Breer: NYG in on Solder

actually just saw it and posted in the discussion thread

pin it mods. this could be a nice signing

I hope they get this one.

I feel like I've seen this show before.

14 mill per? more?

they have already signed Zach Fulton and Seantrel Henderson but they need 3 or 4 starters

Beep....beep....beep....beep


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Waving yellow flag....everybody step back...

and that we aren't going to overpay an OT on the wrong side of 30 who is coming off a down season.

an upgrade, for sure, but it better not be an expensive one or I would pass.

no other upgrade at LT is avalible in FA or in the draft

Look at it like this. If jpp or Vernon dogs it this year, you can easily find cap space next year. ;-)

how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL

In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:

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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL

+100

In comment 13862795 Essex said:

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an upgrade, for sure, but it better not be an expensive one or I would pass.

He’s better than average and of course he will be expensive. If the medicals check out I’d rather pay for him than a Guard.

but I wanted Solder more than Norwell

In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:

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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL

Solder has never been as good as whitworth.

Is that he has been well coached on the line. That must be contagious. Help bring cohesion up front, explain stuff to newbs.

Also. Appears to dovetail with the draft - in its supply of guards.

Whitworth was 5 or 6 years older. Good for him that he’s still playing at a high level at his age but the Giants didn’t want to take the risk, atleast it made sense.

In comment 13862805 Jon in NYC said:

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In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said: Quote: how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL Solder has never been as good as whitworth.

jon, it doesnt matter....people wanted to pass on whitworth because of age and cost....exactly why people are complaining about solder...

the 8th-12th best LT in the league. Flowers is somewhere in the upper 20's or 30's. Huge upgrade. We are seeing LT's play well into their 30's (Peters, Whitworth, Thomas).

At the very worst, we get a solid LT who we can trust to protect Eli or our young QB's blindside and a definite upgrade at probably the 2nd most important position on offense. I'd be willing to pay 12 or 13mil for him. Anything more than that is no bueno.

;)

In comment 13862801 adamg said:

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In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said: Quote: how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL +100

are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.

In comment 13862807 UConn4523 said:

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Whitworth was 5 or 6 years older. Good for him that he’s still playing at a high level at his age but the Giants didn’t want to take the risk, atleast it made sense.

for what its worth, i didnt really want him either, but my point was people passed him because of age and money

In comment 13862813 Essex said:

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In comment 13862801 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said: Quote: how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL +100 are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.

dude NOBODY is saying solder=whitworth im simply saying BBI hasnt necessarily been spot on with these LT potential signings thats all

he leaves New England.

But I took the Ranaan tweet to mean they were waiting on the OL chips (Solder) to fall meaning they want the market set, and then making a move on the other remaining OL FA's.

In comment 13862813 Essex said:

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In comment 13862801 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said: Quote: how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL +100 are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.

dude NOBODY is saying solder=whitworth im simply saying BBI hasnt necessarily been spot on with these LT potential signings thats all

Not worth the $ it will take.

In comment 13862809 Breeze_94 said:

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the 8th-12th best LT in the league. Flowers is somewhere in the upper 20's or 30's. Huge upgrade. We are seeing LT's play well into their 30's (Peters, Whitworth, Thomas). At the very worst, we get a solid LT who we can trust to protect Eli or our young QB's blindside and a definite upgrade at probably the 2nd most important position on offense. I'd be willing to pay 12 or 13mil for him. Anything more than that is no bueno.

+1 agree

Tom Curran (NBCSN Boston) said on Periscope that Solder will not be taking any visits yet and would like to stay in New England, market is probably 12-13mil a year.

More than they needed a OG. Solder isn't Ogden or Pace, but he is solid, and would certainly be an upgrade over what the Giants have had.

He will give a big discount to stay with the Patriots.

barely adequate. Would he be an upgrade? Yes but at what cost? Eli's blind side would still be a weak point. I don't trust the beat writers. I think most of this is speculation. I would expect this to be DG doing his due diligence.

those who are not pleased with how things are going today, but signing a quality starting LT is an absolute must. Even more so than an all-pro OG in Norwell.

The problem with the Giants roster is the product of years of horrendous drafting. As a result, the Giants are not going to be able to FA their way out of this. The hole is too deep. What they can do is use their money wisely to fill critical holes. A start LT is one, a reliable veteran RB is another, another legit NFL caliber WR is one more. No doubt fixing the roster is going to be a long process, but if the Giants have a middle of the road OL next year, a Flanker (X WR) to work opposite OBJ, and an above average ground game, there is no reason why the team can't improve to at least 500. I know, big deal, but you have to start somewhere. The organization needs to get the culture of winning back.

In comment 13862813 Essex said:

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In comment 13862801 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said: Quote: how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL +100 are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.

I was one of the earliest proponents of signing Whitworth as early as November '16. Many posters deserve to be called out for being a proponent of Solder, but being against Whitworth. Whitworth is a prototypical LT. Solder will likely sign a similiar deal whether it is here or elsewhere. If he signs here, there will be many that will herald it as great signing. But a year ago, Whitworth wasn't worth the money. Bunch of hypocrites ...

Improving 2/3 spots.

But I suspect still a major long shot

Lets get this done.

Doubt he's leaving NE.

In comment 13862918 Blue21 said:

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Doubt he's leaving NE.

This^^^

if the price is right, but I don't see him leaving NE.

But he is an upgrade, still hopefully has a few good years left, and he is a true Left Tackle on a roster that doesn't have that guy on it right now. At the very least, he is a solid option who buys us time to groom a young Left Tackle from this years draft class or next years (more realistic).

In comment 13862918 Blue21 said:

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Doubt he's leaving NE.

+2

The LT problem is the hardest to solve. We need to work with Wheeler and any draftees to think about a back up LT and the future.

We can get guards and maybe even RT more easily.

See if Flowers can play anything OK.

calculates Solder at Avg. Salary: $13,280,758.
That would be great.
Fingers crossed.

I bet he strikes out again

because Scarnecchia is such a savant at building an oline.

Solder has talent, but is he a beneficiary of Scarnecchia's wizardry...?

crap shoot on ol

this is really going to be hard for them get the right pieces or fixing the ol this upcoming year.

may have to hit on maybe 1 or 2 serviceable offensive linemen and fill or piece in rest and hope for best.

In comment 13862940 est1986 said:

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I bet he strikes out again

It's not like DG can force a player to sign with the Giants where they are looking for more money, or whether they don't want to leave their current team.

In comment 13862940 est1986 said:

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I bet he strikes out again

You’re the worst

but this guy has the pedigree, proven he can preform at the highest levels and has shown some durability.

locking him up for 13 + mill over the next 3-4 years is money well spent imo. if you also consider our need at T, the lack of options in FA and the draft's depth at guard; this becomes more and more attractive.

Get it done, DG.

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In comment 13862940 est1986 said: Quote: I bet he strikes out again You’re the worst

Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Wait until you see how bad he fucks up the draft.

In comment 13862813 Essex said:

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In comment 13862801 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said: Quote: how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL +100 are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.

Easy killers. No where in that comment did he say Solder was Whitworth. What hes saying is that if you pass on the only guy avqilqble youre flipping retarded. Its not about Whitworth vs Solder,its about Flowers vs Solder lol. Comeon guys make a wee bit of sense huh?

In comment 13862988 est1986 said:

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In comment 13862968 McNally's_Nuts said: Quote: In comment 13862940 est1986 said: Quote: I bet he strikes out again You’re the worst Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Wait until you see how bad he fucks up the draft.

Some of you are so positive that it’s amazing that you make it through the day without jumping off a bridge. Relax and let the offseason play out.

To either overpay, or go in with what you have. How did that work out last year geniuses?

In comment 13863003 PetesHereNow said:

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In comment 13862988 est1986 said: Quote: In comment 13862968 McNally's_Nuts said: Quote: In comment 13862940 est1986 said: Quote: I bet he strikes out again You’re the worst Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Wait until you see how bad he fucks up the draft. Some of you are so positive that it’s amazing that you make it through the day without jumping off a bridge. Relax and let the offseason play out.

+1

And will be extremely overpaid. Pass

In comment 13863007 sharpshooter66 said:

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To either overpay, or go in with what you have. How did that work out last year geniuses?

They could have found the fountain of youth for Anthony Munoz last year, and still had a horrible season. The entire WR position was decimated by injury, and McAdoo’s system sucked.

Going into next season with Flowers at LT again lol

In comment 13862988 est1986 said:

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In comment 13862968 McNally's_Nuts said: Quote: In comment 13862940 est1986 said: Quote: I bet he strikes out again You’re the worst Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Wait until you see how bad he fucks up the draft.

Hopefully you’ll be banned by then. Whiny little bitch troll

In comment 13863016 PetesHereNow said:

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In comment 13863007 sharpshooter66 said: Quote: To either overpay, or go in with what you have. How did that work out last year geniuses? They could have found the fountain of youth for Anthony Munoz last year, and still had a horrible season. The entire WR position was decimated by injury, and McAdoo’s system sucked.

Ok so we got a new coach. The offseason is over lets go win 10 games next year with no changes to the OL

In comment 13863017 sharpshooter66 said:

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Going into next season with Flowers at LT again lol

I severely doubt that will be the case. When you consider that Gettleman spent his whole press conference talking about the OL and getting some hog mollys, he’s going to make changes. Whether those changes work out, that remains to be seen.

In comment 13863028 PetesHereNow said:

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In comment 13863017 sharpshooter66 said: Quote: Going into next season with Flowers at LT again lol I severely doubt that will be the case. When you consider that Gettleman spent his whole press conference talking about the OL and getting some hog mollys, he’s going to make changes. Whether those changes work out, that remains to be seen.

Im referring to the geniuses on here who claim every one available is either too old or too expensive.

In comment 13863034 sharpshooter66 said:

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In comment 13863028 PetesHereNow said: Quote: In comment 13863017 sharpshooter66 said: Quote: Going into next season with Flowers at LT again lol I severely doubt that will be the case. When you consider that Gettleman spent his whole press conference talking about the OL and getting some hog mollys, he’s going to make changes. Whether those changes work out, that remains to be seen. Im referring to the geniuses on here who claim every one available is either too old or too expensive.

Happens every year. If we don’t sign the equivalent of LT in his prime within the first 3 minutes of free agency, this place becomes Arkham Asylum.

We will have to overpay to get him to come to the Giants.
Solder had an outstanding second half of the year. He was terrific in the playoffs.
Would be a big upgrade over EF.

If they have to overpay, so be it.

In comment 13863017 sharpshooter66 said:

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Going into next season with Flowers at LT again lol

Today is the 1st day of FA not the last day of training camp, take a deep breath, things will get done. Just relax.

Thankfully we didn't get Norwell. too many holes to fill to spend on one OG.

As for Solder- he's too old. The G-Men aren't winning this year.

Getting an old OT is not the answer.

Get Fleming instead. By the time the Giants get good, Solder will be washed up.

In comment 13863002 sharpshooter66 said:

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In comment 13862813 Essex said: Quote: In comment 13862801 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said: Quote: how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL +100 are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today. Easy killers. No where in that comment did he say Solder was Whitworth. What hes saying is that if you pass on the only guy avqilqble youre flipping retarded. Its not about Whitworth vs Solder,its about Flowers vs Solder lol. Comeon guys make a wee bit of sense huh?

Are you a Jet's fan? You don't have to like him but I root for the G-Men and have for 40+ years. If you have an issue with him then go follow someone else.

Solder signs with Giants unless we over pay 💰

the morons on this board forget that..they are FREE to sign wherever they want.. it doesn’t mean let’s lynch the regime less than 6 fucking months of being on the job.

This board is absolutely full of fucking dipshits right now.

because wisdom from 15 years ago says guards shouldn't make a lot of money but throw money at a 30 year old tackle with injury and concussion concerns who doesn't really want to play anywhere other than NE. Good talk.

overpaying is built into free agency. the questions is how mush do you have to overpay. IMO, he'll be able to get more elsewhere.


His little one has some health issues, so, that will probably be foremost in his thought process (e.g., access to best treatment)

In comment 13863148 uconngiant said:

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In comment 13863002 sharpshooter66 said: Quote: In comment 13862813 Essex said: Quote: In comment 13862801 adamg said: Quote: In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said: Quote: how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year... i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys.... sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL +100 are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today. Easy killers. No where in that comment did he say Solder was Whitworth. What hes saying is that if you pass on the only guy avqilqble youre flipping retarded. Its not about Whitworth vs Solder,its about Flowers vs Solder lol. Comeon guys make a wee bit of sense huh? Are you a Jet's fan? You don't have to like him but I root for the G-Men and have for 40+ years. If you have an issue with him then go follow someone else.

follow who?

But use your money so you can pay a bunch of bargain basement specials. That makes perfect sense. It’s not like we haven’t tried that before. I see Jerry Reese is making a special guest appearance on BBI.

But use your money so you can pay a bunch of bargain basement specials. That makes perfect sense. It’s not like we haven’t tried that before. I see Jerry Reese is making a special guest appearance on BBI.

why don't you go get the papers...

Instead we're going to end up paying Pugh and Solder a combined $25M/year to be mediocre. How can you argue a little extra dough isn't worth all-pro play vs. mediocre/sub-par play? I don't care guard vs. tackle, o-line is o-line in today's NFL with all the different blitz schemes Defenses come up with these days.

But the Giants need to do it this year only
Then we should be in a good$$$ situation DG needs to be firm don’t kick the can down the road so we are in perpetual cap hell like forever under reese

Pugh will sign elsewhere

That David Diehl is like essentially the reason we won 2 super bowls. We got insanely lucky getting a guy in the 7th round who wasn't even a left tackle and he ended up filling that role reliably well for half a decade.

I’m going to get the papers get the papers

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why don't you go get the papers...

LMAO

5th rd. Other then Snee who else have they drafted?.

drafted that I can remember was...Williams the Center when Reeves was here? Can't be that long ago...

Brian Williams really good

In comment 13862988 est1986 said:

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You are an unhappy little man.

was 3rd rounder Jeff Hatch

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was 3rd rounder Jeff Hatch

The Rod Babers of offensive linemen.

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.

He was, yes - 5th rd I believe.

Went to MIN for a few years after he left here.

went to Vikes, did fairly well there.

?

Snee in 2004 then ...Mitch Petrus, James Brewer, Adam Koets, and several years we didn't draft any OL.

but he had a sharp legal mind - remember when he didn't want to participate in rookie camp without a contract due to fear of injury?

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Snee in 2004 then ...Mitch Petrus, James Brewer, Adam Koets, and several years we didn't draft any OL.

James Brewer, another Ereck Flowers. Except Flowers actually plays with some aggression and power.

when we drafted Petitgout in the 1st. I was crushed the year we just missed out on Ogden and got Cedric Jones.

I’d be really surprised if we don’t take at least one OL in Rounds 2 and 3.

Hatch injured his back early in his rookie year. Possibly had tweaked it pre draft even.

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when we drafted Petitgout in the 1st. I was crushed the year we just missed out on Ogden and got Cedric Jones. I’d be really surprised if we don’t take at least one OL in Rounds 2 and 3.

I would too. Building the OL through the draft will take a couple a couple of years but you need to start with this draft.

Where they wanted the line to 'look professional' ( I.E. not fat wide droopy pants).

Which is very silly of course. Get great football players. Wide is fine.

in lieu of alan feneca (sp?)

they can play into their mid 30s in most cases. He’s an average LT, but he could add some stability to the position for a few years.

can we get any younger?

seriously

In comment 13862821 Joey in VA said:

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Not worth the $ it will take.

Agreed. He’s better as a Pat than any other team.
PFT ranked him the 30th best tackle.

That Boisture said was mean as a snake?

In comment 13863085 Vanzetti said:

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If they have to overpay, so be it.

1000% agree , especially if your planning to draft a franchise QB for the future

Also this moves Flowers to guard or RT which could be a second huge addition to the line

Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old....

We need building blocks to start with, not blocks that will need to be replaced in a season or two...

This team will make moves that make you scratch your head, like re-signing Herz and cutting DRC......I feel Gettleman is trying to go middle of the road instead of a full rebuild...

So be it....so long as the end justifies the means......

Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old....

We need building blocks to start with, not blocks that will need to be replaced in a season or two...

This team will make moves that make you scratch your head, like re-signing Herz and cutting DRC......I feel Gettleman is trying to go middle of the road instead of a full rebuild...

So be it....so long as the end justifies the means......

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Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old.... We need building blocks to start with, not blocks that will need to be replaced in a season or two... This team will make moves that make you scratch your head, like re-signing Herz and cutting DRC......I feel Gettleman is trying to go middle of the road instead of a full rebuild... So be it....so long as the end justifies the means......

Bingo, he’s nowhere near as good as the money he’s going to get for a 30 year old. Hard pass on Solder

or possibly just hoping to get 1 or the other. It would seem likely they are in on both of them.

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That Boisture said was mean as a snake?

Ben Fricke was the center he was talking about. He said he was tough as a boot and would choke you to death.

And cut in camp
Thx

In comment 13863514 BigBlue4You09 said:

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In comment 13863511 Doomster said: Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old.... Bingo, he’s nowhere near as good as the money he’s going to get for a 30 year old. Hard pass on Solder

The guy to sign was Norwell - could have gotten another 10 years out of him. Solder has already played the best he will ever play. At 30, he's not the guy to be signing. Reminds me of the same backward ass thinking when Reese cut ties with 24 year-old, SB champion, emerging star Linvale Joseph, and opted to go with older, less talented, and useless vets like Jenkins and Patterson.

that the player can actually CHOOSE to go anywhere they want to??

In comment 13863663 TheVette said:

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In comment 13863514 BigBlue4You09 said: Quote: In comment 13863511 Doomster said: Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old.... Bingo, he’s nowhere near as good as the money he’s going to get for a 30 year old. Hard pass on Solder The guy to sign was Norwell - could have gotten another 10 years out of him. Solder has already played the best he will ever play. At 30, he's not the guy to be signing. Reminds me of the same backward ass thinking when Reese cut ties with 24 year-old, SB champion, emerging star Linvale Joseph, and opted to go with older, less talented, and useless vets like Jenkins and Patterson.

funny how last year everyone wanted Whitworth who was five years older.. now we dont want a younger player who has played on a championship team ??

this place just loses its mind on the offseason..

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In comment 13863663 TheVette funny how last year everyone wanted Whitworth who was five years older.. now we dont want a younger player who has played on a championship team ?? this place just loses its mind on the offseason..

What's really FUNNY is that you are comparing Solder, who has made ZERO Pro Bowls in 7 years to Whitworth who has been 1st Team All Pro and made 5 Pro Bowls. Comparing an apple to a quashed orange, but if you think you must...

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In comment 13863672 blueblood said: Quote: In comment 13863663 TheVette funny how last year everyone wanted Whitworth who was five years older.. now we dont want a younger player who has played on a championship team ?? this place just loses its mind on the offseason.. What's really FUNNY is that you are comparing Solder, who has made ZERO Pro Bowls in 7 years to Whitworth who has been 1st Team All Pro and made 5 Pro Bowls. Comparing an apple to a quashed orange, but if you think you must...

sorry but pro bowls dont really mean much to me..

here is the reality.. there isnt much talent in free agency. Solder like it or not is the best tackle out there. The Giants made an offer to Norwell. he chose another team. Thats how it works.. Just like you can chose another place of employment.. so can they.. fans just dont seem to able to deal with the fact that someone didnt chose THEIR team..

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In comment 13863679 TheVette said: What's really FUNNY is that you are comparing Solder, who has made ZERO Pro Bowls in 7 years to Whitworth who has been 1st Team All Pro and made 5 Pro Bowls. Comparing an apple to a quashed orange, but if you think you must... sorry but pro bowls dont really mean much to me.. here is the reality.. there isnt much talent in free agency. Solder like it or not is the best tackle out there. The Giants made an offer to Norwell. he chose another team. Thats how it works.. Just like you can chose another place of employment.. so can they.. fans just dont seem to able to deal with the fact that someone didnt chose THEIR team..

Pro Bowls don;t mean much is easy to say when a guy blocking for Tom Brady has not made 1 in 7 years. Just because you do not get your guy Norwell means that you turn around and overpay for a less productive, older, and inferior player. What fans get - and apparently you do not - is that you do not take a FA snub and compound the issue by trying to make up for it. See decision to pass on 24 year old Linvale Joseph and knee-jerk older, less talented Mike Patterson and Cullen Jenkins

Go watch the tape of the Superbowl. Solder is solid. Not great but solid. If say he's between the 8th and 12th best left tackle in football. On a four year deal that expires at his age 33 is all good

In comment 13863025 BigBlue4You09 said:

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In comment 13862988 est1986 said: Quote: In comment 13862968 McNally's_Nuts said: Quote: In comment 13862940 est1986 said: Quote: I bet he strikes out again You’re the worst Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Wait until you see how bad he fucks up the draft. Hopefully you’ll be banned by then. Whiny little bitch troll

What’s got your panties bunched up new guy? Whatever it is, I am sure you can get over it & keep scrolling on...

Dave G couldn’t get the top head coach he wanted or top tier free agents he wanted/needed for the OL... facts. Didn’t like the Dave G hire and that’s not going to change until he makes some good moves.. haven’t seen any yet. It’s a shame how such a poor OL a year ago looks to only be getting worse now...

Don’t like the Ogletree trade...
Don’t like the DRC cut...
Herzlich...?
Greco...?
Stewart...?
Are you for real?
It’s early, yeah, but so far, no bueno...

In comment 13863691 jtgiants said:

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Go watch the tape of the Superbowl. Solder is solid. Not great but solid. If say he's between the 8th and 12th best left tackle in football. On a four year deal that expires at his age 33 is all good

I'm not saying he's bad - just not worth the $15M/year he may command. if there was no cap - sure, but are you saying you would give him a 4yr/$56M-$60M deal? I would not go there at all.

I'm saying he's a top 8 to 12 LT. That's a major upgrade from flowers. Unfortunately that's the going rate. He'll help

Solder's market value IS what he is worth. If someone is willing to pay him.

Now, if you feel that it is a mistaken in judgement by he team, maybe.

Desperate times leads to desperate measures.

The Giants have Wheeler as our only LT prospect.

Solder might cause a domino effect across entire OL. Solder solidifies LT,which allows others to go to better fitting positions. Win/win

It's not yours. There are always ways to make cap space. The Eagles were 9 million over the cap and have signed 2 free agents so far plus traded for Michael Bennett.

Per Ian Rapoport. Which means he'll go back to NE

hopefully could really improve this line.

Solder is likely a slightly below average left tackle. That's a huge upgrade for us, no doubt, but paying him as the top left tackle in football will make it really tight on our cap space. Signing Solder could be similar to when we signed JPP last year.