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Giants are playing UFA with the goal: WIN this year

SGMen : 3/17/2018 4:49 am
I see a totally new OL being put together. We really, really need the starters to stay healthy in training camp so they have time to mesh.

We are putting together a new linebacking corps. The DL will change with the new scheme.

Apple must mature and finally become a solid, reliable corner.

Finally & most important, Eli must NOT turn it over too much and stay healthy. I see us trading down in this draft to get #1 & #2 (OL Allen) and a #1, #2 next year. Just speculation on my part given our vast needs. Trading down is predicated on how much they think Eli has left AND how much improvement Webb has shown, though that may be hard to judge given there is no mini-camp type setting to evaluate him better this year.

I think the Giants can be competitive if they can finally stay health like they did in 2016; if Eli is still a facsimile at least of himself; and, we get an "easy" early schedule and start 2 - 0 as we learn the new schemes.

My prediction is 9 - 7 if the above occurs (health, Eli, solid draft).
We use the word "rebuilding" but in the NFL  
George from PA : 3/17/2018 5:29 am : link
That does not exist.

GMs and Coach do not get a pass. They are expected to win.

I remember how great it was for the Colt going from Peyton to Luck. Well, not too great for the coaches/GMs.

NFL stands for "Not For Long".

Not sure, the Giants are only trying to win now, but Shurmur does not have a "hall pass". Turn around is expected immediately.

I truly understand getting a franchise QB, but then you look at NE with a 40 year old QB trading Garapolo, and go wtf?
I dont listen to many of the whiners of the BBI crowd  
Creme777 : 3/17/2018 5:52 am : link
because I think Eli Manning is going to have a good year this year

They just look at his negative and just dont appreciate a good QB. Its not their fault they know better.
My fault - error  
Creme777 : 3/17/2018 5:54 am : link
Do not know better
Agree  
Painless62 : 3/17/2018 8:05 am : link
But it will be difficult to build a winner this year with only 5 draft picks. We still need an injection of at least 3 DB’s, 2 LB at a minimum for the defense. Also at least 1 if not 2 OL, 1 RB and 2 WR. These need to be real NFL players with a few of them being at least good. That is 11 right there. Also, I don’t see the Beckham thing ending well. There really is little cap space until June of next year when JPP and Vermon can be cut and save 29 Mill. If we are trying to win we probably need to sign several June 1 cuts this year in addition to what happens in the draft. The math doesn’t add up well in several areas. The only way we have a better chance to win now is to maneuver in the draft . I don’t even want to touch the OBJ subject, but he could be traded for picks. I’m not even sure what teams would offer for a supremely talented but emotionally erratic player who wants a gazillion dollars at the WR position. It might not be as much as people think. Anyway, in some fashion picking up extra picks in the first couple of rounds would certainly help. I’m just not sure of the GM’s thinking except I’m pretty confidant he doesn’t want to pay a WR 20 mill or anything close to it a year. I don’t even think it is OBJ as the problem. I think he sees the use of resources better spent elsewhere .
I don't understand the whole win now thing  
Big Rick in FL : 3/17/2018 8:15 am : link
This isn't the NBA where teams rank. Every team is in win now mode and they draft for the future. They have a 2 time SB MVP at QB. Of course they are gonna try to win. They are trying to put a strong OL for Eli in 2018 and Rosen/Darnold in 2019 and beyond.
George from PA  
Big Rick in FL : 3/17/2018 8:17 am : link
You said it perfectly. Neither Gettleman or Shurmur have a hall pass. At least at the moment they don't. When they draft a QB next month they will have that hall pass. Adds another reason for them to draft a QB. As a GM & HC having/playing a young QB buys you time.
Now vs future is a bit of a false dichotomy  
idiotsavant : 3/17/2018 8:49 am : link
It's not as if you can find very good starting 25 or 26 year old left Tackles and so forth in free agency.

Furthermore, when building for the future you want a functioning system within which to develop young players.

So you do what you can.

Rookies won't learn as well or have as good outcomes in chaos or when things break down. Then, injuries mount when things are out of sorts.

So, it's both.
Take it from the horse's mouth  
robbieballs2003 : 3/17/2018 8:51 am : link
Gettleman said if he told ownership that thjs was going tk take a couple of years he wouldn't have gotten the job.
It's win now,  
old man : 3/17/2018 5:39 pm : link
Win even more in the future.
Can't sell the shirts and other NYG items if you arent winning.
This offseason is a win now, set up the future wins offseason(part 1). Next offseason is the win more now(part 2) win a championship in the short future
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