB. Buffalo has two 1s and two 2s and two 3s


Perhaps they are a surprise player in the Cousins sweepstakes...?
RE: RE: Taylor is a bridge.  
Thegratefulhead : 3/9/2018 6:14 pm : link
In comment 13856566 santacruzom said:
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They are taking their favorite QB at one.



I hope so, but I doubt it.
They have not had a QB in forever. They watched Goff and Wentz. We may have all of these QB with a similar grade but the key person making this decision is going to favor a certain talent/skillset/measurable and all these QBs are very different. Cleveland is going to favor one and my guess, playing in that division, they are going to see the similarities in Big Ben. They will take Allen at 1, he will not be there at 4. He will be taken at 2 or 3 if they take Barkley at one and not necessarily by the team currently drafting there. I think it is crazy to think that they will be like, meh, we will take the sloppy thirds at 4 for the most important position in all of sports, nope not buying it.
RE: RE: RE: Taylor is a bridge.  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:17 pm : link
In comment 13856580 Thegratefulhead said:
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They are taking their favorite QB at one.



I hope so, but I doubt it.

They have not had a QB in forever. They watched Goff and Wentz. We may have all of these QB with a similar grade but the key person making this decision is going to favor a certain talent/skillset/measurable and all these QBs are very different. Cleveland is going to favor one and my guess, playing in that division, they are going to see the similarities in Big Ben. They will take Allen at 1, he will not be there at 4. He will be taken at 2 or 3 if they take Barkley at one and not necessarily by the team currently drafting there. I think it is crazy to think that they will be like, meh, we will take the sloppy thirds at 4 for the most important position in all of sports, nope not buying it.


I think it's going to be Darnold with their 1st pick.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Taylor is a bridge.  
Thegratefulhead : 3/9/2018 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13856586 GFAN52 said:
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They are taking their favorite QB at one.



I hope so, but I doubt it.

They have not had a QB in forever. They watched Goff and Wentz. We may have all of these QB with a similar grade but the key person making this decision is going to favor a certain talent/skillset/measurable and all these QBs are very different. Cleveland is going to favor one and my guess, playing in that division, they are going to see the similarities in Big Ben. They will take Allen at 1, he will not be there at 4. He will be taken at 2 or 3 if they take Barkley at one and not necessarily by the team currently drafting there. I think it is crazy to think that they will be like, meh, we will take the sloppy thirds at 4 for the most important position in all of sports, nope not buying it.



I think it's going to be Darnold with their 1st pick.
I could buy that too, don't think Rosen or Mayfield go at 1, thinking Darnold or Allen. NFL likes big, I am not an Allen, think he will bust, but I see NFL falling more and more in love with him as time goes by. It is easy to talk yourself into that Size/Arm.
If I'm the Browns  
AcesUp : 3/9/2018 6:22 pm : link
I trade down from 4 and grab Lamar Jackson. They would have their developmental guy and the depth at QB to do some really interesting things on offense with a mobile QB.
Forget the damn chart..  
Sean : 3/9/2018 6:23 pm : link
We suffered through a 3-13 season to trade the pick for a couple picks in the 20’s?! Wow.
RE: If I'm the Browns  
Thegratefulhead : 3/9/2018 6:24 pm : link
In comment 13856595 AcesUp said:
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I trade down from 4 and grab Lamar Jackson. They would have their developmental guy and the depth at QB to do some really interesting things on offense with a mobile QB.
If they hadn't done that last time and look stupid because of it, I might agree. Kizer similar to Jackson.
RE: Buffalo now gets involved  
old man : 3/9/2018 6:24 pm : link
In comment 13856571 Earl the goat said:
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In trading up to get a QB. Buffalo has two 1s and two 2s and two 3s


In mocks re the Giants that involve double trade, the Bills are more likely to do that for their QB; sell the 22+ to get to some pick close to #10, then the 21++ to get their guy, unless he/ one of them they like falls that far somehow; since other teams after #7 seem set +/- at QB.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Taylor is a bridge.  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:24 pm : link
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They are taking their favorite QB at one.



I hope so, but I doubt it.

They have not had a QB in forever. They watched Goff and Wentz. We may have all of these QB with a similar grade but the key person making this decision is going to favor a certain talent/skillset/measurable and all these QBs are very different. Cleveland is going to favor one and my guess, playing in that division, they are going to see the similarities in Big Ben. They will take Allen at 1, he will not be there at 4. He will be taken at 2 or 3 if they take Barkley at one and not necessarily by the team currently drafting there. I think it is crazy to think that they will be like, meh, we will take the sloppy thirds at 4 for the most important position in all of sports, nope not buying it.



I think it's going to be Darnold with their 1st pick.

I could buy that too, don't think Rosen or Mayfield go at 1, thinking Darnold or Allen. NFL likes big, I am not an Allen, think he will bust, but I see NFL falling more and more in love with him as time goes by. It is easy to talk yourself into that Size/Arm.


Allen will have to blow them away at his Pro Day and conversely Darnold would have to really have a bad Pro Day session for Darnold to fall out of #1. I believe it will still come down to the Giants seeing Barkley and Rosen there at 2, and then having to make their choice.
Seems like the Browns are locked into Barkley at 1 to me.  
FStubbs : 3/9/2018 6:25 pm : link
Why trade for Taylor? They can sign Keenum if they just want someone to keep the bench warm for a QB.

They're going Taylor at 1 and Nelson/Chubb/Fitzpatrick at 4.
*Barkley  
FStubbs : 3/9/2018 6:25 pm : link
Oh for an edit feature.
All that cap space  
illmatic : 3/9/2018 6:27 pm : link
and the best they can do is Taylor? I get that he's a stop gap but still. There must be better competitive options in the meantime. Or, you know, for a franchise that has sucked at QB forever, they can just spend and get the sure thing in Cousins.
RE: *Barkley  
Thegratefulhead : 3/9/2018 6:27 pm : link
In comment 13856604 FStubbs said:
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Oh for an edit feature.
/Agreed x1000
RE: Seems like the Browns are locked into Barkley at 1 to me.  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:27 pm : link
In comment 13856603 FStubbs said:
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Why trade for Taylor? They can sign Keenum if they just want someone to keep the bench warm for a QB.

They're going Taylor at 1 and Nelson/Chubb/Fitzpatrick at 4.


Taylor is a bridge that's all in my opinion. They need a franchise QB, and will have to draft him at #1 to get their pick of the QB class.
RE: RE: If I'm the Browns  
AcesUp : 3/9/2018 6:28 pm : link
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I trade down from 4 and grab Lamar Jackson. They would have their developmental guy and the depth at QB to do some really interesting things on offense with a mobile QB.

If they hadn't done that last time and look stupid because of it, I might agree. Kizer similar to Jackson.


Because they also have Kizer, it's precisely why that thought crossed my mind. You would need to go 3 deep at QB if you start gameplanning to run your QB consistently. I highly doubt that's their plan but it would be an incredibly interesting experiment, especially when you factor in the surprising amount of talent on that offense.
RE: All that cap space  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:28 pm : link
In comment 13856607 illmatic said:
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and the best they can do is Taylor? I get that he's a stop gap but still. There must be better competitive options in the meantime. Or, you know, for a franchise that has sucked at QB forever, they can just spend and get the sure thing in Cousins.


Unless Cousins doesn't want to go there.
The only thing that seems evident in this draft is expectations will  
wgenesis123 : 3/9/2018 6:28 pm : link
keep changing between now and draft day.
This is just a stopgap move  
Jay on the Island : 3/9/2018 6:29 pm : link
They will still take a QB in the first round but now they might wait until the 4th pick. This could be great news for the Giants but bad news for Barkley fans.
RE: This is just a stopgap move  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:30 pm : link
In comment 13856613 Jay on the Island said:
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They will still take a QB in the first round but now they might wait until the 4th pick. This could be great news for the Giants but bad news for Barkley fans.


Why would they wait until the 4th pick and run the risk of missing out on their highest graded QB?
RE: All that cap space  
Thegratefulhead : 3/9/2018 6:31 pm : link
In comment 13856607 illmatic said:
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and the best they can do is Taylor? I get that he's a stop gap but still. There must be better competitive options in the meantime. Or, you know, for a franchise that has sucked at QB forever, they can just spend and get the sure thing in Cousins.
You pick your best QB prospect at 1 and there will be no hoopla surrounding the decision. Don't give Cousins a Garrapolo deal when the team that knows him best would not. Get and excellent, financially controlled QB and win like Seattle has. I think what they are is looking very very good and not signing Cousins to a megadeal is the best part of it. They are going to have room and get some really good buys if they are patient.
They're taking Saquon  
Toastt34 : 3/9/2018 6:32 pm : link
first.
RE: RE: RE: If I'm the Browns  
Thegratefulhead : 3/9/2018 6:33 pm : link
In comment 13856610 AcesUp said:
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I trade down from 4 and grab Lamar Jackson. They would have their developmental guy and the depth at QB to do some really interesting things on offense with a mobile QB.

If they hadn't done that last time and look stupid because of it, I might agree. Kizer similar to Jackson.



Because they also have Kizer, it's precisely why that thought crossed my mind. You would need to go 3 deep at QB if you start gameplanning to run your QB consistently. I highly doubt that's their plan but it would be an incredibly interesting experiment, especially when you factor in the surprising amount of talent on that offense.
Agree with you there, if they live by that kind of QB they better have at least 2.
Think this means they’re taking Barkley at 1  
jeff57 : 3/9/2018 6:33 pm : link
And staying at 4 where they’ll take a QB.
This tells us nothing as to whether  
DonnieD89 : 3/9/2018 6:34 pm : link
Cleveland selects their QB at 1 or 4. It only tells us that Taylor is short-term and they're going to take a quarterback. They still need to get this pick right. Cleveland is still trying to select their that QB that is going to be the face of the franchise for the next 10 years. They can't screw this up. Remember. They have 3 second round draft picks that they can also use for on arunning back. By no means does this is a guarantee that Barkley goes #1.
RE: This tells us nothing as to whether  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:36 pm : link
In comment 13856620 DonnieD89 said:
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Cleveland selects their QB at 1 or 4. It only tells us that Taylor is short-term and they're going to take a quarterback. They still need to get this pick right. Cleveland is still trying to select their that QB that is going to be the face of the franchise for the next 10 years. They can't screw this up. Remember. They have 3 second round draft picks that they can also use for on arunning back. By no means does this is a guarantee that Barkley goes #1.


Exactly. I don't see any way they aren't drafting at QB at 1 which I believe is Darnold.
RE: Think this means they’re taking Barkley at 1  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:37 pm : link
In comment 13856619 jeff57 said:
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And staying at 4 where they’ll take a QB.


Why 4? They would risk missing out on their highest rated QB.
RE: RE: Think this means they’re taking Barkley at 1  
Toastt34 : 3/9/2018 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13856624 GFAN52 said:
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And staying at 4 where they’ll take a QB.



Why 4? They would risk missing out on their highest rated QB.

Think they would rather not miss out on their highest rated player in the draft which looks like Barkley.
The only thing I take from this is that Kizer shouldn't be making  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 6:40 pm : link
long-term plans.

Wish I knew why people were so motivated to assume a meaning for every transaction.
RE: RE: RE: Think this means they’re taking Barkley at 1  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:42 pm : link
In comment 13856625 Toastt34 said:
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And staying at 4 where they’ll take a QB.



Why 4? They would risk missing out on their highest rated QB.


Think they would rather not miss out on their highest rated player in the draft which looks like Barkley.


They've been searching for a QB for ever and traded away their chances at Wentz and Watson. Whoever they rate the highest at QB has to be their 1st pick priority.
there goes  
UESBLUE : 3/9/2018 6:43 pm : link
Barkley...
Not sure how this means Barkley is going #1.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/9/2018 6:45 pm : link
Unless you consider Taylor a franchise QB, which I don't.
I think they  
TommyWiseau : 3/9/2018 6:45 pm : link
Plan to go Allen, whether at 1 or 4 I am not sure. Have Allen sit and Taylor play until he is ready
RE: Not sure how this means Barkley is going #1.  
GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 6:46 pm : link
In comment 13856635 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Unless you consider Taylor a franchise QB, which I don't.


I agree.
Kizer traded  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 6:48 pm : link
@RapSheet
Source: The #Packers have traded for QB DeShone Kizer. From the #Browns to Green Bay.
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