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If Bills trade up to #3, can Browns pass on a QB #1

bumpsinthenight : 3/13/2018 3:28 pm
If the Bills do move up it will be for a QB.

If the Browns take an RB at #1, it probably means they get the third best QB available, with the Giants taking a QB or even trading out to another team that would be moving up to get a QB.

The question is can they afford to do that after passing on Watson last year?
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Why would the Bills  
pjcas18 : 3/13/2018 3:31 pm : link
trade up to #3 now, why wouldn't the Bills wait until the draft and do it when the Colts are on the clock?

Do most trade ups like this get announced in advance if they don't involve players?

Point is the Browns may not know at #1 if the Bills are actually going to trade up to #3.
Good question in theory  
Giants in 07 : 3/13/2018 3:32 pm : link
But unlikely they would make that move to 3 before the 1st pick, no?
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giants#1 : 3/13/2018 3:33 pm : link
Doubt Bills trade up for a QB until they are sure the guy they want is still on the board at that point.

If the Browns really want Barkley *and* want to make sure they get their preferred QB, they certainly have the assets to entice DG.
RE: Why would the Bills  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13862524 pjcas18 said:
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trade up to #3 now, why wouldn't the Bills wait until the draft and do it when the Colts are on the clock?

Do most trade ups like this get announced in advance if they don't involve players?

Point is the Browns may not know at #1 if the Bills are actually going to trade up to #3.


ONLY way i could see this is if they LOVE TWO QBs...barkley will go 1 or 2, so bills would get a top 2 QB in the draft....honestly, if barkley isnt there for us, i want to move back to 4-8 and pick up some more picks including a 2018 second rounder...move back to 5 and take a QB or fitzpatrick and with both second rounders go OL...maybe kolton miller and hernandez
Agreed that they likely would wait until draft for this trade  
Kevin in Annapolis : 3/13/2018 3:34 pm : link
but didn't the Eagles trade up to 2 before the draft for Wentz?
Iím pretty confident the Browns select a QB with their 1st regardless  
GFAN52 : 3/13/2018 3:34 pm : link
Then they could snap up Barkley at 4 if heís there.
The Eagles  
ryanmkeane : 3/13/2018 3:39 pm : link
made that trade about a week before the draft.
RE: Good question in theory  
bumpsinthenight : 3/13/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13862527 Giants in 07 said:
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But unlikely they would make that move to 3 before the 1st pick, no?


Ok if you're Browns, prior to the Bills getting all this trade up ammo, you were assured at least top #2 of the QBs (which has been a 50/50 boom or bust for one of the two of late) but know you know if you pass the Bills can leapfrog you at 4 to get second of the two top QBs.

I guess I'm asking are the Browns ok with the #3 QB? They Need a QB, why not just get your guy at #1.
RE: Agreed that they likely would wait until draft for this trade  
pjcas18 : 3/13/2018 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13862533 Kevin in Annapolis said:
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but didn't the Eagles trade up to 2 before the draft for Wentz?


Yes, good point, but that was right after the Rams traded up to #1, so it's slightly different in that 2016 was a "2 QB draft" and it was widely assumed they'd go #1/#2.

This year is wide open and I don't think team know who is going to be taken when with Barkley the QB's and other players all in that tier. I think it's too wide open. Just my opinion.
Eagles traded up to 2 only after receiving assurance  
jlukes : 3/13/2018 3:43 pm : link
that STL was going Goff at 1
The Browns are taking their QB at 1  
LI NHB : 3/13/2018 3:45 pm : link
and anything else would be poppycock.
Browns need a good young QB  
mrvax : 3/13/2018 3:48 pm : link
prospect. If they are dumb enough to wait until #4 to take him, the team, not the fans, should continue to be a losing POS team.
RE: Eagles traded up to 2 only after receiving assurance  
bumpsinthenight : 3/13/2018 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13862565 jlukes said:
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that STL was going Goff at 1

Don't remember the assurances but make sense looking back after Rams traded up, the obviously had a target.

I just don't see how the Browns can 'get cute' again, and not just take their guy at QB #1.
I think the Browns know that picks 2&3 are  
George from PA : 3/13/2018 3:49 pm : link
Going QB.


If not the Bills, they must assume the Jets, Denver, whoever....

So they must be happy with one of the top 3 QBs (unlikely) or trade up from their 4th, which is looking more and more likely.
RE: Why would the Bills  
superspynyg : 3/13/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13862524 pjcas18 said:
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trade up to #3 now, why wouldn't the Bills wait until the draft and do it when the Colts are on the clock?

Do most trade ups like this get announced in advance if they don't involve players?

Point is the Browns may not know at #1 if the Bills are actually going to trade up to #3.


Why did the Eagles trade up the week before. If you can secure the trade before draft time when other offers may intensify you do if or you risk losing out.
Brown's will elect QB at 1  
ZogZerg : 3/13/2018 4:03 pm : link
They have to.
RE: RE: Why would the Bills  
pjcas18 : 3/13/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13862589 superspynyg said:
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In comment 13862524 pjcas18 said:


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trade up to #3 now, why wouldn't the Bills wait until the draft and do it when the Colts are on the clock?

Do most trade ups like this get announced in advance if they don't involve players?

Point is the Browns may not know at #1 if the Bills are actually going to trade up to #3.



Why did the Eagles trade up the week before. If you can secure the trade before draft time when other offers may intensify you do if or you risk losing out.


yes, fair point, addressed above.

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Yes, good point, but that was right after the Rams traded up to #1, so it's slightly different in that 2016 was a "2 QB draft" and it was widely assumed they'd go #1/#2.

This year is wide open and I don't think team know who is going to be taken when with Barkley the QB's and other players all in that tier. I think it's too wide open. Just my opinion.
No  
Thinblueline : 3/13/2018 4:19 pm : link
It is thier biggest need and the most important position.. They WILL take the QB they covet at 1... Barkley will not be taken with the first pick..
Maybe they want Mayfield  
Tony in Berlin : 3/13/2018 4:26 pm : link
and are sure they can get him at #4.
No way Browns pass on Qb at 1  
GuzzaBlue : 3/13/2018 4:33 pm : link
unless they love 3 of the QBs. I just don't see it. It is the Browns, but after all the scrutiny finding a QB, if they only like Darnold and Allen or Darnold and Rosen, there is no way they go Barkley at 1. They are taking the QB. I think despite what the rumors are, they are content not getting Barkley and going with the QB at 1 and then Chubb, Fitpatrick or another building block piece. Also, can hope Barkley will fall to 4.

If they land Darnold, Chubb and then Price or Guice or any guys that fall in their lap in rd 2, that is a fantastic draft and way to kick off the rebuild.
Those types of deals generally  
Beer Man : 3/13/2018 5:19 pm : link
don't occur until draft day
What happens if the Bills want  
Giant John : 3/13/2018 5:40 pm : link
The running back?
RE: What happens if the Bills want  
ZogZerg : 3/13/2018 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13862826 Giant John said:
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The running back?


Then they are dumber than the browns.
If the Browns take a QB #1  
RobCrossRiver56 : 3/13/2018 8:08 pm : link
a run on the QB's could occur and Barkley still be there for them at #4
Bills Want Allen  
nflscouting : 3/13/2018 9:14 pm : link
He's been their target all along. Dorsey likes Mayfield & Darnold, but the cement is drying on Barkley at #1. It will be interesting to see if Gettleman pops on Nelson at #2 or tries to play poker with a few QB needy teams.
Notice the FA QB trend - 1, 2 or 3-year deals. Big bucks, but shows teams not interested in mortgaging cap space in the future.
Oh, one thing to NOT say when talking to reporters about Cousins - on Vikings brass explaining the 3-year deal said that when it ends, they can always "tag" him!
RE: Brown's will elect QB at 1  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/13/2018 9:19 pm : link
In comment 13862617 ZogZerg said:
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They have to.


No, they donít. Barkley is the best player in the draft
RE: If the Browns take a QB #1  
GFAN52 : 3/13/2018 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13863272 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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a run on the QB's could occur and Barkley still be there for them at #4


Been saying this for a while. Browns have a very good chance of coming with the best QB and best RB.
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