for the past 3+ years and Hart and Newhouse look to be basically getting ready for life after football. Fluker isn't going to get a ton of money and Jerry may yet be cut.
Richburg and Pugh are getting paid for potential and youth more than production. In another scheme, around better OL, maybe they reach it. Here it was too big of a risk to take.
To investing high draft picks in unknowns. That is the only way to explain it. No one on their right mind would have given Richburg or Pugh that amount of money based on what you see on Sundays.
with his comments about how good they will be when they sucked as a group. But, to be fair, he can pretty much play any position along the OL even center. There were some who thought he could be a center when coming out of the draft. When he was healthy he did play well.
It sounds like the Cardinals are banking on him being healthy which is a huge risk since he basically has never been healthy. I think Pugh can be a good piece on a great OL but I don't think he will ever be the top guy on a good OL.
Richburg? I like that he played through injuries and rarely missed time until this year but he has had one really good year out of 4.
What he said was that you used to be able to use a high first-round pick on an offensive lineman and be confident in the return (Boselli/Ogden/Pace, etc.). Now that is no longer the case due to the proliferation of spread offense in the college game.
So now, teams are overpaying for veteran OL so they don't have to waste resources on project offensive linemen. Pugh in particular was valuable because he can play multiple positions, so he got his.
Injuries took it to a bad place but mcadoo was the driving force. When the offense was healthy in 2016 it sucked when it was healthy in 2017 it sucked. It was scoring more points down the stretch of 2017 with the likes of darkwa and Engram and Lewis.
It most certainly is something that Flowers should pay attention Â
but a number of other teams have had the same problem. The result is that many teams are looking hard for offensive linemen and are willing to overpay. That's why I feel that the five or ten best ol in the draft will go earlier than most of us expect. I think there will be a run on ol in the middle and end of the first round.
RE: another way to look at it is they had the worst right side in football Â
for the past 3+ years and Hart and Newhouse look to be basically getting ready for life after football. Fluker isn't going to get a ton of money and Jerry may yet be cut.
Richburg and Pugh are getting paid for potential and youth more than production. In another scheme, around better OL, maybe they reach it. Here it was too big of a risk to take.
Forgot about Hart. Include him in the signings too. Bengals signed him.
Must be happy now that they get to face Pugh and Richburg twice a year.
The day will come very soon when no one starting on the OL was drafted or signed by Reese. At most it will be 2 OL this year (assuming the Giants go OG in the second round
Because of the proliferation of the spread, they're coming in greener and because of the new CBA, teams have less time to coach them up. It's a bad combination for OL play. There's less quality OL than every before, simple supply and demand takes over from there. I think we're just starting to see it, I would not be shocked to see OL getting 20m/yr before Solder's deal is up.
what seems like overpaying for O linemen is the market adjusting right before your eyes. Last year everyone said Whitworth was not worth what he got paid, nor was Okung, or Reiff, and many here did not want to pay what the Giants paid Solder, but that's what it takes to bring in experienced, quality O linemen, even ones with perhaps only a few years left in their careers.
Leveon Bell making 14 mill, and the next highest paid RB is 8 mill. RBs are pretty important, yet they are valued as disposable commodities. It's messed up, but that's how it is.
guys being driven 5 yards into the backfield. They were failed picks and part of the problem. They will not be missed.
Bullshit. How many times did you see a wr, TE or rb wide open on a pass pattern over the last two seasons? Really think that one over. How many times did a running play work out with relative ease? Again think it over.
The offense resembled one that was orchestrated by a corpse. Not once did a play fool the opposition. Not once. That’s coaching.
The 1995 giants scored more points than the 2017 giants. A bygone era with less offense and less scoring still catering to the defenses and a team led by Dave brown, Chris Calloway and Howard cross scored more points.
can understand. When healthy he seems be considered the best lineman on the Giants and he is versatile.
The Richburg signing surprised me. The line seemed to get pushed back in the middle whenever he was at center. Maybe it's the guys next to him. I guess we'll see. Eagle fans wanted Kelce gone for years. Now he dresses up and makes an incoherent speech and he is a "Philly Guy."
can understand. When healthy he seems be considered the best lineman on the Giants and he is versatile.
The Richburg signing surprised me. The line seemed to get pushed back in the middle whenever he was at center. Maybe it's the guys next to him. I guess we'll see. Eagle fans wanted Kelce gone for years. Now he dresses up and makes an incoherent speech and he is a "Philly Guy."
I read that Richburg was seen as the perfect C for a zone blocking scheme. With so many teams using that system, he was in high demand entering free agency.
I just can’t help but to remember how well we ran the ball when Mcadoo wasn’t calling plays.
Maybe it’s simply another mans trash is another mans treasure.
Richburg and Pugh are getting paid for potential and youth more than production. In another scheme, around better OL, maybe they reach it. Here it was too big of a risk to take.
Thus, any capable lineman that doesn't outright suck is getting paid this year.
It sounds like the Cardinals are banking on him being healthy which is a huge risk since he basically has never been healthy. I think Pugh can be a good piece on a great OL but I don't think he will ever be the top guy on a good OL.
Richburg? I like that he played through injuries and rarely missed time until this year but he has had one really good year out of 4.
So now, teams are overpaying for veteran OL so they don't have to waste resources on project offensive linemen. Pugh in particular was valuable because he can play multiple positions, so he got his.
Injuries took it to a bad place but mcadoo was the driving force. When the offense was healthy in 2016 it sucked when it was healthy in 2017 it sucked. It was scoring more points down the stretch of 2017 with the likes of darkwa and Engram and Lewis.
Richburg and Pugh are getting paid for potential and youth more than production. In another scheme, around better OL, maybe they reach it. Here it was too big of a risk to take.
Forgot about Hart. Include him in the signings too. Bengals signed him.
It's insane to me that mediocrity nets $40+ million.
I don't think the fans can support the ludicrous upward spending of the NFL for much longer. It's already having negative impacts.
The day will come very soon when no one starting on the OL was drafted or signed by Reese. At most it will be 2 OL this year (assuming the Giants go OG in the second round
However, I'm glad we're not gambling that his history will change.
Leveon Bell making 14 mill, and the next highest paid RB is 8 mill. RBs are pretty important, yet they are valued as disposable commodities. It's messed up, but that's how it is.
Bullshit. How many times did you see a wr, TE or rb wide open on a pass pattern over the last two seasons? Really think that one over. How many times did a running play work out with relative ease? Again think it over.
The offense resembled one that was orchestrated by a corpse. Not once did a play fool the opposition. Not once. That’s coaching.
The 1995 giants scored more points than the 2017 giants. A bygone era with less offense and less scoring still catering to the defenses and a team led by Dave brown, Chris Calloway and Howard cross scored more points.
Yeah it was all on the players. Sure it was.
The Richburg signing surprised me. The line seemed to get pushed back in the middle whenever he was at center. Maybe it's the guys next to him. I guess we'll see. Eagle fans wanted Kelce gone for years. Now he dresses up and makes an incoherent speech and he is a "Philly Guy."
The Richburg signing surprised me. The line seemed to get pushed back in the middle whenever he was at center. Maybe it's the guys next to him. I guess we'll see. Eagle fans wanted Kelce gone for years. Now he dresses up and makes an incoherent speech and he is a "Philly Guy."
I read that Richburg was seen as the perfect C for a zone blocking scheme. With so many teams using that system, he was in high demand entering free agency.