He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
Here's a con that's a pro. Without a threat at WR, Eli and the Giants will end up in the top 5 of the 2019 NFL draft.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
I must have missed the part where every hates him.
Yes, dump him because we typically score tons of points
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
when was the last stretch of games Eli Manning looked like an even remotely good QB without Odell Beckham as his top target... 2012? The day they get rid of Odell, they might as well send Eli packing too.
If they can get a 1st rounder for him in this draft, I'd say go for it. That would necessitate replacing the top receiving threat. However, I think this could all be part of a good rebuild for the Giants. Let's not forget, good free agent wide receives are available nearly every off season. And, it's hard to remember the last time a team won a championship with a receiver like Odell. It's much the same argument as not needing a top rb- it helps to have one but you need not have the best in the game to win.
I'll admit I was disgusted when the latest video surfaced, mostly because he is being a poor role model for kids, and the thought of trading him briefly crossed my mind along with anger at him being so stupid. He has to have lost a lot of endorsements with his behavior and damage to his image.
BUT...Lets not get crazy and trade the best player on our team... You give him a very long leash. Let's see if Shurmur/Gettleman have an impact on him this year. Or he could just get healthy, play at a high level, and I don't care what he does on social media.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
Agreed this guy is going to blow up, it's so apparent he's got problems.
Probably not the only player in the league who smokes pot and sleeps with beautiful women.
Without question the best receiver in my lifetime which stretches back to the Kyle Rote and Del Shofner era.
Real issue is contract demands.If he will not sign a reasonable contract I would try to trade him or do what the Dolphins did with Landry- let him play out his contract and then tag him and trade him.
When does it get to the point where "Enough is Enough" as Donna Summer and Barbra Streisand once sang? When should the Giants make a move and trade him?
you can't think of any pros for Beckham? Like maybe before the injury he was on pace to be one of the best WRs to ever play football? That might be a pro.
It really is a stupid question because it cannot be answered without identifying what we would get. THAT is the only determining factor... the ONLY one.
Even those who think the idea of trading him is stupid would agree to make the trade if the browns offered both #1 picks this year plus their first pick in the next two drafts.
Since he raised the topic on the FA thread and then took the feedback literally:
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Ten Ton Hammer : 2:27 pm : link : reply
In comment 13860076 Frankie in Flushing said:
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I know it hasn't been talked about, but after this last video, anyone think we should trade OBJ?
in a heartbeat....going into his 5th yr. this guy will never grow up...will just keep being the headlines for all the wrong reasons....how can u invest in a time bomb like this?.....ibeen a giant fan since 1957..never anything like this except shockey......and they finally dumped him...
How high of pick are you talking about? How high will OBJ be at the time of the trade? Are there any horse socks? You've left out a lot of key considerations.
When does it get to the point where "Enough is Enough" as Donna Summer and Barbra Streisand once sang? When should the Giants make a move and trade him?
He would have to be completely unreasonable in contract negotiations for a year or more, a complete cancer to the locker room, poor play, serious injury, commit a violent felony, he has a long way to go in my opinion.
So far I've seen his antics more as poor judgement and a public relations mess, then signs of a serious problem, the dude is emotional, competitive, and wants to win. You don't draft talent like him very often.
When does it get to the point where "Enough is Enough" as Donna Summer and Barbra Streisand once sang? When should the Giants make a move and trade him?
If we start spotting Brad Wing in the luxury box wearing his jersey.
See what I did there? Huh?
No one has brought this idea up yet, so it's good to have it come to the forefront here!
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
Here's a con that's a pro. Without a threat at WR, Eli and the Giants will end up in the top 5 of the 2019 NFL draft.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
Gotta add major coke problem to the cons list.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
The hot take could fry many eggs!
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
I must have missed the part where every hates him.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
why does the dog piss celebration annoy you?
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We will start with the Cons:
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
Gotta add major coke problem to the cons list.
But hey, Keith says so!
BUT...Lets not get crazy and trade the best player on our team... You give him a very long leash. Let's see if Shurmur/Gettleman have an impact on him this year. Or he could just get healthy, play at a high level, and I don't care what he does on social media.
He's a distraction
He tried to pee on the field
Everyone hates him
He's constantly tweeting and IG'ing
He drops too many passes
He's not a big time player(see the only game he's ever played in that matters)
He's married to an object
He's overrated
Pros:
I can't think of any
Conclusion: Addition by subtraction, just get rid of him.
Agreed this guy is going to blow up, it's so apparent he's got problems.
Without question the best receiver in my lifetime which stretches back to the Kyle Rote and Del Shofner era.
Real issue is contract demands.If he will not sign a reasonable contract I would try to trade him or do what the Dolphins did with Landry- let him play out his contract and then tag him and trade him.
Shitty taste in pizza.
Ship his ass out tomorrow for a deep dish from Chicago....
Even those who think the idea of trading him is stupid would agree to make the trade if the browns offered both #1 picks this year plus their first pick in the next two drafts.
So, there IS a price at some point for everyone.
I find that to be appalling and a major distraction for an NFL team.
Ten Ton Hammer : 2:27 pm : link : reply
In comment 13860076 Frankie in Flushing said:
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I know it hasn't been talked about, but after this last video, anyone think we should trade OBJ?
This should be it's own thread.
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Personally, "enough is enough" came for me when I saw that he may be gay.
Looking at things through the lens of information is a powerful drug. More powerful than Coke!!
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arcarsenal : 3:04 pm : link : reply
Personally, "enough is enough" came for me when I saw that he may be gay.
Looking at things through the lens of information is a powerful drug. More powerful than Coke!!
It's very frustrating to be the only one here who understands how the NFL works in a sea of peasants!!!
He would have to be completely unreasonable in contract negotiations for a year or more, a complete cancer to the locker room, poor play, serious injury, commit a violent felony, he has a long way to go in my opinion.
So far I've seen his antics more as poor judgement and a public relations mess, then signs of a serious problem, the dude is emotional, competitive, and wants to win. You don't draft talent like him very often.
I really can't tell and the last post about Donna Summer and Babs is just confounding me to no end.
Based on recent developments, would it make sense for the @jaguars to offer up a 1st and 3rd to the @giants for @OBJ_3 ?
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If we start spotting Brad Wing in the luxury box wearing his jersey.