Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
3/13/18, 6:31 AM
Former Panthers’ G Andrew Norwell intends to sign with the Jaguars on a 5-year deal for $66.5 million, including $30M fully guaranteed, source tells ESPN. He is going to become NFL’s highest paid guard - $13.3 million average.
I would definitely bring in anything I could to go head to head with Flowers though as I think that is the piece that is the biggest hangup for Eli. And should be the easiest to beat given a fair chance in camp...
The need is the entire offensive line.
But what options are out there?
The issue is that there is no one at that level to pay to play OT.
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where the money should be allocated anyway.
The need is the entire offensive line.
It's a salary cap, that means finite dollars and spend wisely.
There are few options, that doesn't mean to spend crazed.
sundayatone : 7:29 am : link : reply
due to the qb situation
Absolutely fucking amazing that this troll appears on any thread and makes it about Eli. And M.S. agreed with him!!
Guess Mr Kick Ass, isn’t so good at selling to the players. But good at tough guy talk to excite fans.
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where the money should be allocated anyway.
The issue is that there is no one at that level to pay to play OT.
Exactly. What is backing the truck up to a 30 year old (whose play is slipping) Solder going to accomplish when the team is 2-3 years away from relevance?
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Time to pony up for Pugh?
I don’t think he is in the plans.
In 26 starts at G, Pugh only allowed Eli, a statue, to be touched 5 times. By comparison blocking for Bortles will seem like a perk for Norwell .
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FA strategy and they there was no mention of other guys at any other position, offense or defense. I’m sure he and Shurmur are absolutely crushed this AM. Where/how do they go to fix this OL? It seems they’re kindda fucked.
Guess Mr Kick Ass, isn’t so good at selling to the players. But good at tough guy talk to excite fans.
ROSS!!!
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giants are not a good destination now
sundayatone : 7:29 am : link : reply
due to the qb situation
Absolutely fucking amazing that this troll appears on any thread and makes it about Eli. And M.S. agreed with him!!
if wanting to move on from eli ruins your life,please seek help.
I don’t think they would. At some point, you need to pony up for superior quality on that unit. It’s been a bottom tiered group for 5.5 years now. Norwell wouldn’t have fixed it, but he’d have absolutely been a good start, along with prudent drafting. Top guys get pad. That’s the new normal. Folks had better start accepting that.
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giants are not a good destination now
sundayatone : 7:29 am : link : reply
due to the qb situation
Absolutely fucking amazing that this troll appears on any thread and makes it about Eli. And M.S. agreed with him!!
Can this board stop being so hyper sensitive about Eli? The guy has nothing left. How many lawn darts, how many high and outside passes, how many times do we have to see him hurl himself on the ground and the slightest indication of pressure or fumble needlessly? Its okay to call a spade a spade. He's a bottom tier QB these days. It happens. Guys get old.
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FA strategy and they there was no mention of other guys at any other position, offense or defense. I’m sure he and Shurmur are absolutely crushed this AM. Where/how do they go to fix this OL? It seems they’re kindda fucked.
Stapleton also said the Giants, 49'ers and the Colts were the finalists last night. He doesn't know jack.
+1,000. Reporters have no idea what other players DG is targeting.
It sucks to lose out on Norwell but it doesn’t mean the Giants are doomed.
Not saying I agree that we should be in "win now" mode, but it is a realistic notion and it happens all the time. Just because the highest paid guard in the league has slipped through Gettlemans fingers, choosing to play for a playoff team in sunny Jacksonville FL over a shitshow cold-weather team in dirty New Jersey doesn't change that.
No thanks he can take his 10 game service somewhere else
Hyper sensitive?? A guy who literally posts about nothing but eli being pure shit chimes in a thread about Norwell with his bullshit.
An OL isn't going to sign here because Eli is the QB? Are you fucking kidding?
Then in 2 years u find your next Barkley and Darnold...
There are also a few veteran OL available that would be an upgrade from what we have, and not cost nearly as much as Norwell. Guys like Josh Sitton, Josh Kline, Senio Kelemete, etc.
No thanks on Pugh. As Rotten Apple said, he's part of the problem.
They did just trade two picks and take on salary for an expensive linebacker many feel is overpaid. It's sort of a conflict of philosophies.
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The cap situation volume of draft picks and roster deficiencies this was ALWAYS going to be a rebuild over a few years. The notion of 'win now' was not at all realistic and astonishing how many fans we've seen flag-waiving the idea.
Not saying I agree that we should be in "win now" mode, but it is a realistic notion and it happens all the time. Just because the highest paid guard in the league has slipped through Gettlemans fingers, choosing to play for a playoff team in sunny Jacksonville FL over a shitshow cold-weather team in dirty New Jersey doesn't change that.
He’ll be there by week 8 or in and out all season.
Giants are getting worse so far in FA.
He's going to be tendered, but he might be a target now.
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Can this board stop being so hyper sensitive about Eli? The guy has nothing left. How many lawn darts, how many high and outside passes, how many times do we have to see him hurl himself on the ground and the slightest indication of pressure or fumble needlessly? Its okay to call a spade a spade. He's a bottom tier QB these days. It happens. Guys get old.
Hyper sensitive?? A guy who literally posts about nothing but eli being pure shit chimes in a thread about Norwell with his bullshit.
An OL isn't going to sign here because Eli is the QB? Are you fucking kidding?
I do not think Norwell signing elsewhere is Eli's fault (more to do with $, tax implications and the opportunity to win). But I do think this board is not honest with themselves in terms of what they see with our QB.
Look at how it polarizes fans who want to draft a QB and get moving forward, and how many want to trade down to pick Nelson and have multiple picks to spend on the OL in the second round of the draft.
In the end, the fact we're only one of 32 teams and there's not a ton of resources available for change means it could be short UFA season without a ton of help arriving until the draft.
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The cap situation volume of draft picks and roster deficiencies this was ALWAYS going to be a rebuild over a few years. The notion of 'win now' was not at all realistic and astonishing how many fans we've seen flag-waiving the idea.
Not saying I agree that we should be in "win now" mode, but it is a realistic notion and it happens all the time. Just because the highest paid guard in the league has slipped through Gettlemans fingers, choosing to play for a playoff team in sunny Jacksonville FL over a shitshow cold-weather team in dirty New Jersey doesn't change that.
Yes, it can happen. But when you look at the number of deficiencies this team has and lack of resources to turn around a quick fix, how would anyone rationally EXPECT it? Maybe they will hit on a lot of late picks and the turnaround will happen quicker, but having that as the expectation is not at all realistic. Just because something can happen doesn't mean it will. Its like building your plan around hope on a long shot -just not very sensible.
A quick fix doesn't mean you fill every single hole and weakness in one season. It means you fill enough holes to make your team competitive and playoff-ready. The Giants can certainly do that *if* they choose to go that route. And you do that with due diligence. The pieces are always out there. It just takes a front office that is capable of putting them together. Reese always talked about how they "look at everyone" but I think he was full of shit. If they did look at everyone, they didn't look very hard. Its probably a more realistic scenario now than it would have been had Norwell signed here, financially speaking at least.
Look at how it polarizes fans who want to draft a QB and get moving forward, and how many want to trade down to pick Nelson and have multiple picks to spend on the OL in the second round of the draft.
In the end, the fact we're only one of 32 teams and there's not a ton of resources available for change means it could be short UFA season without a ton of help arriving until the draft.
Great post. Some people fail to realize the Giants are just one of 32 teams trying to get better in UFA. A team ith bottom half cap space at that.
Then in 2 years u find your next Barkley and Darnold...
I see your point, but problem with this is that teams spend decades looking for the franchise qb. They don't fall in laps like they did this year for us. Not that any of the qbs this year is a franchise one but the chance is there.
The Vikings had two centers in 2016 season – Joe Berger and Nick Easton – and moved both of them to guards. They drafted center Pat Elflein in the third round. They used free agency to bring in bookend tackles Riley Reiff and Mike Remmers.
Of all the questions the Vikings had on offense, while it didn’t get much in the way of attention, there was no bigger cause for internal concern as to how the incredibly new-look O-line would hold up.
The Vikings have had their share of injuries as well in 2017. Reiff has missed time. Mike Remmers has missed time. Easton has missed three games.
So if the Vikings could do this all in one season, why can't the Giants?
I was going to say this..
Online is going to take awhile to rebuild anyway..
Go sign Malcolm butler, Orlando scandrick and Nigel bradham...
Of course its important, but how important is what's being debated. Its a far less valuable and premium position than others. I'd rather have solid Guard play at less than half that cost and spend big on premium players at premium positions.
I'm not upset we didn't get Norwell. Time to move on and get creative, which I trust DG will be able to do a hell of a lot better than Reese was.
But you need some success stories from the UDFA market on that line de certain. Even small ones...
The difference in my mind between DG and Reese is that DG has consistently found good OL talent, and I trust that he'll be able to.
Is it just poor luck, poor timing, or the hell of mediocrity?