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Mainstream media picks up on Beckham video

twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:28 pm
The story is out in the open now. So the question is- what are the consequences?

We are looking at a guy who is asking for a 20 mil a year pay day, saying he wont play a snap in the preseason and on the last year of his contract and coming off a season ending injury. Add to the mix a brand new regime in both administration and coaching. New GM and new HC.

Will the Giants commit to a long term contract on Odell Beckham Jr this offseason or not? If so, at what what cost and will Beckham accept it? if not, what is his response? Would he hold out?

My answer to this question would be - do not resign Beckham. Let him play out the rest of his deal. At its conclusion, tag him and trade him like the Dolphins did with Landry and get what you can on him. Hopefully he comes in and plays and plays well and stays healthy and out of trouble and you recoup some value on him. I would allow him to hold out if he threatens that. He has to come back by a certain point by league rules. Giants hold all the cards.

I would not pay this man anything close to the price he is seeking.
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He's not the only player that partakes in such indulgences  
NoGainDayne : 3/9/2018 10:32 pm : link
but what an idiot to let anyone film you. No matter how good they are at fellatio
No consequences  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/9/2018 10:33 pm : link
Until he fails a drug test or he admits it. Can’t get in trouble for smoking “something” next to some “white stuff”
I love OBJ  
Rjanyg : 3/9/2018 10:36 pm : link
But I think he will never be a respectful pro, just not in his DNA. He maybe hard to re-sign and this video may lead NYG to think like Miami.

Kinda sucks because if he didn't have such a diva attitude he might break every NFL record and who knows maybe lift a Lombari.
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arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 10:37 pm : link
When did he say he wouldn't play a snap this preseason?

I never knew that's what the number "0" meant...
So you want to get rid of hin  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:37 pm : link
Based on a 2 second video?

No failed drug tests, no off the field issues and you want to get rid of him?

Is possible the thing in his hand is a Phillies cigar? Or a black and mild?
Did he do anything?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 10:38 pm : link
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Maybe i wasnt clear  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:38 pm : link
By consequences i meant - what do the Giants do about his contract?
RE: I love OBJ  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:38 pm : link
In comment 13857067 Rjanyg said:
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But I think he will never be a respectful pro, just not in his DNA. He maybe hard to re-sign and this video may lead NYG to think like Miami.

Kinda sucks because if he didn't have such a diva attitude he might break every NFL record and who knows maybe lift a Lombari.


He is not a respectful pro because he dances?

His diva attitude has effected his play on the field?

RE: Maybe i wasnt clear  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 13857073 twostepgiants said:
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By consequences i meant - what do the Giants do about his contract?


What did he do?
Maybe i wasnt clear  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:40 pm : link
By consequences i meant - what do the Giants do about his contract?
RE: Maybe i wasnt clear  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 10:40 pm : link
In comment 13857073 twostepgiants said:
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By consequences i meant - what do the Giants do about his contract?


Just my opinion, but I wasn't at all convinced it was going to happen this offseason anyway.
The fact that  
Sgrcts : 3/9/2018 10:40 pm : link
In 2018 we give a shit about this kind of stuff ESPECIALLY the cannabis is insane.
Geez, Taylor should thank his lucky stars  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:41 pm : link
He played before the Twitter era, he would be screwed...
Cut the playing dumb crap  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:42 pm : link
If you dont want to play get off the thread

Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine

You dont want to do anything fine say that

But dont play this what did he do nonsense
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arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 10:43 pm : link
LOL, I mean a video of Laremy Tunsil fogging his face off through a gas mask surfaced right before the draft and he was still taken in the first round. But we're going to get rid of Beckham for appearing in a 3 second boomerang where he's not actually doing ANYTHING illegal.

My only issue with him here is that he even put himself in this position.

Other than that, some of you people are really fucking naive if you don't think this type of thing goes on all offseason around the league. These are guys in their 20's. They do like to do things besides lock themselves away in a vault and watch film sometimes.
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nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:43 pm : link
I don't understand why some giants fans have such a holier than thou look at things..

Giants have had drug addicts, rapists, women beaters, morons who shot themselves, drug dealers just like every other team...
RE: Cut the playing dumb crap  
arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 10:44 pm : link
In comment 13857086 twostepgiants said:
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If you dont want to play get off the thread

Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine

You dont want to do anything fine say that

But dont play this what did he do nonsense


Is he holding cocaine? Is he doing it?
RE: Cut the playing dumb crap  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:45 pm : link
In comment 13857086 twostepgiants said:
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If you dont want to play get off the thread

Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine

You dont want to do anything fine say that

But dont play this what did he do nonsense


Did he do a line of coke in the video?

Was he smoking a blunt in the video?

You have never been in a place where someone was doing a line of coke or other drugs?

And if you have does that make you guilty?
I guarantee 75 percent of the NFL smokes weed  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:46 pm : link
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RE: Cut the playing dumb crap  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 10:46 pm : link
In comment 13857086 twostepgiants said:
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If you dont want to play get off the thread

Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine

You dont want to do anything fine say that

But dont play this what did he do nonsense


It still doesn't answer the question of 'what did he do?' What are we taking from this 4 second clip?

Spare me Arc  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:46 pm : link
Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus

The Giants arent cutting Beckham

And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants

And this isnt just pot involved

RE: Spare me Arc  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:49 pm : link
In comment 13857097 twostepgiants said:
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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus

The Giants arent cutting Beckham

And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants

And this isnt just pot involved


Seriously? He literally did nothing wrong in the video..

Who gives a shit if there is coke in the room, he is not doing it..

Never failed a drug test, and you automatically assume he is doing it?
RE: Spare me Arc  
arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 10:50 pm : link
In comment 13857097 twostepgiants said:
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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus

The Giants arent cutting Beckham

And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants

And this isnt just pot involved


You didn't answer my question.

Is he holding cocaine or doing it? Yes or no?
Some of you guys cant read  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:52 pm : link
I never said any of that

I said - what are the Giants going to do?

You are being foolish if you think they wont react- especially with contract talks upcoming

Tomorrows headlines in NY will be Beckham & Cocaine

RE: Spare me Arc  
Eman11 : 3/9/2018 10:53 pm : link
In comment 13857097 twostepgiants said:
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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus

The Giants arent cutting Beckham

And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants

And this isnt just pot involved


The coke part looks weird to me. Like it was edited or shopped or something.
RE: Some of you guys cant read  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:54 pm : link
In comment 13857105 twostepgiants said:
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I never said any of that

I said - what are the Giants going to do?

You are being foolish if you think they wont react- especially with contract talks upcoming

Tomorrows headlines in NY will be Beckham & Cocaine


Again what is there to react to? He literally did nothing...

You are naive if you don't think these athletes don't go to parties where plenty of drugs are being used, doesn't mean they are doing them..

Again how many drug tests has Beckham failed?
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arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 10:55 pm : link
I'll tell you what the Giants are going to do.

They're going to find out where the video came from, get actual details about what was going on behind closed doors, and then they'll probably tell Beckham to be smarter about who he spends time around and that'll be that.

If you're willing to move on from him because of a 3 second clip, I'd say you're being extremely reactionary and irrational.

This is not going to make them trade him or decide not to sign him long-term. So, if that's what you're hoping for, prepare to be disappointed.

You keep harping on the cocaine aspect of this.

Let me ask you a third time.

Is he touching it? Is he doing it?

Since you keep ignoring it, I'll answer for you.

No and no.
There is literally nothing for the giants to react to  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 10:56 pm : link
If Beckham has never failed a drug test why are they going to assume he is doing drugs?

He is in the presence of drugs, ok and? I have been to plenty of parties where people were doing coke, does that mean I was? No..
You guys are seriously naive  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:56 pm : link
Seriously

I wasnt born yesterday
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arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 10:58 pm : link
Beyond that, I will echo what several others have already said - the video looks dubbed or edited.

People can do a lot of things with video editing these days. A good friend of mine does this stuff for a living - he could make me look like a criminal without me doing a single thing wrong if he had some quick footage of me.

I'd suggest waiting to find out where the video game from and letting Beckham speak for himself before we draw conclusions - but alas, I see that it's already too late for people like you.

Oh well.
RE: You guys are seriously naive  
arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 10:58 pm : link
In comment 13857115 twostepgiants said:
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Seriously

I wasnt born yesterday


You sound like you were all over this thread.
Oh good god  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:59 pm : link
Please
RE: You guys are seriously naive  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 11:00 pm : link
In comment 13857115 twostepgiants said:
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Seriously

I wasnt born yesterday


Why do you assume he was doing drugs?

He has never failed a drug test so why do you assume he was doing It?

Again have you ever been to a party where drugs were involved?
RE: Oh good god  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 11:01 pm : link
In comment 13857120 twostepgiants said:
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Please


How about you stop with the one liners and actually answer the questions
Did anybody listen to the audio?  
dreadedrummer : 3/9/2018 11:02 pm : link
It sort of sounded like the episode of South Park after Isaac Hayes (Chef) left the show so they cut and pasted his lines from previous recordings. Very choppy and suspicious.
If being in the presence of substances is going to be a problem  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 11:03 pm : link
We may need to just close down the draft and literally all of college sports and put all pro athletes everywhere under house arrest after 6pm.

Under no circumstances though am I going to make the leap to assume on a 4 second clip that someone who's never once in his career even had a misstep with alcohol is now suddenly impersonating LT.
Arcs line of defenses  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 11:03 pm : link
1- it wasnt true, it was edited


2- even if it was he didnt do anything wrong anyway

3- even if he did do it, everyone does it anyway

RE: RE: Oh good god  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 11:04 pm : link
In comment 13857125 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13857120 twostepgiants said:


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Please



How about you stop with the one liners and actually answer the questions


Because your questions are naive
RE: Arcs line of defenses  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 11:05 pm : link
In comment 13857128 twostepgiants said:
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1- it wasnt true, it was edited


2- even if it was he didnt do anything wrong anyway

3- even if he did do it, everyone does it anyway


So you assume a guy who has never had any off the field issues with drugs or anything is smoking a blunt and doing cocaine?

Makes sense
Are you willing to bet $80-100 mil  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 11:05 pm : link
For the next 5 years, that Odell Beckham doesnt do cocaine?
RE: RE: RE: Oh good god  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 11:06 pm : link
In comment 13857130 twostepgiants said:
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In comment 13857125 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


In comment 13857120 twostepgiants said:


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Please



How about you stop with the one liners and actually answer the questions



Because your questions are naive


How am I being naive?

Did he do a line of coke in the video?

Has he ever failed a drug test?

Have you ever been to a party where drugs involved?

Do you really think when athletes go to parties that drugs are not in that party?

How about answer those?
RE: RE: Spare me Arc  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/9/2018 11:07 pm : link
In comment 13857108 Eman11 said:
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In comment 13857097 twostepgiants said:


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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus

The Giants arent cutting Beckham

And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants

And this isnt just pot involved




The coke part looks weird to me. Like it was edited or shopped or something.


Doesn’t look edited at all. And if someone really did take the time to edit it then they are one pathetic individual.
RE: Are you willing to bet $80-100 mil  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 11:07 pm : link
In comment 13857133 twostepgiants said:
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For the next 5 years, that Odell Beckham doesnt do cocaine?


Yes, because he has never ever failed a drug test and has never been in thr news for cocaine...

So Why would I assume he does cocaine?
Good god I cannot wait for this draft.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 3/9/2018 11:09 pm : link
This site gets more and more ridiculous with every passing day when the season ends. The ridiculous mountain out of a molehill posts are out of control. Yeah, let's cut the next player who walks into a Walmart and passes through the sports dept. where they have the hunting rifles. April 26th cannot come fast enough.
RE: Are you willing to bet $80-100 mil  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/9/2018 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13857133 twostepgiants said:
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For the next 5 years, that Odell Beckham doesnt do cocaine?


Of course. He’s never tested positive for it and never been caught doing it. Even if he was I wouldn’t care, just like I didn’t care about LT doing it.
RE: Arcs line of defenses  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13857128 twostepgiants said:
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1- it wasnt true, it was edited


2- even if it was he didnt do anything wrong anyway

3- even if he did do it, everyone does it anyway


I don't think you and arc are speaking the same language here.

Twosteps  
nygiants16 : 3/9/2018 11:11 pm : link
So are we supposed to assume that every athlete who has walked into a party where coke is involved is doing cocaine?

So did you want Lawrence Taylor cut?

Do you think gronk does coke?



Relax  
ChicagoGiant : 3/9/2018 11:12 pm : link
Based on the fact that he is an extremely media savvy person, he would (and is) not be that stupid. I am sure this goes nowhere - all media hype/social bs and fake news.
RE: .  
The_Boss : 3/9/2018 11:14 pm : link
In comment 13857113 arcarsenal said:
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I'll tell you what the Giants are going to do.

They're going to find out where the video came from, get actual details about what was going on behind closed doors, and then they'll probably tell Beckham to be smarter about who he spends time around and that'll be that.

If you're willing to move on from him because of a 3 second clip, I'd say you're being extremely reactionary and irrational.

This is not going to make them trade him or decide not to sign him long-term. So, if that's what you're hoping for, prepare to be disappointed.

You keep harping on the cocaine aspect of this.

Let me ask you a third time.

Is he touching it? Is he doing it?

Since you keep ignoring it, I'll answer for you.

No and no.


Assuming the NYG do intend on sitting down with Beckham to discuss behavior, actions, etc, at what point do they get tired of having to sit down with this guy? They seemingly have to discuss shit with him every fucking year.
Gimme a break on the drug test  
twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 11:16 pm : link
These guys all talk about how they used for yeard before they ever failed a drug test

LT used since 82 and didnt get caught until 87

The NFL still uses urine tests despite much better tech being out there since tbe 80s. Coke clears the system in days. They dont even hair test.
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