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Ummm...  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/14/2018 7:52 am : link
Nate Solderū @Nate_Solder ˇ 22h22 hours ago


After thoughtful consideration, I have decided to stay in New England. This place has always been my home and always will be. #NoPlaceLikeHome

Pete - Fake News  
ZogZerg : 3/14/2018 8:02 am : link
Read the thread on him.
Thank god Zog!  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/14/2018 8:06 am : link
We need him blocking Eli's blind side!
RE: People just dont get it  
Beer Man : 3/14/2018 9:14 am : link
In comment 13863632 blueblood said:
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its not what you think he is worth.. its what the market price is.. thats what sets the value.. look at what some of the mediocre guys who play tackle got last year..

you keep hearing that guys coming out of college on the OL arent ready to start.. and then you cry about how much starters are getting paid??

I both love and hate this time of year on BBI..
Well there is supply, demand, and having to balance the checkbook and stay within budget.
Nigel Bradham stays in Philly  
adamg : 3/14/2018 9:16 am : link
Glad we got in on Ogletree
With Hyde to the Browns  
Mr. Nickels : 3/14/2018 9:24 am : link
Barkley is ours
The Patriots have made an offer  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2018 9:28 am : link
to QB AJ McCarron.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: According  
nyballa0891 : 3/14/2018 9:47 am : link
In comment 13863624 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 13863613 nyballa0891



Solder is not top 10. Hes more 15-25, 13 mil a year would def be an overpay



Can we name the 14 guys better? I don't think he is average at all


Thomas
Armstead
Brown
Okung
Staley
Decker
Peters
Whitworth
Williams
Smith
Bakhtiari
Penn
Glenn
Stanley
Matthews
The Eagles came into FA with -9 mil in cap space  
Breeze_94 : 3/14/2018 9:50 am : link
And still able to re-sign Bradham for 8mil apy, add Michael Bennett, add a starting CB from the Panthers, and sign Haloti Ngata.

Nyballa  
jtgiants : 3/14/2018 9:51 am : link
Solder is better than multiple guys on that list
Nyballa  
jtgiants : 3/14/2018 9:52 am : link
And its not even a debate. Again, imo, he's between the 8th and 12th best tackle in the game
RE: With Hyde to the Browns  
PatersonPlank : 3/14/2018 9:53 am : link
In comment 13864044 Mr. Nickels said:
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Barkley is ours


Yep. Hyde is young and they are paying $$ for him. They will go QB at #1 if this deal goes through. I could see the Brown going Darnold and Nelson for example.
Hyde  
AcesUp : 3/14/2018 9:58 am : link
Probably increases the likelihood that the Browns go QB at 1. However, that doesn't guarantee it. Hyde is only on a 3 yr deal and the annual is only 5m, I doubt the guarantees are nuts there.

The bigger factor is probably the Bills looming in a trade up to #3. They can't afford to pass on QB only to see 2 fall off the board after their pick.
RE: RE: With Hyde to the Browns  
Peppers : 3/14/2018 10:04 am : link
In comment 13864109 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 13864044 Mr. Nickels said:


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Barkley is ours



Yep. Hyde is young and they are paying $$ for him. They will go QB at #1 if this deal goes through. I could see the Brown going Darnold and Nelson for example.


For what its worth, a few weeks ago when I heard Cleveland was going for Hyde (I shared that with you guys in one of these threads) it was partially tied to Cleveland taking Darnold at 1.
Dorsey  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/14/2018 10:14 am : link
Is he printing his own money in the Browns basement????!
RE: Hyde  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2018 10:14 am : link
In comment 13864121 AcesUp said:
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Probably increases the likelihood that the Browns go QB at 1. However, that doesn't guarantee it. Hyde is only on a 3 yr deal and the annual is only 5m, I doubt the guarantees are nuts there.

The bigger factor is probably the Bills looming in a trade up to #3. They can't afford to pass on QB only to see 2 fall off the board after their pick.


Exactly. They go Darnold, Giants Rosen, Colts trade the pick to the Bills who take Arnold, and the Browns end up with Barkley at 4.
Some OL news:  
adamg : 3/14/2018 10:17 am : link
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Ravens Center and UFA Ryan Jensen has plans to make two different free agent visits this week: Tampa Bay and Indianapolis.
ZAch Fulton to the Chiefs  
adamg : 3/14/2018 10:25 am : link
One less OL
RE: ZAch Fulton to the Chiefs  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2018 10:27 am : link
In comment 13864215 adamg said:
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One less OL

7.5 million per season. That makes me feel much better about spending 13-14 per season on Solder. I like Fulton but I thought he would be in the 2-3 million range. That is a lot of money to give to a decent starter.
Zach Fulton  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2018 10:28 am : link
to the Texans not Chiefs
bummer on fulton  
hitdog42 : 3/14/2018 10:28 am : link
leaves solider-
today should be better than yesterdays token vet RB result
RE: Zach Fulton  
adamg : 3/14/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 13864227 Jay on the Island said:
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to the Texans not Chiefs
thanks for the correction
RE: bummer on fulton  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2018 10:32 am : link
In comment 13864228 hitdog42 said:
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leaves solider-
today should be better than yesterdays token vet RB result

What have you heard about who they are interested? Any news on Mewhort, Sullivan, Fleming, Sitton, Spain?
RE: bummer on fulton  
Jon in NYC : 3/14/2018 10:39 am : link
In comment 13864228 hitdog42 said:
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leaves solider-
today should be better than yesterdays token vet RB result


Did the Giants make an offer there?
RE: RE: bummer on fulton  
hitdog42 : 3/14/2018 10:42 am : link
In comment 13864260 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 13864228 hitdog42 said:


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leaves solider-
today should be better than yesterdays token vet RB result



Did the Giants make an offer there?


not sure on that offer, but we just got our better news.
Awesome news - the OL fixing has now officially begun  
PatersonPlank : 3/14/2018 10:49 am : link
.
RE: Awesome news - the OL fixing has now officially begun  
Mr. Nickels : 3/14/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 13864325 PatersonPlank said:
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Let's keep the ball rolling and sign a couple more hog mollies and go get Barkley!
...  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2018 11:02 am : link
Solder will start at RT - Jerry Reese.
RE: ...  
adamg : 3/14/2018 11:04 am : link
In comment 13864427 Jay on the Island said:
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Solder will start at RT - Jerry Reese.
He'll compete with Flowers in camp.
RE: RE: ...  
Victor in CT : 3/14/2018 11:15 am : link
In comment 13864436 adamg said:
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In comment 13864427 Jay on the Island said:


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Solder will start at RT - Jerry Reese.

He'll compete with Flowers in camp.


too funny guys!!! but oh so true.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: According  
sshin05 : 3/14/2018 11:22 am : link
In comment 13864094 nyballa0891 said:
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In comment 13863624 BleedBlue said:


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In comment 13863613 nyballa0891



Solder is not top 10. Hes more 15-25, 13 mil a year would def be an overpay



Can we name the 14 guys better? I don't think he is average at all



Thomas
Armstead
Brown
Okung
Staley
Decker
Peters
Whitworth
Williams
Smith
Bakhtiari
Penn
Glenn
Stanley
Matthews


This is very subjective, but the scouts and talent evaluators say otherwise. And the market is set for upper end LT that are available. Most of those guys on the list arent.
Solder  
Sammo85 : 3/14/2018 11:47 am : link
is better than a lot of those guys on that list.
RE: Solder  
Breeze_94 : 3/14/2018 11:59 am : link
In comment 13864634 Sammo85 said:
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is better than a lot of those guys on that list.


Definitley better than Brown, Penn, and Glenn IMO
RE: Solder  
nyballa0891 : 3/14/2018 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13864634 Sammo85 said:
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is better than a lot of those guys on that list.


It is most definitely subjective. Im not saying Solder is a bad player, but you cannot objectively say that hes better than ALOT of the guys on the list. At least 8 are CLEARLY better
Haven't seen this mentioned yet  
Breeze_94 : 3/14/2018 12:02 pm : link
but the Giants have 18mil in cap right now.

Solder around 15 mil, Jones at 2.9 mil, Stewart 2-3mil, Martin ? but I'd guess at least 3-4 mil.

So- there HAS to be some cuts/re-structures coming today so that the Giants are compliant with the cap.

Marshall, Harris, Armstrong, possibly Jerry, and a re-structure for Ogletree all possibilities.

kudos to hitdog once again  
Eric on Li : 3/14/2018 12:17 pm : link
anything else cooking today?
RE: Haven't seen this mentioned yet  
Mr. Nickels : 3/14/2018 12:22 pm : link
In comment 13864707 Breeze_94 said:
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but the Giants have 18mil in cap right now.

Solder around 15 mil, Jones at 2.9 mil, Stewart 2-3mil, Martin ? but I'd guess at least 3-4 mil.

So- there HAS to be some cuts/re-structures coming today so that the Giants are compliant with the cap.

Marshall, Harris, Armstrong, possibly Jerry, and a re-structure for Ogletree all possibilities.



How is 18 mill not compliant?
RE: Haven't seen this mentioned yet  
Bruner4329 : 3/14/2018 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13864707 Breeze_94 said:
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but the Giants have 18mil in cap right now.

Solder around 15 mil, Jones at 2.9 mil, Stewart 2-3mil, Martin ? but I'd guess at least 3-4 mil.

So- there HAS to be some cuts/re-structures coming today so that the Giants are compliant with the cap.

Marshall, Harris, Armstrong, possibly Jerry, and a re-structure for Ogletree all possibilities.

You don't know what the cap hits are until you see the contracts. It is too early to know if Solder is $15 million this year or if they pushed out some of it to next year or later.
RE: RE: Haven't seen this mentioned yet  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2018 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13864779 Mr. Nickels said:
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In comment 13864707 Breeze_94 said:


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but the Giants have 18mil in cap right now.

Solder around 15 mil, Jones at 2.9 mil, Stewart 2-3mil, Martin ? but I'd guess at least 3-4 mil.

So- there HAS to be some cuts/re-structures coming today so that the Giants are compliant with the cap.

Marshall, Harris, Armstrong, possibly Jerry, and a re-structure for Ogletree all possibilities.





How is 18 mill not compliant?


yea, the numbers wont be known until we know contract structure. IF the giants werent under after all those deals, you would have seen harris or marshall cut....we are clearly under the cap even with those signings...
RE: RE: Haven't seen this mentioned yet  
Breeze_94 : 3/14/2018 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13864779 Mr. Nickels said:
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In comment 13864707 Breeze_94 said:


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but the Giants have 18mil in cap right now.

Solder around 15 mil, Jones at 2.9 mil, Stewart 2-3mil, Martin ? but I'd guess at least 3-4 mil.

So- there HAS to be some cuts/re-structures coming today so that the Giants are compliant with the cap.

Marshall, Harris, Armstrong, possibly Jerry, and a re-structure for Ogletree all possibilities.





How is 18 mill not compliant?


What I am saying is that the Giants only had 18 mil, and they have yet to factor in these signings. Even if the contracts are backloaded or whatever, there is still a great chance that there isn't enough cap to fit all 3 of them.
Giants outbid two teams  
shyster : 3/14/2018 1:11 pm : link
with far more cap money (Browns and Texans) to get Solder. DG had to have Mara's backing to go that high.

Cleveland beat thinks Browns' pursuit of Solder means Joe Thomas is in fact retiring. And that announcement could come today.
Joe Thomas done? - ( New Window )
be interesting to see  
hitdog42 : 3/14/2018 1:15 pm : link
if the giants are able to sign a guy from the team that stole their guard in FA.... to play guard.

might be best one left out there.
RE: be interesting to see  
bigbluehoya : 3/14/2018 1:24 pm : link
In comment 13864992 hitdog42 said:
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if the giants are able to sign a guy from the team that stole their guard in FA.... to play guard.

might be best one left out there.


Guessing this may refer to Joeckel??
Who could they sign from the Jaguars to play Guard though?  
Brown Recluse : 3/14/2018 1:28 pm : link
Patrick Omameh?
RE: RE: be interesting to see  
Amtoft : 3/14/2018 1:31 pm : link
In comment 13865040 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 13864992 hitdog42 said:


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if the giants are able to sign a guy from the team that stole their guard in FA.... to play guard.

might be best one left out there.



Guessing this may refer to Joeckel??


No I think he means... Brandon Fusco
RE: RE: RE: be interesting to see  
Brown Recluse : 3/14/2018 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13865076 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13865040 bigbluehoya said:


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In comment 13864992 hitdog42 said:


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if the giants are able to sign a guy from the team that stole their guard in FA.... to play guard.

might be best one left out there.



Guessing this may refer to Joeckel??



No I think he means... Brandon Fusco


That makes sense. I read it differently.
Why are people having so much trouble  
Mr. Bungle : 3/14/2018 2:22 pm : link
avoiding discussion on the "News Only" thread?
RE: Why are people having so much trouble  
Brown Recluse : 3/14/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13865320 Mr. Bungle said:
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avoiding discussion on the "News Only" thread?


This is the discussion thread!
RE: RE: Why are people having so much trouble  
Mr. Bungle : 3/14/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13865324 Brown Recluse said:
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In comment 13865320 Mr. Bungle said:


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avoiding discussion on the "News Only" thread?



This is the discussion thread!

I know. I'm not going to put a non-news post in the "News Only" thread.
Ebron must really suck  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/14/2018 3:24 pm : link
if he can't get past his rookie contract.
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