if he checks out medically I would be all for this. Grabbing a legit left tackle pre draft is huge. You can move flowers to right tackle or have him compete inside. This draft is full of good guards and late round quality tackles. This signing, if it happens, will be huge
The team is in a dangerous position. The OL market heading into FA wasn’t particularly robust to begin with and quite a few of the more appealing lesser tier options, such as Chris Hubbard, are already off the table. They will have to be able to pivot quickly toward Fleming. Otherwise they may find themselves looking at older stop gap options rather than actually making progresss toward finding youthful productive players that are part of a long term solution. It would also make it more imperative to use our already limited draft picks on the OL limiting our flexibility in he draft and our ability to address other areas.
This may sound overly dramatic but I don’t think I’m that off-base. There are other options after Solder but few LTs make it to the market and as Whitworth proved, they can still be effective into their 30s. Solder gives us breathing room and flexibility.
.....outside of missing most of the 2015 season with a torn biceps. That same year he was diagnosed with testicular cancer, but it was treated and went into remission. His 3-year old son has had a form of kidney cancer since he was a baby. That's why some believe he won't uproot from the Boston area because all of their doctors are there.
For us sinners oh lord please don't let this happen send Solder on his godly way somewhere else.
Sure let's pray he goes somewhere else. A guy who would be the Giants best LT in what 20 years? Yup don't need him. Holy shit. Do you ever say anything positive?
at LT, more expensive , injury-prone ,and, perhaps, only marginally better than they are now. I’d rather they role the dice with Wheeler and move Flowers over. But if Gettleman is in, let it be all in . Get your guy .
at LT, more expensive , injury-prone ,and, perhaps, only marginally better than they are now. I’d rather they role the dice with Wheeler and move Flowers over. But if Gettleman is in, let it be all in . Get your guy .
Only marginally better? In what fucking world? He's the starting LT for the best team ever. Injury prone? He's missed 13 games in 7 years and 12 of them were in one season. Please don't talk if you don't know what you are talking about.
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One free agent to watch today: #Patriots LT Nate Solder. As of last night, it sounded like #Giants or #Texans… and there wasn’t a lot of optimism that he’d return to New England.
My (dated) recollection is that there's not much there. They did have a great diner back (back, back) in the day. Worth the drive over.
Anyway, if it's only Texas and us, then perhaps the location works in our favor, in terms of what people had mentioned being New England's draw...being close to his son's doctors. NY is an easy move in that regard. OTOH, MD Anderson has some awesome oncologists.
Now we can draft a good OG in the 2nd or 3rd round. Much better OG prospects then OT prospects. So signing Norwell would have left us fucked at OT. Signing Solder would leave us in good position in the draft.
O'Brien connection & the no state income tax going for them.
Very true, if it's money, he will choose the Texans likely. However, for the other very real issues in his life, with his child's health and access to doctors, NYC is a pretty good place to live. And if they want to have quick access back to doctors in Boston, it's just an hour flight away from LaGuardia to Logan. It's not an easy decision.
Build thru the draft stop picking up others trash for way more than they are worth always my theory. Tell me who in the hell signed for true value in the last 12 hours teams just threw away millions of dollars.
I want DG to take his money and go home after the draft fill the team with UDFA for little or nothing build a roster of young guys. Look the Phins can release Sue not the player they hoped he would be but much better than most of our DL presently. Still I would not sign him the money needed to do that is just not worth it proven fact.
Passing along some info here from a friend in the media, but he hears the Giants expect to sign Solder within the next 48 hours. He hears 4-5 year deal.
RE: Solder has been diagnosed with at least four concussions Â
Build thru the draft stop picking up others trash for way more than they are worth always my theory. Tell me who in the hell signed for true value in the last 12 hours teams just threw away millions of dollars.
I want DG to take his money and go home after the draft fill the team with UDFA for little or nothing build a roster of young guys. Look the Phins can release Sue not the player they hoped he would be but much better than most of our DL presently. Still I would not sign him the money needed to do that is just not worth it proven fact.
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I’m sure there is one but it’s probably nothing close to what other teams are offering in terms of bonus and guarantees.
Solder is a really big dude. He’d be a great fit here I think.
No idea what that means for Flowers. My guess is he would have to compete for a G or RT spot in camp and if he can’t win it, he’ll get cut.
I'm wondering because NE usually has a good feel for when to offer below market, and when to cut bait. I like Solder a lot, just some concern with the injuries and concussions with him.
EF would kick to RT, Wheeler would be the swing and would compete with EF.
The structure of the deal matters a lot in my opinion. If substantial guaranteed money extends past two years, this won't be a good deal. However, if Solder is signed to play here for a year or two while we groom someone we draft, then this is a great signing.
Passing along some info here from a friend in the media, but he hears the Giants expect to sign Solder within the next 48 hours. He hears 4-5 year deal.
Yeah, I was saying that before. MD Anderson is a fantastic place. I do not think that it would be going out on a limb to say that he would not find better care in Boston (Harvard Med, Dana Farber, Mass Gen, whatever) than he would at MD Anderson. Not saying it's worse either.
The one thing he wouldn't necessarily have there, though, is familiarity. People are generally loathe to switch doctors, especially for something specialized and major like this. He does have an established relationship, so the decision could be medical but independent of quality of care.
Giants are not a title contender this year. going after an older Tackle past his prime who was contemplating retirement while being on a team that already bleeds success is just so wrong.
This may sound overly dramatic but I don’t think I’m that off-base. There are other options after Solder but few LTs make it to the market and as Whitworth proved, they can still be effective into their 30s. Solder gives us breathing room and flexibility.
They need to fix this line. With Norwell, and Hubbard both gone - Solder becomes a higher priority.
Sure let's pray he goes somewhere else. A guy who would be the Giants best LT in what 20 years? Yup don't need him. Holy shit. Do you ever say anything positive?
Only marginally better? In what fucking world? He's the starting LT for the best team ever. Injury prone? He's missed 13 games in 7 years and 12 of them were in one season. Please don't talk if you don't know what you are talking about.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2013/12/nate_solder_likely_suffers_fourth_diagnosed_concussion_in_loss?amp
One free agent to watch today: #Patriots LT Nate Solder. As of last night, it sounded like #Giants or #Texans… and there wasn’t a lot of optimism that he’d return to New England.
Anyway, if it's only Texas and us, then perhaps the location works in our favor, in terms of what people had mentioned being New England's draw...being close to his son's doctors. NY is an easy move in that regard. OTOH, MD Anderson has some awesome oncologists.
Very true, if it's money, he will choose the Texans likely. However, for the other very real issues in his life, with his child's health and access to doctors, NYC is a pretty good place to live. And if they want to have quick access back to doctors in Boston, it's just an hour flight away from LaGuardia to Logan. It's not an easy decision.
I want DG to take his money and go home after the draft fill the team with UDFA for little or nothing build a roster of young guys. Look the Phins can release Sue not the player they hoped he would be but much better than most of our DL presently. Still I would not sign him the money needed to do that is just not worth it proven fact.
If Solder is not the plan, then who? I am all ears.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2013/12/nate_solder_likely_suffers_fourth_diagnosed_concussion_in_loss?amp
But is his Dad a wealthy surgeon who will force him to retire early?
I’m sure there is one but it’s probably nothing close to what other teams are offering in terms of bonus and guarantees.
Solder is a really big dude. He’d be a great fit here I think.
No idea what that means for Flowers. My guess is he would have to compete for a G or RT spot in camp and if he can’t win it, he’ll get cut.
I want DG to take his money and go home after the draft fill the team with UDFA for little or nothing build a roster of young guys. Look the Phins can release Sue not the player they hoped he would be but much better than most of our DL presently. Still I would not sign him the money needed to do that is just not worth it proven fact.
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Confusing. Is that from 22 hours ago? If so then why hasn't the 1000 Twitter accounts of all the sports reporters told us this?
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if there is one.
I’m sure there is one but it’s probably nothing close to what other teams are offering in terms of bonus and guarantees.
Solder is a really big dude. He’d be a great fit here I think.
No idea what that means for Flowers. My guess is he would have to compete for a G or RT spot in camp and if he can’t win it, he’ll get cut.
I'm wondering because NE usually has a good feel for when to offer below market, and when to cut bait. I like Solder a lot, just some concern with the injuries and concussions with him.
EF would kick to RT, Wheeler would be the swing and would compete with EF.
2. If Giants interest is true I'm willing to bet Norwell was the perfect smoke screen for the media to hid interest for Solder
3. Solder upgrades the LT position and G as I truly believe that Flowers will become a force inside
4. Could signal the Giants willing to be ready to plan for Darnold as his protector will be signed long term future.
So sounds like he’s going to Houston
Plus MD Anderson.
The one thing he wouldn't necessarily have there, though, is familiarity. People are generally loathe to switch doctors, especially for something specialized and major like this. He does have an established relationship, so the decision could be medical but independent of quality of care.
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O'Brien connection & the no state income tax going for them.
Plus MD Anderson.
so what, Giants had the Norwell connection too
and you know this how?
The Giants should be looking for youth.