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Tyrann Matthieu is Giants priority; interest is mutual

BigBlue4You09 : 3/16/2018 8:49 pm
@OrtizDYST Sources: The New York Giants are making Tyrann Matthieu a priority right now. Many teams in the mix, but interest is mutual with Giants.

GET IT DONE!!!!
What source is that?  
GFAN52 : 3/16/2018 8:51 pm : link
I'm not familiar with him.
That would be nice,  
BIGbluegermany : 3/16/2018 8:52 pm : link
Collins and Matthieu,it can be worse.
A lot  
mattyblue : 3/16/2018 8:57 pm : link
Of money being thrown at two safeties is probably a problem
Ortiz was the guy who said the Browns  
shyster : 3/16/2018 8:58 pm : link
trade for Landry meant that they would be meeting with Cousins shortly.

Then the Browns traded for Tyrod Taylor without showing any interest in Cousins.




Strike one - ( New Window )
We have another needs  
mattyblue : 3/16/2018 8:59 pm : link
and players to resign. Save the money, how much will Collins get? How much do we now have spent on the Dline. It just seems crazy.
I dont think it will happen  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2018 8:59 pm : link
but if it does, at the very least this will be an insanely fun team to watch. Ill let DG worry about the money.
RE: We have another needs  
Nysportsfn13 : 3/16/2018 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13870196 mattyblue said:
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and players to resign. Save the money, how much will Collins get? How much do we now have spent on the Dline. It just seems crazy.


speaking of the D Line, those 2 better perform this year because OV and even JPP can be cut next season with very minimual penalty (4M or so).
I wouldn't worry about the 2019 cap...  
Nysportsfn13 : 3/16/2018 9:05 pm : link
Giants have a lot of cap space next year. I think I read it was around 70M before these deals, but even with these deals they should have enough for Odell and Collins, especially if they decide to go QB this year and go with said QB next year and move/cut Eli.
Bettcher we get....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 3/16/2018 9:11 pm : link
....the Honey Badger!!
Go for  
XBRONX : 3/16/2018 9:11 pm : link
it
RE: Ortiz was the guy who said the Browns  
Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2018 9:20 pm : link
In comment 13870193 shyster said:
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trade for Landry meant that they would be meeting with Cousins shortly.

Then the Browns traded for Tyrod Taylor without showing any interest in Cousins.


Strike one - ( New Window )


To be fair there were reliable reporters who were saying the same thing. This shit is fluid. The Browns could have wanted to meet with Cousins. Cousins could have told them no and then they went out to trade for Tyrod.

Every single reporter misses. I wouldn't put too much into it. For example Jason La Canfora constantly misses on other teams and has been spot on for the Giants ever since he reported the Gettleman hire.
If Mattieu wants to be here  
TMS : 3/16/2018 9:21 pm : link
Abrams will work it out for sure IMO.
Shyster  
Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2018 9:22 pm : link
With that said I would take this with a grain of salt. Just as you would with any rumor. The Mathieu signing does make a ton of sense. We have his former DC. The same guy who he had a DPOY type season under. We also have the need for a player like Mathieu. Also it would make sense why we cut DRC. They had to have some kind of idea who his replacement would be.
RE: If Mattieu wants to be here  
Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2018 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13870216 TMS said:
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Abrams will work it out for sure IMO.


Yeah he will. Cap space isn't really a problem. The Eagles were 9 million over the cap. They went out and traded for Michael Bennett (Who is making good money). Gave Nigel Bradham 40 million a year. Plus signed LB Corey Nelson & Haloti Ngata.
Yea  
BleedBlue : 3/16/2018 9:30 pm : link
If there is mutual interest and Giants want it, it will get done
Seriously  
Mark from Jersey : 3/16/2018 9:33 pm : link
how can you pay him with Collins on this team? If you do, that means you let Collins walk when his contract is up?
RE: Seriously  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/16/2018 9:34 pm : link
In comment 13870229 Mark from Jersey said:
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how can you pay him with Collins on this team? If you do, that means you let Collins walk when his contract is up?


They will find a way
Giants aren't losing Odell or Collins...  
Nysportsfn13 : 3/16/2018 9:36 pm : link
not going to happen, unless they're OK with losing them.

Giants have cap space for 2019, and a ton more starting in 2020, this is really the only year they're going to be tight against the cap, ESPECIALLY if they go QB this draft.
RE: Seriously  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/16/2018 9:39 pm : link
In comment 13870229 Mark from Jersey said:
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how can you pay him with Collins on this team? If you do, that means you let Collins walk when his contract is up?


Omg, you guys will "seriously" bitch and whine about absolutely anything.
RE: RE: Seriously  
mattyblue : 3/16/2018 9:57 pm : link
In comment 13870239 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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In comment 13870229 Mark from Jersey said:


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how can you pay him with Collins on this team? If you do, that means you let Collins walk when his contract is up?



Omg, you guys will "seriously" bitch and whine about absolutely anything.



I dont think people are bitching, but he may get a big contract and I could be mistaken but his knee has been destroyed. And of course money is not endless. We have bad contracts on the team already why add more?
I was just talking to an NFL reporter  
Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2018 9:58 pm : link
Who said this guy is a complete fraud and is known to fabricate bullshit stories. So take this with a grain of salt.
RE: RE: RE: Seriously  
nygiants16 : 3/16/2018 10:05 pm : link
In comment 13870246 mattyblue said:
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In comment 13870239 LakeGeorgeGiant said:


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In comment 13870229 Mark from Jersey said:


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how can you pay him with Collins on this team? If you do, that means you let Collins walk when his contract is up?



Omg, you guys will "seriously" bitch and whine about absolutely anything.




I dont think people are bitching, but he may get a big contract and I could be mistaken but his knee has been destroyed. And of course money is not endless. We have bad contracts on the team already why add more?


His knee was destroyed? He played the m per snaps of anyone in the NFL last year
RE: I was just talking to an NFL reporter  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/16/2018 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13870247 Big Rick in FL said:
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Who said this guy is a complete fraud and is known to fabricate bullshit stories. So take this with a grain of salt.


I mean he didnt really say anything breaking. Why wouldnt their be mutual interest? And many teams in the mix?
Don't we also have to find the money to sign Odell?  
EricJ : 3/16/2018 10:08 pm : link
when is that happening?
Rick  
Emlen'sGremlins : 3/16/2018 10:12 pm : link
Several NFL reporters (both National and NY) have said that the Giants are a legitimate fit for the Honey Badger. Bettcher's multiple scheme is predicated on having smaller, but highly athletic and physical back end playmakers. Matthieu was the straw that stirred the drink for the Top 5 AZ defense 3 years in a row.

Gettleman rounded up his personnel department a few weeks back for a presentation from Bettcher on precisely what kind of players he needs for his scheme to succeeed in New York. No doubt, the Honey Badger is at the very top of that list.
RE: I was just talking to an NFL reporter  
shyster : 3/16/2018 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13870247 Big Rick in FL said:
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Who said this guy is a complete fraud and is known to fabricate bullshit stories. So take this with a grain of salt.


I took the trouble to google/look at Ortiz's background when the Cousins item was posted here. Just struck me as a guy with a keyboard.

Sure, this one "makes sense". If you predict enough things that make sense you will eventually be right.

Someone like La Canfora I give the benefit of the doubt when he's wrong. He has a real job and, at times, breaks real news (the Shurmer hiring).
We cannot afford him  
GeoMan999 : 3/16/2018 10:18 pm : link
Not saying they couldnt move around money, but it would likely be irresponsible to pay him $8-10 million a year when you have to pay Landon Collins as well. We will see.
You can franchise Landon for  
est1986 : 3/16/2018 10:35 pm : link
No more than 12 million.. he is not going anywhere
.  
CMicks3110 : 3/16/2018 10:38 pm : link
jj watt just tweeted three jars of honey
https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/974832754310418432 - ( New Window )
He would play slot as well  
AcesUp : 3/16/2018 10:40 pm : link
He'd be filling two needs. FS in base packages and slides down into the slot in Nickle. Two pretty huge needs, especially slot. Regarding Collins, you can pay both in the right scheme (Seattle) and I think Bettcher's fits the bill.

Grain of salt though, the source reporting is a nobody.
Emlens  
Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2018 10:43 pm : link
Oh yeah I've seen that. Ian Rapoport specifically pointing the Giants out when Mathieu first got cut was very interesting to me. I definitely think he's a legit option in NY, but this guy's track record is not good at all.
oh well  
CMicks3110 : 3/16/2018 10:43 pm : link
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Former Cardinals safety Tyrann Mathieu reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Houston Texans, sources tell ESPN.
He just signed with Houston  
Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2018 10:43 pm : link
So there goes that.
There you go  
AcesUp : 3/16/2018 10:46 pm : link
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If the Giants want him..  
the mike : 3/16/2018 10:48 pm : link
they will get him and the cap issues will be manageable... Bettcher knows this situation better than anyone in the NFL so have to believe that whatever they do it will be based on a well informed opinion of the player and his value.
RE: If the Giants want him..  
the mike : 3/16/2018 10:49 pm : link
In comment 13870288 the mike said:
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they will get him and the cap issues will be manageable... Bettcher knows this situation better than anyone in the NFL so have to believe that whatever they do it will be based on a well informed opinion of the player and his value.


Never mind.
Guess they  
GeoMan999 : 3/16/2018 11:59 pm : link
Felt they couldnt afford him as I said.
RE: Guess they  
short lease : 3/17/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13870398 GeoMan999 said:
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Felt they couldnt afford him as I said.


He only signed a 1 year deal .... the Giants couldn't match or do better than that?

Maybe Matthieu didn't want to come here?
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