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PTraina says the NYG have “interest” in Steelers RT Hubbard

Defenderdawg : 3/13/2018 11:25 am
Patricia Traina (@Patricia_Traina)
3/13/18, 11:22 AM
FWIW, I've heard the Giants have an interest in Steelers UFA OL Chris Hubbard.
Good value  
ryanmkeane : 3/13/2018 11:26 am : link
add if we can get him on the cheap. Starting RT potential
Good  
Jay on the Island : 3/13/2018 11:27 am : link
I have been a big supporter of signing Hubbard as he can start at both guard and RT.
I don't think the Steelers plan  
ATL_Giants : 3/13/2018 11:27 am : link
on letting Hubbard leave.

But here's to wishful thinking.
RE: I don't think the Steelers plan  
Jay on the Island : 3/13/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 13861717 ATL_Giants said:
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on letting Hubbard leave.

But here's to wishful thinking.

They are too close to the cap to keep him. He would be a reserve again with the return of Gilbert.
Plan B  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/13/2018 11:28 am : link
for a Plan B team.
I like Hubbard  
Rjanyg : 3/13/2018 11:28 am : link
He could play RT or RG, I would prefer him at RT unless they go after Fleming for RT.
I wonder if they're interested in him  
Andy in Boston : 3/13/2018 11:28 am : link
at Left Guard. He seems small to play RT.
Good  
Breeze_94 : 3/13/2018 11:29 am : link
He'd be an upgrade
With  
Jon in NYC : 3/13/2018 11:30 am : link
limited starting experience this could be a bargain. These are the guys we should be taking fliers on.
RE: I wonder if they're interested in him  
Jay on the Island : 3/13/2018 11:31 am : link
In comment 13861729 Andy in Boston said:
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at Left Guard. He seems small to play RT.

He can play both guard spots and RT. He is a very good young offensive linemen who gets the most of his ability. He is not the most talented offensive lineman but he is a hard worker who plays well.
JAG.  
est1986 : 3/13/2018 11:32 am : link
boy this sucks.
RE: Plan B  
jvm52106 : 3/13/2018 11:35 am : link
In comment 13861724 Dave in Hoboken said:
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for a Plan B team.


So plan C...
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est1986 : 3/13/2018 11:35 am : link
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Giants current starting OL from left to right: Ereck Flowers, John Jerry, Brett Jones, Jon Halapio, Chad Wheeler. John Greco and Adam Bisnowaty options too.
They better have more than an interest  
blueblood : 3/13/2018 11:35 am : link
they better be working on a deal..
RE: ...  
mphbullet36 : 3/13/2018 11:36 am : link
In comment 13861754 est1986 said:
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Giants current starting OL from left to right: Ereck Flowers, John Jerry, Brett Jones, Jon Halapio, Chad Wheeler. John Greco and Adam Bisnowaty options too.



woof
RE: JAG.  
Joey in VA : 3/13/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 13861743 est1986 said:
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boy this sucks.
we barely have those on the roster right now. We actually need a lot more JAG types who have proven NFL value. This isn't exciting but it's the nasty medicine we need.
The Giants OL  
Emil : 3/13/2018 11:40 am : link
is so far below average, that even Plan B players are a significant upgrade.

It sucks missing out on Norwell, but one player was never going to fix this OL, and there is no doubt Gettleman is well aware of that.
Just because Hubbard isn't an all pro like Norwell  
Jay on the Island : 3/13/2018 11:42 am : link
Doesn't mean he isn't a good player. He would be a big upgrade at two spots for the Giants.
He  
cokeduplt : 3/13/2018 11:42 am : link
Would be a quality signing depending on the price. We need several O lineman this would be a good start
A buddy of mine is an extremely knowledgeable Steeler fan  
aimrocky : 3/13/2018 11:48 am : link
and he said Hubbard is real good. He stepped in for Gilbert and outplayed him.

Steelers opted to go back to Gilbert and let Hubbard walk. This would be a quality, low cost signing.
At least it's not L. Ron Hubbard  
jeff57 : 3/13/2018 11:52 am : link
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Guys  
Dragon : 3/13/2018 11:54 am : link
This guy has started 14 games in four years 10 last year but he lacks size don't waste money because plan A blows up in your face.
RE: Guys  
cokeduplt : 3/13/2018 11:56 am : link
In comment 13861842 Dragon said:
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This guy has started 14 games in four years 10 last year but he lacks size don't waste money because plan A blows up in your face.


How would it be a waste he played well last year and we have no one
if we pay 4-5 million for Hubbard fine  
Essex : 3/13/2018 11:56 am : link
but we shouldn't overpay for him. He was a backup in Pittsbrugh
RE: if we pay 4-5 million for Hubbard fine  
Brown Recluse : 3/13/2018 11:57 am : link
In comment 13861854 Essex said:
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but we shouldn't overpay for him. He was a backup in Pittsbrugh


Makes sense. Not.
6’4” 286?  
WillVAB : 3/13/2018 12:05 pm : link
Is that right? Doesn’t seem to fit the “hog mollie” mold.
Oh we are going to pay all right  
NikkiMac : 3/13/2018 12:06 pm : link
.
from the Steelers board - this would be a solid pickup  
OdellBeckhamJr : 3/13/2018 12:06 pm : link
good run blocker decent pass protector, he'd be a starter on a lot of teams but this is a cap casualty for them
RE: from the Steelers board - this would be a solid pickup  
Essex : 3/13/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13861895 OdellBeckhamJr said:
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good run blocker decent pass protector, he'd be a starter on a lot of teams but this is a cap casualty for them

This board two years ago had Richburg headed for Canton
Here we go  
superspynyg : 3/13/2018 12:09 pm : link
reaching again. He is the Steelers BACKUP OL the last 2 years. and we are gonna pay him as a starter.

RE: Here we go  
Jay on the Island : 3/13/2018 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13861904 superspynyg said:
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reaching again. He is the Steelers BACKUP OL the last 2 years. and we are gonna pay him as a starter.

The Browns had a terrible offensive line and Shaun O'Hara was just a backup there. When he has played Hubbard has been very solid for Pittsburgh. The truth is he would be an upgrade at both guard and RT for the Giants. The versatility just adds to his value.
The market is pretty slim to begin with....  
Simms11 : 3/13/2018 12:14 pm : link
We need linemen and so call it what you will, but we have to do something to put a line together. IMO, there will be 2 high draft picks used on the Oline. We have to do a better job in the draft. That's Reese's biggest failure.
RE: The market is pretty slim to begin with....  
The_Boss : 3/13/2018 12:18 pm : link
In comment 13861919 Simms11 said:
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We need linemen and so call it what you will, but we have to do something to put a line together. IMO, there will be 2 high draft picks used on the Oline. We have to do a better job in the draft. That's Reese's biggest failure.


I call it Dumpster Diving for OL help. I've been calling it that for 6 years now. Some things never change.
The Giants having interest in Hubbard  
fivehead : 3/13/2018 12:18 pm : link
guarantees that Hubbard will not play for the Giants any time soon.
Didn't the Vikes  
Kevin in Annapolis : 3/13/2018 12:19 pm : link
build a pretty decent (very good) line by adding a few players at this level last year?
RE: RE: The market is pretty slim to begin with....  
Jay on the Island : 3/13/2018 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13861935 The_Boss said:
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In comment 13861919 Simms11 said:


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We need linemen and so call it what you will, but we have to do something to put a line together. IMO, there will be 2 high draft picks used on the Oline. We have to do a better job in the draft. That's Reese's biggest failure.



I call it Dumpster Diving for OL help. I've been calling it that for 6 years now. Some things never change.

Spending a top 10 pick on an OT and another on guard plus a 2nd round pick on Richburg is dumpster diving? Sure they picked the wrong players but that isn't dumpster diving.

That’s the thing about this OL  
PetesHereNow : 3/13/2018 12:21 pm : link
Average would be an upgrade.
any 5 signings  
NYG007 : 3/13/2018 12:30 pm : link
are an upgrade folks
I wouldn't know Chris Hubbard from Ron Hubbard  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/13/2018 12:32 pm : link
So I'll defer to people who have seen him play/Steeler fans.
If we don't sign Solder . Pugh  
idiotsavant : 3/13/2018 12:45 pm : link
Is an option at olt while we also look to the draft.
Hubbard  
Archer : 3/13/2018 12:55 pm : link
I was reading that Hubbard is a flexible player who can play all (5) OL positions. He is ,however, a smaller player.

He is definitely not a "Hog Mollie", at 295# he is more of a finesse blocker and works best in a zone blocking scheme.

He does not seem like the type of player the Giants are looking for. Norwell was the type of player that they were seeking.

Not certain who fits the mold that they are seeking.
I have a feeling that the line rebuild will take a couple of years, and the players will come from the draft.



RE: RE: ...  
robbieballs2003 : 3/13/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13861759 mphbullet36 said:
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Giants current starting OL from left to right: Ereck Flowers, John Jerry, Brett Jones, Jon Halapio, Chad Wheeler. John Greco and Adam Bisnowaty options too.





woof


RE: Hubbard  
GFAN52 : 3/13/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13862054 Archer said:
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I was reading that Hubbard is a flexible player who can play all (5) OL positions. He is ,however, a smaller player.

He is definitely not a "Hog Mollie", at 295# he is more of a finesse blocker and works best in a zone blocking scheme.

He does not seem like the type of player the Giants are looking for. Norwell was the type of player that they were seeking.

Not certain who fits the mold that they are seeking.
I have a feeling that the line rebuild will take a couple of years, and the players will come from the draft.




Yeah, he's undersized as a tackle. His body is probably more suited to guard.
RE: Hubbard  
Breeze_94 : 3/13/2018 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13862054 Archer said:
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I was reading that Hubbard is a flexible player who can play all (5) OL positions. He is ,however, a smaller player.

He is definitely not a "Hog Mollie", at 295# he is more of a finesse blocker and works best in a zone blocking scheme.

He does not seem like the type of player the Giants are looking for. Norwell was the type of player that they were seeking.

Not certain who fits the mold that they are seeking.
I have a feeling that the line rebuild will take a couple of years, and the players will come from the draft.




I don't think Gettleman is talking about a guys size when he says hog mollie. I think its more of a general term for OL who can flat out play regardless of their size. Hubbard had some nasty blocks in the running game for Pitt last year.
Hubbard Film vs Packers  
EddieNYG : 3/13/2018 1:01 pm : link
via YouTube...
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RE: Hubbard  
GuzzaBlue : 3/13/2018 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13862054 Archer said:
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I was reading that Hubbard is a flexible player who can play all (5) OL positions. He is ,however, a smaller player.

He is definitely not a "Hog Mollie", at 295# he is more of a finesse blocker and works best in a zone blocking scheme.

He does not seem like the type of player the Giants are looking for. Norwell was the type of player that they were seeking.

Not certain who fits the mold that they are seeking.
I have a feeling that the line rebuild will take a couple of years, and the players will come from the draft.




These are exactly the types of players the Giants need right now. He may not be the biggest or strongest, but he is effective. With the disaster the line is in now and guys that are already projects (Flowers, Fluker, Wheeler). We need EFFECTIVE football players. Forget the measurements. Guys who can get the job done who we don't have to break the bank for.
interest doesn't mean building block  
GiantsFan84 : 3/13/2018 1:19 pm : link
this could just be someone they view as a good option in the current market for a year or two while they look for their long term answer
There is nothing wrong with signing backups...  
Dan in the Springs : 3/13/2018 2:11 pm : link
as mentioned, O'Hara was exactly that type of player. Ron Stone was a backup in Dallas. David Diehl was not considered a "blue goose" LT and it had been said that you cannot win a SB with David Diehl as your starting LT.

You have to find guys who can come over cheaply, which means you are not signing prime free agents. There is talent out there but I think a lot of BBI will be disappointed at the names that come out. It reminds me a lot of how some people complained about Antonio Pierce when he was signed. Guys like Pierce and O'Hara win you SB's.

I'm excited to have Gettleman in charge of our FA. I feel like he did very well for us when he was in charge of Pro Personnel back in the day. With Abrams at his side I'm confident the numbers will work out.
I like gettleman also. And believe we should wait and see and  
idiotsavant : 3/13/2018 2:25 pm : link
And that they will do stuff good for the team.fun stuff. And sensible stuff.

.But I'm also a bit surprised how many fans here are stepping in here to justify Hubbard. I mean, is that our job? To make every move seem like it's a great move?

Why?
RE: They better have more than an interest  
mrvax : 3/13/2018 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13861756 blueblood said:
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they better be working on a deal..


This. With limited cap and many holes to plug, this should at least help the transition to a solid team. It's going to take another 1 or 2 years though. And patience.
He weighs about 286 lbs...  
George from PA : 3/13/2018 3:04 pm : link
Not exactly, the hog mollie that DG described.....but for a back up tackle....not bad.

So depends on $$$$
UDFA  
Dragon : 3/13/2018 3:16 pm : link
Can come in and play two or three positions at 6-4, 310 and cost you nothing.
Super- everyone wants the "names". and at  
Dave on the UWS : 3/13/2018 3:37 pm : link
14 mil per, that would be 60 million for the OL alone! All kidding aside, spotting under utilized talent and "building" a team is the way to go. DG has been good at it, and Reese was awful at it for a very long time. This guy is exactly the type of guy to zone in on. Has been a backup and when given the chance played well and is now a cap casualty. A couple of these types, get better play out of Flowers, draft 1 or 2 guys that can step in and you have a decent OL.
RE: That’s the thing about this OL  
smshmth8690 : 3/13/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13861948 PetesHereNow said:
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Average would be an upgrade.


True, even at LB & RB.
RE: RE: Hubbard  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/13/2018 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13862079 Breeze_94 said:
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In comment 13862054 Archer said:


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I was reading that Hubbard is a flexible player who can play all (5) OL positions. He is ,however, a smaller player.

He is definitely not a "Hog Mollie", at 295# he is more of a finesse blocker and works best in a zone blocking scheme.

He does not seem like the type of player the Giants are looking for. Norwell was the type of player that they were seeking.

Not certain who fits the mold that they are seeking.
I have a feeling that the line rebuild will take a couple of years, and the players will come from the draft.






I don't think Gettleman is talking about a guys size when he says hog mollie. I think its more of a general term for OL who can flat out play regardless of their size. Hubbard had some nasty blocks in the running game for Pitt last year.

That's how I interpreted it as well. Somehow people took it to mean big even for a big guy, but I think what DG was getting at is simply that the game is won and lost in the trenches and you need quality linemen in general.
RE: RE: The market is pretty slim to begin with....  
old man : 3/13/2018 5:42 pm : link
In comment 13861935 The_Boss said:
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In comment 13861919 Simms11 said:


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We need linemen and so call it what you will, but we have to do something to put a line together. IMO, there will be 2 high draft picks used on the Oline. We have to do a better job in the draft. That's Reese's biggest failure.

For JR that was by choice; this is out of necessity because JR blew ops in the draft.



I call it Dumpster Diving for OL help. I've been calling it that for 6 years now. Some things never change.
...  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 6:04 pm : link
he is signing with browns, unpin lmao
the market is slim for "known " players  
Dave on the UWS : 3/13/2018 7:55 pm : link
And since as fans we only know names we are not giving DG his due. Did anyone know Norwell before DG since him in Carolina? I bet not. The guys he signs will probably not be household names. Let's try to be patient.
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