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Mathieu down to Giants, Jets, Packers

Breeze_94 : 3/15/2018 8:34 pm
"Tyrann Mathieu is still deciding which teams he’s going to visit. The Giants, Jets and Packers are three teams that are “still in it at the moment.” (via @joearrigo)


Don't see how they make this work with the cap unless his cap hit is 6 mil this year...

So it won't be one of these teams  
ZogZerg : 3/15/2018 8:35 pm : link
Then
There are 4 other teams listed in that same report  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/15/2018 8:36 pm : link
More on Mathieu:

The teams sources tell me are “in at the moment” w/ Tyrann are (in no order):

Packers, Giants, Jets, Saints, Seahawks, Texans & Raiders (trying to confirm others)
Norwell....  
Nysportsfn13 : 3/15/2018 8:36 pm : link
believe nothing.. until it happens.
RE: So it won't be one of these teams  
Breeze_94 : 3/15/2018 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13868358 ZogZerg said:
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Then


I think it'll be the Packers- he says he "wants to be somewhere football matters." That is not the Jets IMO. Packers or Giants, and GB has more cap space.
No clue who that guy even is  
illmatic : 3/15/2018 8:37 pm : link
but I have a gut feeling that Mathieu ends up with the Jets or Texans. My gut feeling is probably about as reliable as that dude so yeah.
Are the Jets going to run 3 safety sets?  
figgy2989 : 3/15/2018 8:37 pm : link
They have Adams and Maye. They both had good rookie years. I get the Bowles connection, but it makes no sense for them.
Cap is very easily manipulated  
nygiants16 : 3/15/2018 8:37 pm : link
Eagles were 9 million over and then signed a bunch of players...

If giants want mathieu they can make it work
He also  
Big Rick in FL : 3/15/2018 8:38 pm : link
Said Saints, Seahawks, Texans & Raiders. So not really narrowing it down lol
JETs have mucho dollars to spend......  
Simms11 : 3/15/2018 8:39 pm : link
and Bowles one of his former DCs, as well. Probably ends up there. We just don’t have the capital IMO.
I believe Mathieu is dating Bowles daughter  
CMicks3110 : 3/15/2018 8:40 pm : link
if that matters
RE: There are 4 other teams listed in that same report  
Breeze_94 : 3/15/2018 8:42 pm : link
In comment 13868359 BigBlue4You09 said:
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More on Mathieu:

The teams sources tell me are “in at the moment” w/ Tyrann are (in no order):

Packers, Giants, Jets, Saints, Seahawks, Texans & Raiders (trying to confirm others)


Yea sorry. I got this tweet from the "Giants Daily" twitter account and this is how he tweeted it. I didn't see the actual tweet, but the Giants Daily account worded it poorly to make it seem more favorable for the Giants in order to get more clicks
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BleedBlue : 3/15/2018 8:42 pm : link
No clue why Jets or Seahawks would be interested...

Jets shouldn't take maye or Adams off the field ever...they have skrine in the slot too.

Seahawks makes sense if they get rid of Thomas but asking price is high
RE: No clue who that guy even is  
allstarjim : 3/15/2018 8:47 pm : link
In comment 13868363 illmatic said:
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but I have a gut feeling that Mathieu ends up with the Jets or Texans. My gut feeling is probably about as reliable as that dude so yeah.


I have a feeling also that it's going to be Texans. I think he'll be excited to play with DeShaun Watson and JJ Watt.
RE: I believe Mathieu is dating Bowles daughter  
Eman11 : 3/15/2018 8:53 pm : link
In comment 13868369 CMicks3110 said:
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if that matters


I don't know if they are dating or how accurate the info is but I heard the hosts on WFAN today say he has a kid with Bowles step daughter. No idea if they're together or not.
He'll follow the money...  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2018 8:53 pm : link
which won't lead him to the Giants.
RE: He'll follow the money...  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/15/2018 9:03 pm : link
In comment 13868388 GFAN52 said:
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which won't lead him to the Giants.


If the Giants want him that bad they can afford him
I like everything about him except..  
EricJ : 3/15/2018 9:06 pm : link
the fact that every time I put a Cardinals game on the guy is not playing.
Jets can pay the most  
Rflairr : 3/15/2018 9:07 pm : link
.
RE: I like everything about him except..  
nygiants16 : 3/15/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13868403 EricJ said:
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the fact that every time I put a Cardinals game on the guy is not playing.


Funny since he played the most snaps last year
RE: I like everything about him except..  
Eman11 : 3/15/2018 9:16 pm : link
In comment 13868403 EricJ said:
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the fact that every time I put a Cardinals game on the guy is not playing.


You must've tuned in when the O was on the field then. Between D and specials, he played the most snaps of anyone in the NFL last year.
Seattle has good reason to be in on Mathieu  
Des51 : 3/15/2018 9:42 pm : link
Listening to the Draft show over at Dallas Cowboys Hosted by Brian Broddus and Dane Bugler, they hinted that the cowboys were in negotiations with Seattle for Earl Thomas. Money wasn't holding up the deal, they said it was other matters. I suspect it's the draft picks that Seattle wants. They said an announcement would be made over the next few days or in a week's time. Thus the interest from Seattle for Mathieu.
RE: I like everything about him except..  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/15/2018 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13868403 EricJ said:
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the fact that every time I put a Cardinals game on the guy is not playing.


Must have been a commercial
He would be a good fit here  
blueblood : 3/15/2018 9:49 pm : link
a solid DB who can play safety. blitz and cover slot guys.. cost might be a little high.. has some injury history too..
RE: Seattle has good reason to be in on Mathieu  
BleedBlue : 3/15/2018 9:53 pm : link
In comment 13868445 Des51 said:
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Listening to the Draft show over at Dallas Cowboys Hosted by Brian Broddus and Dane Bugler, they hinted that the cowboys were in negotiations with Seattle for Earl Thomas. Money wasn't holding up the deal, they said it was other matters. I suspect it's the draft picks that Seattle wants. They said an announcement would be made over the next few days or in a week's time. Thus the interest from Seattle for Mathieu.


Dallas is out of it last I heard....Seattle wants a first n 3rd
If DG feels HB is is vital fit  
KeoweeFan : 3/15/2018 10:27 pm : link
vs all other FAs at other positions he will go after him.
Dave knows how to make "unaffordable" affordable w/r/t other contracts.
Mathieu looks like a good choice for the turn around of this D.
RE: RE: Seattle has good reason to be in on Mathieu  
allstarjim : 3/15/2018 10:29 pm : link
In comment 13868469 BleedBlue said:
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Listening to the Draft show over at Dallas Cowboys Hosted by Brian Broddus and Dane Bugler, they hinted that the cowboys were in negotiations with Seattle for Earl Thomas. Money wasn't holding up the deal, they said it was other matters. I suspect it's the draft picks that Seattle wants. They said an announcement would be made over the next few days or in a week's time. Thus the interest from Seattle for Mathieu.



Dallas is out of it last I heard....Seattle wants a first n 3rd


Why waste everyone's time with a ridiculous trade demand? He has one more year under contract, then you have to pay huge money in an extension, or you have to extend him now for big money...so if you're Dallas or any other team you aren't giving up a first rounder much less a first AND a third, and then have to pay him.

I'd imagine Dallas would do it for a 3rd, perhaps a 2nd rounder, that's it, and if Seattle thinks anyone else would pay more than that, they are kidding themselves. The guy probably has about 3 seasons left of this level of performance before he starts to decline, if everything goes well. I'm sure Seattle is just playing hardball here, but obviously you aren't getting that kind of compensation.
IMO  
est1986 : 3/15/2018 11:20 pm : link
Tyrann is as much a slot corner as he is a free safety and if we added him he would be an instant impact player at both positions, HUGE for us imo. Pay him and then fast forward to the draft please. If Dave G gets this done I am done doubting him.
we need someone  
spike : 3/15/2018 11:21 pm : link
to replae DRC
RE: IMO  
nygiants16 : 3/15/2018 11:22 pm : link
In comment 13868573 est1986 said:
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Tyrann is as much a slot corner as he is a free safety and if we added him he would be an instant impact player at both positions, HUGE for us imo. Pay him and then fast forward to the draft please. If Dave G gets this done I am done doubting him.


Bettcher in that meeting they had about personnel said he will use the free safety that way..

He wants a guy who can play over the top but then come up and cover a slot wide receiver...

It allows him to be more creative with personnel and he doesn't always have to bring in an extra th because he trusts the free safety to cover
Seems like a good fit for...  
bw in dc : 3/15/2018 11:25 pm : link
the Steelers. That D certainly could use his play making skills...
RE: Seems like a good fit for...  
arcarsenal : 3/16/2018 12:08 am : link
In comment 13868584 bw in dc said:
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the Steelers. That D certainly could use his play making skills...


That's what Sy said the destination would be... or what he had been hearing as of yesterday.

I agree Mathieu would be a good fit for them.

I know it sounds crazy, but I don't even really want him here. I don't think it'll be worth the price tag. I'm not sure a player his size is going to hold up for the long-haul.
Odell on Former LSU teammate Tyrann Mathieu  
Vanzetti : 3/16/2018 3:25 am : link
“I expect nothing but greatness from him” 2015
RE: RE: RE: Seattle has good reason to be in on Mathieu  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/16/2018 3:37 am : link
In comment 13868516 allstarjim said:
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In comment 13868445 Des51 said:


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Listening to the Draft show over at Dallas Cowboys Hosted by Brian Broddus and Dane Bugler, they hinted that the cowboys were in negotiations with Seattle for Earl Thomas. Money wasn't holding up the deal, they said it was other matters. I suspect it's the draft picks that Seattle wants. They said an announcement would be made over the next few days or in a week's time. Thus the interest from Seattle for Mathieu.



Dallas is out of it last I heard....Seattle wants a first n 3rd



Why waste everyone's time with a ridiculous trade demand? He has one more year under contract, then you have to pay huge money in an extension, or you have to extend him now for big money...so if you're Dallas or any other team you aren't giving up a first rounder much less a first AND a third, and then have to pay him.

I'd imagine Dallas would do it for a 3rd, perhaps a 2nd rounder, that's it, and if Seattle thinks anyone else would pay more than that, they are kidding themselves. The guy probably has about 3 seasons left of this level of performance before he starts to decline, if everything goes well. I'm sure Seattle is just playing hardball here, but obviously you aren't getting that kind of compensation.


He's only 28. I don't think age is the consideration here. He's a top 3 safety.

Also, from Dallas' point of view, they're expecting to be a good team again. Their first round pick is going to be the mid 20s anyway barring some catastrophe. I don't think the trade demand is it either. They just can't afford to pay him what he wants to be paid.
I love..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/16/2018 8:55 am : link
when people make a throwaway post and all it does is put a spotlight on the fucking ignorance:

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I like everything about him except..
EricJ : 3/15/2018 9:06 pm : link : reply
the fact that every time I put a Cardinals game on the guy is not playing.


That sort of backfired - didn't it??
RE: RE: Seems like a good fit for...  
Eric on Li : 3/16/2018 9:20 am : link
In comment 13868606 arcarsenal said:
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the Steelers. That D certainly could use his play making skills...



That's what Sy said the destination would be... or what he had been hearing as of yesterday.

I agree Mathieu would be a good fit for them.

I know it sounds crazy, but I don't even really want him here. I don't think it'll be worth the price tag. I'm not sure a player his size is going to hold up for the long-haul.


I kind of agree. Would be happy if we get him, but don't know if he's worth pushing up against the cap.

Mike Mitchell is a FA, adding him and a reasonably priced slot CB would add a lot of depth to the secondary and fill needs without busting the cap. Eric Reid is also out there. He's had some injury issues but he's a good player.
Jets HC might covet him, but  
Bob in Newburgh : 3/16/2018 10:16 am : link
GM will not add that kind of cap hit to the S position where they have good, young, reasonably priced talent.
He's going to the Jets...  
totowa_gman : 3/16/2018 10:18 am : link
He can play CB as well.
He likes our DC and he said $$$ aren't the big issue  
PatersonPlank : 3/16/2018 10:35 am : link
Why would we not be the favorites? He would be another great pickup.
RE: He's going to the Jets...  
AdamBrag : 3/16/2018 10:39 am : link
In comment 13868971 totowa_gman said:
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He can play CB as well.


Jets have a lot of $$$, but they have Claiborne and Johnson at CB and Adams and Maye at S, I'm not sure I see the obvious fit there.

The Packers make a ton of sense though.
Anything new on this?  
eli4life : 3/16/2018 5:56 pm : link
Any asshat info?
RE: RE: No clue who that guy even is  
allstarjim : 3/16/2018 11:05 pm : link
In comment 13868381 allstarjim said:
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but I have a gut feeling that Mathieu ends up with the Jets or Texans. My gut feeling is probably about as reliable as that dude so yeah.



I have a feeling also that it's going to be Texans. I think he'll be excited to play with DeShaun Watson and JJ Watt.


Called it
RE: RE: RE: No clue who that guy even is  
bw in dc : 3/16/2018 11:52 pm : link
In comment 13870310 allstarjim said:
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but I have a gut feeling that Mathieu ends up with the Jets or Texans. My gut feeling is probably about as reliable as that dude so yeah.



I have a feeling also that it's going to be Texans. I think he'll be excited to play with DeShaun Watson and JJ Watt.



Called it


You nailed that for sure. The football gods owe that D a year of good health. If they get it, look out...
RE: So it won't be one of these teams  
Jay in Toronto : 3/17/2018 6:59 am : link
In comment 13868358 ZogZerg said:
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Correct!
Badger  
sharpshooter66 : 3/17/2018 7:18 am : link
Expected to sign with Texans
seems like there is more bad information floating around this year  
ZogZerg : 3/17/2018 7:50 am : link
than in the past.
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