During the period beginning at 12 noon, New York time, on March 12th and ending at 3:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 14th, clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with, the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2017 player contracts at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 14. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 14.
OL Chris Hubbard
C John Sullivan
OL Jack Mewhort
WR Moncrief, Matthews
CB Robinson, Cockrell
LB, Kennard, Hitchens, Bradham
RB, McKinnon or Lewis
Realistic Wish list:
Norwell, Fleming, Moncrief, Cockrell, Kennard
I disagree. This is said every off-season. What do you really expect? The entire all-pro team to hit the open market all at once?
WR Moncrief, Matthews
CB Robinson, Cockrell
LB, Kennard, Hitchens, Bradham
RB, McKinnon or Lewis
Realistic Wish list:
Norwell, Fleming, Moncrief, Cockrell, Kennard
If the Giants wanted to re sign Cockrell they could have done it any time. I don’t think he is a priority.
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OL Norwell, Fleming, Hubbard
WR Moncrief, Matthews
CB Robinson, Cockrell
LB, Kennard, Hitchens, Bradham
RB, McKinnon or Lewis
Realistic Wish list:
Norwell, Fleming, Moncrief, Cockrell, Kennard
You may be right but they could be working on a contract right now or he may be signed later in the coming weeks.
If the Giants wanted to re sign Cockrell they could have done it any time. I don’t think he is a priority.
No thanks to that clown
Missed all of 2017 with torn ACL
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I know people like to keep all news to one thread but it js very annoying to read through all of the comments when the majority are just people posting things other than news. Can we have a news only thread and a discussion thread? Thanks.
agreed
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would be a nice under the radar signing. He always seemed to kill the Giants. We need depth, and he will be cheap because of his age. I think he could thrive in a reduced role similar to what Chris Long did down the stretch for the Eagles. He has also played both 4-3 and 3-4 and will be a good locker room presence.
His hair though, it's terrible, just terrible.
Plus he looks too much like JonC.
Not even close. You can get CB's and we do have a 1st RD pick that needs to play better. Our Online has NOTHING... NOTHING!!! The whole offense is worthless without some semblence of an OLINE. CB's can be protected some by scheme and a pass rush. The offense can't protect an oline much without sacrificing the , well, offense!
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would be a nice under the radar signing. He always seemed to kill the Giants. We need depth, and he will be cheap because of his age. I think he could thrive in a reduced role similar to what Chris Long did down the stretch for the Eagles. He has also played both 4-3 and 3-4 and will be a good locker room presence.
His hair though, it's terrible, just terrible.
Plus he looks too much like JonC.
Bastid!
Doubt we spend UFA $ on another OLB.
Jerry recco apparently does not do any research, it is 12
Don't know, I think we're going to see a few new additions and personnel turnover. Flowers might be their only piece right now.
and Flowers right behind them...
If the Giants are targeting Nate Solder they will have some competition, mainly from the Texans and Solder's old squad, the Pats.
As the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes heats up, sources say at least 2 teams are prepared to offer the free agent QB a 3-year, fully guaranteed contract if that’s what it takes. At least one other team will do a similar deal nearly fully guaranteed. Would make him the highest paid QB.
8:50 AM · Mar 12, 2018
The #Vikings have been considered to be in the driver’s seat for Kirk Cousins and that hasn’t changed (yet). The expectation is he takes at least 1 — maybe 2 — visits before signing. Cousins doesn’t want to be Brock Osweiler & end up in a bad fit.
8:53 AM · Mar 12, 2018
You must be mistaken. Salary cap is not a constraint, the band of merry men on BBI have been adamant about this.
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Kirk Cousins may be close to a deal over the next few days. But he won’t finalize anything until he meets with coaches & others. That means Wednesday or more likely Thursday for a final decision.
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the SAM position is almost always a value spot, even moreso when you're snug under the cap and need to rebuild you OL, badly.
You must be mistaken. Salary cap is not a constraint, the band of merry men on BBI have been adamant about this.
I understand their view on it, but eventually you can't rob Peter to pay Paul any longer.
and Flowers right behind them...
How do you know this? None of us have a clue if the Giants have little to no interest in retaining them. Besides that, wasn’t there an article posted the other day that Richburg has received a ton of interest from other teams?
I’m not debating the disaster that is the OL, just saying that it’s a bit disingenuous to say that these guys are so bad that no one wants them.
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the SAM position is almost always a value spot, even moreso when you're snug under the cap and need to rebuild you OL, badly.
You must be mistaken. Salary cap is not a constraint, the band of merry men on BBI have been adamant about this.
Nobody is saying the salary cap is not a constraint. We are saying that it's not as big a constraint as many would like to believe.
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the SAM position is almost always a value spot, even moreso when you're snug under the cap and need to rebuild you OL, badly.
You must be mistaken. Salary cap is not a constraint, the band of merry men on BBI have been adamant about this.
It isn't a restraint when the topic is signing Norwell. Which has been the discussion.
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spent a #1 and #2 on Pugh and Richburg and we have little to no interest in retaining their services because of the value they have shown while in a Giants uniform.
and Flowers right behind them...
How do you know this? None of us have a clue if the Giants have little to no interest in retaining them. Besides that, wasn’t there an article posted the other day that Richburg has received a ton of interest from other teams?
I’m not debating the disaster that is the OL, just saying that it’s a bit disingenuous to say that these guys are so bad that no one wants them.
I didn't say nobody wants them Shock. Only commented we spent the draft capital, growing/non-growing pains with both, only likely to be left holding the bag on replacing them soon.
I don't know if the Giants are interested, but if they are, they better speak up...
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the SAM position is almost always a value spot, even moreso when you're snug under the cap and need to rebuild you OL, badly.
You must be mistaken. Salary cap is not a constraint, the band of merry men on BBI have been adamant about this.
It isn't a restraint when the topic is signing Norwell. Which has been the discussion.
I’m mostly being cheeky. There were a few instances when Fats and a couple of others got a little over-the-top in the assertion, in my opinion.
and Flowers right behind them...
To be fair, after year 2 everyone thought we'd hit a home run with Richburg. Where did that guy go? And Pugh has played up to his draft position when on the field. The fact that he's injured a lot is par for the course for anyone wearing Giants blue.
He will gain interest across the league. It would be funny if he ended up with the Patriots.
This Cap Space issue we speak of for the Giants is more a worry to fans than it is to management and ownership. They have ways to make things work and I suspect we will see some of those ways shortly if we have a few guys we are targeting.
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spent a #1 and #2 on Pugh and Richburg and we have little to no interest in retaining their services because of the value they have shown while in a Giants uniform.
and Flowers right behind them...
How do you know this? None of us have a clue if the Giants have little to no interest in retaining them. Besides that, wasn’t there an article posted the other day that Richburg has received a ton of interest from other teams?
I’m not debating the disaster that is the OL, just saying that it’s a bit disingenuous to say that these guys are so bad that no one wants them.
I didn't say nobody wants them Shock. Only commented we spent the draft capital, growing/non-growing pains with both, only likely to be left holding the bag on replacing them soon.
I don't know if the Giants are interested, but if they are, they better speak up...
Gotcha. Personally I hope we move on from both but i wouldn’t be surprised to see one of them back, if only because aside from a few guys that teams will be competing against each other for, there isn’t a great crop to replace them this year.
If players verbally agree and then back off they’ll burn bridges. You’ll see some deals announced during this period for sure, and they’re basically done
yes, lets see how much we could possibly invest in an under performing D-line.
"reasonable" price for Suh would eat almost all current cap space, lets be real.
This scares me. I never like to hear the "sure thing, done deal" comments before free agency. Hopefully we get him.
Landy isn't worth his pay. Miami isn't making a mistake letting that go.
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But because you can’t sign them until Wednesday afternoon, you don’t really know you have picked someone up, right?
If players verbally agree and then back off they’ll burn bridges. You’ll see some deals announced during this period for sure, and they’re basically done
Okay.....thanks. I guess I will pay more attention now.
This Cap Space issue we speak of for the Giants is more a worry to fans than it is to management and ownership. They have ways to make things work and I suspect we will see some of those ways shortly if we have a few guys we are targeting.
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Probably Sherman signing with the Niners.
But, he has made it to the free agency period. And, as I gather, there's nothing stopping him from going somewhere else and sticking the Saints with $18M in dead cap. His contract has a "no tag" provision.
Until Saints sign him up, an interesting under-the-radar situation.
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Man you always swing and miss..
Robinson resigning in philly
Antdog,
You heard anything about some FA targets?
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taking best guesses and hoping the shit he's throwing at the wall eventually sticks.
Antdog,
You heard anything about some FA targets?
My sources tell me they are currently negotiating with Norwell but SF is on the other line on Norwell's phone waiting to put in their counter offer. Meanwhile, we're on hold right now with Webb's agent.
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taking best guesses and hoping the shit he's throwing at the wall eventually sticks.
Antdog,
You heard anything about some FA targets?
My sources tell me they are currently negotiating with Norwell but SF is on the other line on Norwell's phone waiting to put in their counter offer. Meanwhile, we're on hold right now with Webb's agent.
Webb as in Davis Webb? Is there a trade about to happen?
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Aaron Colvin and Patrick Robinson for the slot.
Man you always swing and miss..
Robinson resigning in philly
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taking best guesses and hoping the shit he's throwing at the wall eventually sticks.
Antdog,
You heard anything about some FA targets?
My sources tell me they are currently negotiating with Norwell but SF is on the other line on Norwell's phone waiting to put in their counter offer. Meanwhile, we're on hold right now with Webb's agent.
Webb as in Davis Webb? Is there a trade about to happen?
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released by Baltimore. He'd be a decent veteran safety pickup.
ahhh gotcha.
Wrong again. Just stop already
Many think Andrew Norwell will join the Giants; the 49ers reportedly are trying to prevent that from happening https://t.co/T6Pxn8WdtZ
Nowell = Norwell
They're not going to spend $20m on a guard just because they have $70m in space.
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In comment 13859872 antdog24 said:
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taking best guesses and hoping the shit he's throwing at the wall eventually sticks.
Antdog,
You heard anything about some FA targets?
My sources tell me they are currently negotiating with Norwell but SF is on the other line on Norwell's phone waiting to put in their counter offer. Meanwhile, we're on hold right now with Webb's agent.
Antdog,
any update on Norwell? Webb?