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Mainstream media picks up on Beckham video

twostepgiants : 3/9/2018 10:28 pm
The story is out in the open now. So the question is- what are the consequences?

We are looking at a guy who is asking for a 20 mil a year pay day, saying he wont play a snap in the preseason and on the last year of his contract and coming off a season ending injury. Add to the mix a brand new regime in both administration and coaching. New GM and new HC.

Will the Giants commit to a long term contract on Odell Beckham Jr this offseason or not? If so, at what what cost and will Beckham accept it? if not, what is his response? Would he hold out?

My answer to this question would be - do not resign Beckham. Let him play out the rest of his deal. At its conclusion, tag him and trade him like the Dolphins did with Landry and get what you can on him. Hopefully he comes in and plays and plays well and stays healthy and out of trouble and you recoup some value on him. I would allow him to hold out if he threatens that. He has to come back by a certain point by league rules. Giants hold all the cards.

I would not pay this man anything close to the price he is seeking.
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RE: How is it a possession crime  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 9:40 am : link
In comment 13857382 UConn4523 said:
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based on a blurry video? Don’t you have to actually be caught in person to be charged with possession of narcotics.

I mean you can hate Beckham all you want but now you are making shit up. Guess I should burn those college pictures of my buddies doing bong rips.


Uconn don't bother, apparently being in the presence of coke means you are doing it
RE: I don't know how old this video is but unfortunetly  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 9:43 am : link
In comment 13857388 Blue21 said:
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it's only a matter of time with him. I've been pro OBJ defending him and defending him but he's never going to learn. Wait until DG sees this. And he's up for a big contract? Man is he stupid. I'm sure he's gonna say it was an old video and that was a cigar and that wasn't coke on the table with his lady friend and the credit card. If anyone believes that I got a bridge to sell ya.


So based on that video you know for a fact he was doing coke and smoking a blunt?
RE: RE: How is it a possession crime  
UConn4523 : 3/10/2018 9:46 am : link
In comment 13857387 AnnapolisMike said:
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Guess I should burn those college pictures of my buddies doing bong rips.



Just don't post them on social media like a dumbass.


He didn’t. The guy is an instant target partly because of his fame and talent and part due to self promotion. Easy for all of us to say he shouldn’t breathe without an NDA but sometime shit just happens. You are all experts on everything, it’s tiresome to read after a while.

Only on BBI do you get a group of 10,000 people all with perfect lives and no criminal record.
And let's really break down the video  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 9:54 am : link
First off the cigar/blunt is not even lit so he is not even smoking in video...

Second if he is going to roll a blunt he hasn't yet because that cigar is still wrapped in the leaf and the tobacco is still in it.. no blunt has an opening at the end, both sides are tight...

Third as soon as the "coke" appears he tries to kick her out. You can hear him saying I am going. To find a place for you, he wants nothing to do with it...
RE: RE: That’s the point  
NikkiMac : 3/10/2018 9:57 am : link
In comment 13857294 ajr2456 said:
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Mara is only going to let him embarrass the franchise for so long.....



Like how they let Tito Wooten beat his girlfriend to the point she killed herself and then gave him a huge contract?


Who was the genius GM who did that Accorsi the great ?
This hurts him  
Bill L : 3/10/2018 9:59 am : link
Now, the best I’d do is 19.5M.
RE: The good news  
NikkiMac : 3/10/2018 9:59 am : link
In comment 13857329 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Is that more and more people every day are taking off their blue glasses and coming back to reality.

The guy has JPP syndrome. Literally all you need to do in order to set up your grandkids grandkids for life is just play the choir boy card for like 2 years. These guys are so dumb they can't even do that. How can you trust a guy like that when the chips are down?

It's like watching your teenage kid make dumb decisions over and over and just ignoring it. That's fine but then dont act surprised when shit hits the fan because you kept your head in the sand.

FYI. I don't care if Beckham smokes weed. As has already been said every player does. My issue is the inability to understand the optics.


You nailed it good post....
It is a dumb post though  
UConn4523 : 3/10/2018 10:07 am : link
the video may be from college and if that’s he case he’s had zero, I repeat, zero off the field incidents. I’ve never even seen him with a beer on social media. I’d actually argue he does a great job of keeping away from bad stuff as well.

So yeah, shitty post from a shitty poster.
RE: RE: I don't know how old this video is but unfortunetly  
Blue21 : 3/10/2018 10:26 am : link
In comment 13857399 nygiants16 said:
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it's only a matter of time with him. I've been pro OBJ defending him and defending him but he's never going to learn. Wait until DG sees this. And he's up for a big contract? Man is he stupid. I'm sure he's gonna say it was an old video and that was a cigar and that wasn't coke on the table with his lady friend and the credit card. If anyone believes that I got a bridge to sell ya.



So based on that video you know for a fact he was doing coke and smoking a blunt?



This isn't a criminal investigation. This is a team willing to take a chance on a guy and spending millions of dollars on him and the teams image. Can't prove anything by that video in court but let's be honest as to what it looks like and probably is. I'm sure the Mara's and DG were thrilled with it. I can only hope it's an old video and he knows better now. But how many times are we going to see these idiotic episodes on and off the field. Only good thing is his arrest record is clean and by all accounts a very like able guy. But come on if this keeps up he's headed for bad things.
How far can one stretch?  
twostepgiants : 3/10/2018 10:30 am : link
Odell in college

RE: RE: RE: I don't know how old this video is but unfortunetly  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 13857446 Blue21 said:
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it's only a matter of time with him. I've been pro OBJ defending him and defending him but he's never going to learn. Wait until DG sees this. And he's up for a big contract? Man is he stupid. I'm sure he's gonna say it was an old video and that was a cigar and that wasn't coke on the table with his lady friend and the credit card. If anyone believes that I got a bridge to sell ya.



So based on that video you know for a fact he was doing coke and smoking a blunt?




This isn't a criminal investigation. This is a team willing to take a chance on a guy and spending millions of dollars on him and the teams image. Can't prove anything by that video in court but let's be honest as to what it looks like and probably is. I'm sure the Mara's and DG were thrilled with it. I can only hope it's an old video and he knows better now. But how many times are we going to see these idiotic episodes on and off the field. Only good thing is his arrest record is clean and by all accounts a very like able guy. But come on if this keeps up he's headed for bad things.


What has he done off the field that makes you think he does drugs?

He has done nothing off the field to make you think he does drugs..

On the field is he an asshole? Absolutely but off the field he has done nothing
RE: And let's really break down the video  
twostepgiants : 3/10/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 13857412 nygiants16 said:
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First off the cigar/blunt is not even lit so he is not even smoking in video...

Second if he is going to roll a blunt he hasn't yet because that cigar is still wrapped in the leaf and the tobacco is still in it.. no blunt has an opening at the end, both sides are tight...

Third as soon as the "coke" appears he tries to kick her out. You can hear him saying I am going. To find a place for you, he wants nothing to do with it...


OR

1- he doesnt know he's being recorded. Because he is already high AF

2- he is not holding a blunt or cigar or anything to smoke in his hand. Its his tube to snort with.
They don't use tubes  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 10:40 am : link
They use 100 dollar bills
RE: They don't use tubes  
twostepgiants : 3/10/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 13857461 nygiants16 said:
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They use 100 dollar bills


People with money who do alot of coke have their own

RE: RE: The good news  
ThatLimerickGuy : 3/10/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 13857420 NikkiMac said:
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Is that more and more people every day are taking off their blue glasses and coming back to reality.

The guy has JPP syndrome. Literally all you need to do in order to set up your grandkids grandkids for life is just play the choir boy card for like 2 years. These guys are so dumb they can't even do that. How can you trust a guy like that when the chips are down?

It's like watching your teenage kid make dumb decisions over and over and just ignoring it. That's fine but then dont act surprised when shit hits the fan because you kept your head in the sand.

FYI. I don't care if Beckham smokes weed. As has already been said every player does. My issue is the inability to understand the optics.



You nailed it good post....


Thanks.

Seriously think of it like this. If someone told any of one us. I will give you 80 million dollars if you just don't f' up for 2 years, 99% of us would sit home with our hands folded counting down the days with a huge smile on our face.
I think its more likely a tube  
twostepgiants : 3/10/2018 10:50 am : link
No, I think most of us  
bceagle05 : 3/10/2018 10:51 am : link
would just go ahead and smoke weed and bang models.
RE: They don't use tubes  
Blue21 : 3/10/2018 10:57 am : link
In comment 13857461 nygiants16 said:
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They use 100 dollar bills


Nygiant... hopefully he doesn't do drugs. Nothing specifically off the field except this and the travel to Florida before the playoff game which all the WR's did I know. He's a diva. I get that and I want him on this team as much as anyone but if you think these things haven't come up in conversations with management I think you're wrong. Doesn't look good. Doesn't help his image. That's why it's in the papers and all over the internet.
RE: RE: They don't use tubes  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 11:00 am : link
In comment 13857479 Blue21 said:
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In comment 13857461 nygiants16 said:


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They use 100 dollar bills



Nygiant... hopefully he doesn't do drugs. Nothing specifically off the field except this and the travel to Florida before the playoff game which all the WR's did I know. He's a diva. I get that and I want him on this team as much as anyone but if you think these things haven't come up in conversations with management I think you're wrong. Doesn't look good. Doesn't help his image. That's why it's in the papers and all over the internet.


Blue I get all that but I don't understand what Beckham has done for people to assume he is a drug addict or likes to do coke, he has done nothing to insinuate thag...

The diva stuff I get, and I get he is over the top with his hair and the dancing but I would take his antics over some of the stuff these players do off the field over and over again..

Kid never shows up late, shows up to every practice never takes a play off or a day off...he plays harder than anybody and works harder yet giants fans hate him I don't get it
RE: The good news  
ajr2456 : 3/10/2018 11:13 am : link
In comment 13857329 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Is that more and more people every day are taking off their blue glasses and coming back to reality.

The guy has JPP syndrome. Literally all you need to do in order to set up your grandkids grandkids for life is just play the choir boy card for like 2 years. These guys are so dumb they can't even do that. How can you trust a guy like that when the chips are down?

It's like watching your teenage kid make dumb decisions over and over and just ignoring it. That's fine but then dont act surprised when shit hits the fan because you kept your head in the sand.

FYI. I don't care if Beckham smokes weed. As has already been said every player does. My issue is the inability to understand the optics.


How is it his false someone recorded him without his knowledge and then posted it on social media
Looks like a drug bag next to him  
twostepgiants : 3/10/2018 11:25 am : link
With another bag with white powder sticking out

The pipe or tube he is holding is the type of paraphenlia that one carries in such a bag
How about we look at this another way  
ThatLimerickGuy : 3/10/2018 11:38 am : link
Would you pay him 100 million dollars of your own money if you were the boss?

Again- I don't give a shit about the drugs. The contracts these guys sign means they don't get paid if they get suspended for testing positive for drugs.

I care about needing guys who aren't dumb and who have the proper professional mindset and attitude. You can't win with guys who don't get it.

Point A- Richard Sherman. Guy is a grade A douche on the field who plays with an edge. He understands how to be a pro. You don't see this shit with someone like him. I'm not asking Beckham to be a square like Eli but he doesn't have to be an idiot either.
RE: How about we look at this another way  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 11:42 am : link
In comment 13857541 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Would you pay him 100 million dollars of your own money if you were the boss?

Again- I don't give a shit about the drugs. The contracts these guys sign means they don't get paid if they get suspended for testing positive for drugs.

I care about needing guys who aren't dumb and who have the proper professional mindset and attitude. You can't win with guys who don't get it.

Point A- Richard Sherman. Guy is a grade A douche on the field who plays with an edge. He understands how to be a pro. You don't see this shit with someone like him. I'm not asking Beckham to be a square like Eli but he doesn't have to be an idiot either.


Absolutely I pay him..

How many meeting has he missed or been late for?

How many times has he been suspended or disciplined by the team?

How many plays does he take off durring a game?

You will never see him dog it on the field..

Every single teammate says they love him and call him the hatdrdt worker on the team..

When he is on the field I know he is going to give 110 percent and wants to win as bad as anyone...

So yeah I pay him 100 million easily because I k ow he is going to bring it
RE: RE: RE: They don't use tubes  
Blue21 : 3/10/2018 11:47 am : link
In comment 13857488 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13857461 nygiants16 said:


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They use 100 dollar bills



Nygiant... hopefully he doesn't do drugs. Nothing specifically off the field except this and the travel to Florida before the playoff game which all the WR's did I know. He's a diva. I get that and I want him on this team as much as anyone but if you think these things haven't come up in conversations with management I think you're wrong. Doesn't look good. Doesn't help his image. That's why it's in the papers and all over the internet.



Blue I get all that but I don't understand what Beckham has done for people to assume he is a drug addict or likes to do coke, he has done nothing to insinuate thag...

The diva stuff I get, and I get he is over the top with his hair and the dancing but I would take his antics over some of the stuff these players do off the field over and over again..

Kid never shows up late, shows up to every practice never takes a play off or a day off...he plays harder than anybody and works harder yet giants fans hate him I don't get it


The ironic part is I love the hair...I love his dancing except for the urinating like a dog ....I like his flair. I also doubt he's a drug addict.Could be a party user. I don't know. I just want him to stop doing stupid things. I want him on this team without suspensions.
RE: RE: How about we look at this another way  
ThatLimerickGuy : 3/10/2018 1:53 pm : link
How many meeting has he missed or been late for?

Who knows the answer to this? Let's even assume for arguments sake it is zero.



How many times has he been suspended or disciplined?

Suspended Once- A suspension for being out of control on the field. I also believe he has been fined at least 5 times for various other things.



How many plays does he take off during a game?

He has admittedly "not had fun" at times during games- and his body language and attitude has reflected that at times. He also has thrown tantrums on the sideline to the point that a head coach needs to come out and say he needs to be "less of a distraction" during games.



You will never see him dog it on the field

Yes I actually have. He lifted his leg like a dog and pretended to urinate, which was one of his many fines. I'd also maybe categorize this as the low point in terms of the classiness of a flagship NFL franchise.



Every single teammate says they love him and call him the hardest worker on the team.-

Oh Really? In October 2016 the headline I read was "GIANTS TEAMMATES SEEM FED UP WITH HIM", which included various quotes from teammates, the GM and the head coach about how they were pissed.


When he is on the field I know he is going to give 110 percent and wants to win as bad as anyone-

That's a narrative that is pushed by the Beckham apologists. Lot's of guys want to win really bad. You don't need to be an asshole to want to win. The "passion" that people mention with Beckham holds him back. Sports psychologists have said this about him it's not only my opinion.



So yeah I pay him 100 million easily because I know he is going to bring it.

No you won't pay him anything but you want the Giants to spend THEIR money on the guy. If he flames out and continues on the path that he is on then you get to just gripe on the internet about it but he has to still write the checks to a point.
Didn't you just say if I were the boss?  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 1:57 pm : link
And now you are changing the question?

Also that was a low point of the franchise? And classiness?

Same team that has had criminals, wife beaters, drug addicts on the team and that was the low point?

RE: RE: RE: How about we look at this another way  
ajr2456 : 3/10/2018 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13857757 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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How many meeting has he missed or been late for?

Who knows the answer to this? Let's even assume for arguments sake it is zero.



How many times has he been suspended or disciplined?

Suspended Once- A suspension for being out of control on the field. I also believe he has been fined at least 5 times for various other things.



How many plays does he take off during a game?

He has admittedly "not had fun" at times during games- and his body language and attitude has reflected that at times. He also has thrown tantrums on the sideline to the point that a head coach needs to come out and say he needs to be "less of a distraction" during games.



You will never see him dog it on the field

Yes I actually have. He lifted his leg like a dog and pretended to urinate, which was one of his many fines. I'd also maybe categorize this as the low point in terms of the classiness of a flagship NFL franchise.



Every single teammate says they love him and call him the hardest worker on the team.-

Oh Really? In October 2016 the headline I read was "GIANTS TEAMMATES SEEM FED UP WITH HIM", which included various quotes from teammates, the GM and the head coach about how they were pissed.


When he is on the field I know he is going to give 110 percent and wants to win as bad as anyone-

That's a narrative that is pushed by the Beckham apologists. Lot's of guys want to win really bad. You don't need to be an asshole to want to win. The "passion" that people mention with Beckham holds him back. Sports psychologists have said this about him it's not only my opinion.



So yeah I pay him 100 million easily because I know he is going to bring it.

No you won't pay him anything but you want the Giants to spend THEIR money on the guy. If he flames out and continues on the path that he is on then you get to just gripe on the internet about it but he has to still write the checks to a point.


Go for a walk or something
I’ve defended Odell in the past,  
Section331 : 3/10/2018 5:13 pm : link
but you’re whistling past the graveyard if you don’t think this video will hurt his contract negotiations. The lengths some go to defend him in this case is pretty amazing. So, being video’d in bed with a woman cutting lines of coke is ok because he wasn’t caught on video doing any? Wow, that is a prime example of putting your head in the sand.

Comparing him to LT is pointless. Yes, LT would be roasted nowadays, undoubtedly caught on video in very compromised situations. The glut of video and changing mores on drug use would have been very problematic for LT. This is a problem for Odell, and I have to think the Giants are extremely unhappy.
Despite all the ruckass  
mrvax : 3/10/2018 5:40 pm : link
OBJ seems like "a player that hates to lose", which is what Gettleman wants.
RE: Looks like a drug bag next to him  
montanagiant : 3/10/2018 11:42 pm : link
In comment 13857530 twostepgiants said:
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With another bag with white powder sticking out

The pipe or tube he is holding is the type of paraphenlia that one carries in such a bag

LMAO...BBI CSI is the bestest
LOL.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/10/2018 11:53 pm : link
This fucking guy keeps referencing "sports psychologists" as if a team of them dissects Beckham.

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When he is on the field I know he is going to give 110 percent and wants to win as bad as anyone-

That's a narrative that is pushed by the Beckham apologists. Lot's of guys want to win really bad. You don't need to be an asshole to want to win. The "passion" that people mention with Beckham holds him back. Sports psychologists have said this about him it's not only my opinion.


Actually - it is just your opinion, but since it is a shitty one, you need to create a fictitious group of "sports psychologists" that have supposedly weighed in.

And there's the obligatory line of "Beckham apologists" in there too.

I'm just waiting for the inevitable hinting that Beckham is gay and part of some underground pizza eating, chick as a beard, ass munching society.
RE: Looks like a drug bag next to him  
Greg from LI : 3/11/2018 12:13 am : link
In comment 13857530 twostepgiants said:
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With another bag with white powder sticking out

The pipe or tube he is holding is the type of paraphenlia that one carries in such a bag


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